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Thread: The Way I see were jedi is going....

LordDraconis
Sat Oct 08, 2005 12:18 am
#14



Well yeah jedi scream about nerfs and oh how they are so much weaker then pre cu. Well yes they were in fact they were very powerfull pre cu very overpowered. However, cu was made tobalance the game and jedi as it was pre cu was very unbalancing. FRS is gonna be fix however it may not be what the jedi think its gonna be.... The way they see it is that they are Full temp padawans right nowandif FRS is fixed they are going to be stronger.However when FRS is fixed they are going to have to make Padawans weaker. Why? Because of "Balance".


That is what taking the devs so long if they put FRS back in the way it was before there goes balance out the door. The only way to go about this is to make what a full temp is now a jedi guardain or knight. Jedi Masters have every right to be stronger however if they just make jedi stronger and not weakerwe are going to haveto balance BH to deal with them, I'm not saying a bh should go toe to toe with jedi Masters but they should at least with a jedi knight or Guardain.


Rember jedi in this time period are the bad guys and should fear BH even when doing trails, I just hope Trails isn't too easy when it comes back or else we are going to have severs full of master jedi....



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bmill
Sat Oct 08, 2005 12:23 am
#15






GlargTheKelfn wrote:





Ulrek_Oden wrote:
My prediction in the not so distant future is the complete removal of 'forced' PvP...





i agree. and i can't wait for that day.

i seriously doubt the new frs will be pvp, as that is soooo easy to abuse, no matter how the system is set up. prob something along the lines of taking out hardcore new ai monsters & long (hopefully) cool quests.




There is nothing forced about PvP right now. That's why the GCW factional system WAS changed. To allow players to participate in their own way without having to worry about the possibilty of a SF "Elite" PvPer nailing them.


Jedi vs BH is NOT forced. You know when you get your Jedi that you can/will be attackable anytime, anywhere. By going down the Jedi's path you are in essence signing off that you understand the risks associated with the profession. You're argument that PvP is forced is baseless, since no one forced you to get a Jedi. You did that on your own.





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LordDraconis
Sat Oct 08, 2005 12:23 am
#16


Well thats the risk of being a jedi bh get to hunt you. Not saying that good or anything but thats the way the game works. You knew the risk when becoming one so its not as forced as you think.

Message Edited by LordDraconis on 10-07-2005 12:25 PM



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Ulrek_Oden
Sat Oct 08, 2005 12:26 am
#17



bmill wrote:


GlargTheKelfn wrote:


Ulrek_Oden wrote:
My prediction in the not so distant future is the complete removal of 'forced' PvP...



i agree. and i can't wait for that day.

i seriously doubt the new frs will be pvp, as that is soooo easy to abuse, no matter how the system is set up. prob something along the lines of taking out hardcore new ai monsters & long (hopefully) cool quests.

There is nothing forced about PvP right now. That's why the GCW factional system WAS changed. To allow players to participate in their own way without having to worry about the possibilty of a SF "Elite" PvPer nailing them.

Jedi vs BH is NOT forced. You know when you get your Jedi that you can/will be attackable anytime, anywhere. By going down the Jedi's path you are in essence signing off that you understand the risks associated with the profession. You're argument that PvP is forced is baseless, since no one forced you to get a Jedi. You did that on your own.






Regardless... that forced/accepted/assigned/ PvP... IMHO is going to go away.



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xakia
Sat Oct 08, 2005 12:41 am
#18

Eventually they will become only attractive to those who roleplay or new players. Prolly the way it should be anyways. Too much fuss over one profession.



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freedomwarrior
Sat Oct 08, 2005 12:43 am
#19






bmill wrote:





GlargTheKelfn wrote:





Ulrek_Oden wrote:
My prediction in the not so distant future is the complete removal of 'forced' PvP...





i agree. and i can't wait for that day.

i seriously doubt the new frs will be pvp, as that is soooo easy to abuse, no matter how the system is set up. prob something along the lines of taking out hardcore new ai monsters & long (hopefully) cool quests.




There is nothing forced about PvP right now. That's why the GCW factional system WAS changed. To allow players to participate in their own way without having to worry about the possibilty of a SF "Elite" PvPer nailing them.


Jedi vs BH is NOT forced. You know when you get your Jedi that you can/will be attackable anytime, anywhere. By going down the Jedi's path you are in essence signing off that you understand the risks associated with the profession. You're argument that PvP is forced is baseless, since no one forced you to get a Jedi. You did that on your own.








I am a jedi and I agree with you. I chose to be hunted. Heck when I log my jedi in, im actually looking for pvp. But as the other poster said, im afraid he is also right. I think soe is going to make it more carebearish and the jedi/bh mandated pvp is going away.


If it does, I fear for the game. I think the jedi/bh pvp is a fundamental part of the game, and quite frankly needed. Without it, the game will be another UO/EQ/EQ2 clone and that just isnt what this game was designed around.


But I will also say this to the original poster, Jedi have the risk and part of the risk involved the reward of being 1.5 stronger which as we all know, isnt there right now. We can argue for days on why you think it is, or why I think it isnt, but the fact is, as an old school jedi who has seen both good and bad changes to this game, im here to tell you, my rifleman/bh can own any jedi out there. Yes there needs to be a balance to the professions, but jedi was never meant to be 100% balanced. it was suppose to be lil eschewed as stated even by the devs and thats not happened. This is why most jedi hope the FRS will do what was originally stated by the devs.


And before you state I want an I win button, that is 100% false. I could care a lessifI lose. I lose some cloths and thats not a big deal because I have 1 of every crafter in game and can just make new ones. I expect to lose and do. My point is, if your promised something, you expect some semblance of what was promised.





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bmill
Sat Oct 08, 2005 12:47 am
#20






Ulrek_Oden wrote:





bmill wrote:





GlargTheKelfn wrote:





Ulrek_Oden wrote:
My prediction in the not so distant future is the complete removal of 'forced' PvP...





i agree. and i can't wait for that day.

i seriously doubt the new frs will be pvp, as that is soooo easy to abuse, no matter how the system is set up. prob something along the lines of taking out hardcore new ai monsters & long (hopefully) cool quests.




There is nothing forced about PvP right now. That's why the GCW factional system WAS changed. To allow players to participate in their own way without having to worry about the possibilty of a SF "Elite" PvPer nailing them.


Jedi vs BH is NOT forced. You know when you get your Jedi that you can/will be attackable anytime, anywhere. By going down the Jedi's path you are in essence signing off that you understand the risks associated with the profession. You're argument that PvP is forced is baseless, since no one forced you to get a Jedi. You did that on your own.









Regardless... that forced/accepted/assigned/ PvP... IMHO is going to go away.




I don't agree. The developers are adding MORE PvP with the Ranger and Smuggler revamps. The rumor mill is that we will be removed from the equation and only Rangers will be able to engage the smugglers on missions. Seems like it's paving the way for more interaction between the different classes, and I like it!



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