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Thread: Question to all the Bounty Hunters.
It is truely funny how some (not all) Jedi think because they are jedi that everyone on your faction should bend over and worship the ground they walk on, lets think about the timeline, some time before the current events of this game, the Jedi Order was labeled corrupt and an enemy of the Republic, now the Empire. Vader and the Emperor dont claim to be Jedi, they are Sith. SO you have people all over the galaxy that, probably, are a little negative towards anyone claiming ot be jedi, can you blame them? So this leaves room for rebels that dont want jedi to return, Imperials, well they might feel the same, maybe even worse.
This makes sense to me both on an RP level and a basic game play level, SOE says if you are too visible you will have a mark placed on your head, on that terminal you crimes are listed, it is my job to bring you to justice, if SOE gave me the option to capture after an incap, maybe I would take that option with same faction, but they dont, so in order to complete my mission I have to try and kill you.
Makes perfect sense to me.
As for the whole BH/jedi don't kill your allies thing... Well, it's a totally bumbled game setup to begin with. Rebel shouldn't even allow BHs, and imps shouldn't be able to take rebel given missions. However, it DOES make sense for an imp bh to take an imp target.. if the imps give the mission, they are unhappy with the mark. And the Imps employed bounty hunters frequently. Many of them were fully allied to the imperial army. The rebels didn't employ them, since they didn't really have to funds to outbid the empire. There was nothing stopping the BH from going to the empire and getting a much larger sum for the head of the rebel giving them the mark.
From an RP perspective, my character doesn't consider anyone as a "Jedi". They're all just force-witches, subversives, and criminals. He fought REAL Jedi in the Clone Wars on the Separatist side (not all separatist planets fielded droid armies) and has never forgiven the Jedi that lead the clone forces thatconquered his world. Although he's sworn off politics and fighting for any cause other than himself, he cooperates with Imperial forces for his own benefit.
edit: When publish 20 comes out, I will hunt whatever faction I feel like at the time.
Message Edited by DelsteReden on 07-18-2005 03:44 PM
DelsteReden wrote:
I kill same faction because a true bounty hunter knows no faction. I'm a rebel because anyone deserves the right to attack the galactic authority. Blame SOE for not putting in a criminal faction.
edit: When publish 20 comes out, I will hunt whatever faction I feel like at the time.Message Edited by DelsteReden on 07-18-2005 03:44 PM
They did but you really cant do anything with it. I think it would be k-rad to get BH missions that are created by Jabba or something!
Here is my idea of how the BH system should have been.
3 factions(Imps, Rebs, Hutts)
Each side could take jedi missions and each side could also make missions for the other factions. In other words: Billy Bob has racked up to many FP by hunting imps so no he is on an imp terminal. Or Willie has killed way to many smugglers or hutt aligned NPCs so now he is on Jabbas terminal. Pretty simple idea. That is what I would love to see happen with BH. Fat chance of that ever happening though.
Darthgrux wrote:Here are 2 questions to all the Rebel and Imperial bounty hunters who hunt their
own faction jedi.
-Why do you join a faction, then hunt and kill your allies?
-Also, when Pub. 20 comes out and you get to see what faction a jedi is from, do you still plan on kill your allies because they are jedi?
I am a BH/jedi and I don’t see the point in killing your own faction, shouldn't imps help imps and rebs help rebs?.
Thank you to all that answer.
- The Empire has hired me to work for them, i do whatever Imperial Command tells me to, Destroy a Rebel city, Capture Enemy Flag ships, and kill all Jedi, regardless of faction.
- I will take the highest payout mission available. Rebel or Imperial, it do not matter to me.
Sionesk wrote:
There is nothing saying there are only ever 2 sith.... Just that they come in twos, a master, and an apprentice. How else would you explain the Sith Wars thousands of years prior? It's basically the same setup as the jedi, a master, and an apprentice. The only sith we KNOW of for this time period are Emp and Vader, but it isn't because there is some law or rule.. it's because the sith were thought to be wiped out in the sith wars. A sith is kill on sight, and once they are discovered, and shown to BE a sith, the whole Jedi collective would have gone after them. Now, with the Jedi collective practically wiped out, there is really nothing stopping the emp from allowing other sith to come out of hiding, or starting them up again.
As for the whole BH/jedi don't kill your allies thing... Well, it's a totally bumbled game setup to begin with. Rebel shouldn't even allow BHs, and imps shouldn't be able to take rebel given missions. However, it DOES make sense for an imp bh to take an imp target.. if the imps give the mission, they are unhappy with the mark. And the Imps employed bounty hunters frequently. Many of them were fully allied to the imperial army. The rebels didn't employ them, since they didn't really have to funds to outbid the empire. There was nothing stopping the BH from going to the empire and getting a much larger sum for the head of the rebel giving them the mark.
Well this will take this a little further off target, and let me first say I haven't read all the stuff on the Sith wars, but from what I understand, the 2 Sith at one time came about due to the Sith wars, that it was too dangerous to have hundreds of Sith because sooner or later they would turn on each other...there is how you got the Sith wars(I think).
So now you have a Master and an Apprentice, and if I understood EP 1-3, the Sith teachings were passed on from the times of the Sith Wars, to the Emperor, passed on from Master to Student. You can sort of draw a comparison with the Jedi in EP 4-6, the only Jedi left was Yoda (that we know of) after Obi Wan was killed, so even if someone claimed to be Jedi, they really were not, unless they were taught by a Jedi Master, the only one left being Yoda, After Yoda died, Luke was he last Jedi, of course, you could argue how complete his training was.
Ok so say the Emperor was a true student of the Sith, a direct decended of the teachings of the original Sith, so the only other possible sith could only be taught by him, and passed on by him ( of course in the SW universe you could say I was taught by a lost sith lord on a far away planet) but for the sake of argument lets say they only ones that exsist are the Emperor and now Vader (in our timeline) SO what does that leave us? Dark and light Force weