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Thread: Yet another jedi abusing the TEF
daz007 wrote:
"Where are you going? You afraid?"
"I only went inside to regen my force"
priceless.
Quoted for great justice !!
tuffness55 wrote:
it sucks but they game lets him do it. Woudln't you rather live and save a lot of grinding time? Know its a real pain for bh thats the way it goes
DiggyNO wrote:
MasterSad wrote:
Where is the TEF abusing??? He might have been abusing private building but not the TEF (and there is no such thing after the CU). Yet you have chosen wrong place to attacj and crying for exploiting...Message Edited by MasterSad on 06-20-2005 01:35 PM
There's no "wrong place to attack", troll. Houses can be planted almost anywhere and Jedi - conviniently - grind where they can place these (and of course other places where they can get bugged out of attackability).Jedi should suffer incap if they move more than 100m away from a bounty hunter who hasengaged combatwith them, this pacifism sucks.
#1 as to the Jedi grinding where they can move to a place where you lose "attackability" The spot is a good place to grind. Those who use the bridge to get out of your LS are using an exploit so you should report em. But that being said the spot is a good spot for xp, thats why Jedi grind there. Not because they can convieniently hide from you. In addition to that I have seen more BH use this spot than the Jedi they come for. 1st on the way in they stop there to heal up and get everything in order. Nevermind the 5 mobs on em. Not too mention that every BH that comes down to get names stand in that exact spot to do it. In addition to that are the numerous BH who use the falling off the trail exploit to even get to the spot. So dont go pointing fingers cause both sides are guilty, and both sides have those who are not guilty.
#2 "jedi should suffer incap if they move more than 100m away from the bounty hunter who has engaged combat with them".....really? you actually said this? If a Jedi runs (means he doesn't want to indulge you that day) you need to lay down some roots and movement modifiers, not cry that jedi should have to stay and fight you. Your job is the hunter. You hunt, sometimes the prey dies, sometimes they get away. Now if they are using the house exploit (the one where they actually attack you in combat prior to entry) then you have a legitimate beef. If they get away from you with out exploiting then you need to stalk better.
Have a nice day.
Message Edited by Buddhabro on 06-20-2005 06:37 AM
Dakaar_Halycon wrote:
Kozzywozzy wrote:
hmm, all jedi's use this exploit should they need to and if they get the chance..if i was to post the names of all the jeds who done that to me the forum would probably crash...i blame soe as much as the actual jeds, they fix wot they wanna and leave wotever suits them..i bet they nerf been able group before they fix that tef..just makes me hunt even more persistantley though..
I remain sickened by the generalization that occurs on both sides of this battle. Not all Jedi use houses, just like not all bh use the duel exploit. My jedi has one house out in the middle of nowhere on tatooine. I have stood my ground and fought every time, lost xp and won respect.
You are the 1 in 4 Jedi that do so. Check my other thread for the screenies.
It's cool with me though. I am convinced that one day this issue will be fixed. It may not effect THIS generation of Jedi. However, when it is fixed, it will catch a generation of grinding Jedi right in the middle of the path to Jedi Knight....and when it does, it's going to be sweet. Imagine that first week when Jedi discover one by one that they cannot get in a house after attacking a BH. I will be laughing so hard as Jedi start clawing and scratching at their doors, trying to get inside. I wonder how many of them will submit a ticket about an bug or an exploit?
The fact is, Jedi are being nerfed...but it's slow. The Devs have given Jedi a trade off. There is no longer ANY XP loss, except for a BH DB. This doesn't mean much to fully templated Jedi, and it will be interesting to see how FRS is handled once implemented. Nonetheless, with the new action cost, and soon to be mind cost for healing, it makes even ME wonder, "What the hell is the Force used for"? Bottom line..yeah I think I heard that the Devs are increasing Saber damage by 25%, but in the end, with all the trade offs, to take one thing, the Jedi must give something else up. The only reason I still play is because I still have faith that one day....someday, things will be balanced.
Tucheck wrote:
Dakaar_Halycon wrote:
Kozzywozzy wrote:
hmm, all jedi's use this exploit should they need to and if they get the chance..if i was to post the names of all the jeds who done that to me the forum would probably crash...
i blame soe as much as the actual jeds, they fix wot they wanna and leave wotever suits them..i bet they nerf been able group before they fix that tef..just makes me hunt even more persistantley though..
I remain sickened by the generalization that occurs on both sides of this battle. Not all Jedi use houses, just like not all bh use the duel exploit. My jedi has one house out in the middle of nowhere on tatooine. I have stood my ground and fought every time, lost xp and won respect.
You are the 1 in 4 Jedi that do so. Check my other thread for the screenies.
It's cool with me though. I am convinced that one day this issue will be fixed. It may not effect THIS generation of Jedi. However, when it is fixed, it will catch a generation of grinding Jedi right in the middle of the path to Jedi Knight....and when it does, it's going to be sweet. Imagine that first week when Jedi discover one by one that they cannot get in a house after attacking a BH. I will be laughing so hard as Jedi start clawing and scratching at their doors, trying to get inside. I wonder how many of them will submit a ticket about an bug or an exploit?
The fact is, Jedi are being nerfed...but it's slow. The Devs have given Jedi a trade off. There is no longer ANY XP loss, except for a BH DB. This doesn't mean much to fully templated Jedi, and it will be interesting to see how FRS is handled once implemented. Nonetheless, with the new action cost, and soon to be mind cost for healing, it makes even ME wonder, "What the hell is the Force used for"? Bottom line..yeah I think I heard that the Devs are increasing Saber damage by 25%, but in the end, with all the trade offs, to take one thing, the Jedi must give something else up. The only reason I still play is because I still have faith that one day....someday, things will be balanced.
So we have a 10 minute timeout after cloning.
They are refering to the elemental damage fix I beleive. It is based off 25% of our base damage. Every elemental weapon is supose to have this fix.
Jedi has been nerfed so much I don't even like playing it anymore really. Only for special occasions. I'm usually on one of my other characters. In PvE, I don't have the force duration nor damage output on my jedi to kill anything worth my time, where my rifleman character can solo every melee mob from Krayt Dragon Grands to Dark Jedi Masters without a sweat. In PvP, my jedi just gets drained to death, not much fun there either, while my MBH/MCM can out heal my jedi, dish out more damage, state the crap out of someone, and not be limited toa fewminutes of fighting from having a forcebar.
DiggyNO wrote:
MasterSad wrote:
Where is the TEF abusing??? He might have been abusing private building but not the TEF (and there is no such thing after the CU). Yet you have chosen wrong place to attacj and crying for exploiting...Message Edited by MasterSad on 06-20-2005 01:35 PM
There's no "wrong place to attack", troll. Houses can be planted almost anywhere and Jedi - conviniently - grind where they can place these (and of course other places where they can get bugged out of attackability).Jedi should suffer incap if they move more than 100m away from a bounty hunter who has engaged combat with them, this pacifism sucks.
Stop calling people trolls, first read the post, he was in the city of the jedi. That's what I mean. And that is why he attacked in the wrong place. It does not mean I don't agree that being able to enter a house while in combat is good. I am not saying placing houses while i combat is good also. And I never did it.
Message Edited by MasterSad on 06-20-2005 05:36 PM
Unless your Jedi is only novice healer, you are either mistaken ortelling a liethere. Jedi can outheal any other profession in the game by a massive degree, period.
CrashNgoBoom wrote:
Tucheck wrote:
Dakaar_Halycon wrote:
Kozzywozzy wrote:
hmm, all jedi's use this exploit should they need to and if they get the chance..if i was to post the names of all the jeds who done that to me the forum would probably crash...
i blame soe as much as the actual jeds, they fix wot they wanna and leave wotever suits them..i bet they nerf been able group before they fix that tef..just makes me hunt even more persistantley though..
I remain sickened by the generalization that occurs on both sides of this battle. Not all Jedi use houses, just like not all bh use the duel exploit. My jedi has one house out in the middle of nowhere on tatooine. I have stood my ground and fought every time, lost xp and won respect.
You are the 1 in 4 Jedi that do so. Check my other thread for the screenies.
It's cool with me though. I am convinced that one day this issue will be fixed. It may not effect THIS generation of Jedi. However, when it is fixed, it will catch a generation of grinding Jedi right in the middle of the path to Jedi Knight....and when it does, it's going to be sweet. Imagine that first week when Jedi discover one by one that they cannot get in a house after attacking a BH. I will be laughing so hard as Jedi start clawing and scratching at their doors, trying to get inside. I wonder how many of them will submit a ticket about an bug or an exploit?
The fact is, Jedi are being nerfed...but it's slow. The Devs have given Jedi a trade off. There is no longer ANY XP loss, except for a BH DB. This doesn't mean much to fully templated Jedi, and it will be interesting to see how FRS is handled once implemented. Nonetheless, with the new action cost, and soon to be mind cost for healing, it makes even ME wonder, "What the hell is the Force used for"? Bottom line..yeah I think I heard that the Devs are increasing Saber damage by 25%, but in the end, with all the trade offs, to take one thing, the Jedi must give something else up. The only reason I still play is because I still have faith that one day....someday, things will be balanced.
So we have a 10 minute timeout after cloning.
They are refering to the elemental damage fix I beleive. It is based off 25% of our base damage. Every elemental weapon is supose to have this fix.
Jedi has been nerfed so much I don't even like playing it anymore really. Only for special occasions. I'm usually on one of my other characters. In PvE, I don't have the force duration nor damage output on my jedi to kill anything worth my time, where my rifleman character can solo every melee mob from Krayt Dragon Grands to Dark Jedi Masters without a sweat. In PvP, my jedi just gets drained to death, not much fun there either, while my MBH/MCM can out heal my jedi, dish out more damage, state the crap out of someone, and not be limited toa fewminutes of fighting from having a forcebar.
Corvett wrote:
"Another fine whineing Bh thread about Jedi. Stay tuned later in the day when we add several more on why the Bh can't just walk up and kill their mark with ease. Back to you Tom."
Actually, a good stim D and rubie bile or how ever it is spelled can out heal jedi. The only jedi this cant out heal is either master healers or some with at least teir 4 in healing.
Unless your Jedi is only novice healer, you are either mistaken ortelling a liethere. Jedi can outheal any other profession in the game by a massive degree, period.
, while my MBH/MCM can out heal my jedi, dish out more damage, state the crap out of someone, and not be limited toa fewminutes of fighting from having a forcebar.
Message Edited by KainMalice on 06-20-2005 09:41 AM
ErveStarr wrote:
Unless your Jedi is only novice healer, you are either mistaken ortelling a liethere. Jedi can outheal any other profession in the game by a massive degree, period.
I'm seriously not trying to flame, but I'm getting sick off all these people who don't know how to fight and cry when they lose. Yes, it is possible for a non-jedi to spam 1200 point heals without the use of stims. If you play with a templet that can't do this then it's your problem. A jedi has to make room for it in his templet, if you want the same ability, then you have to do the same. And while these aren't the 1500 heals a jedi can do, they can be done without the draining a critical pool and can easily be boosted beyond1500 with enhancers.
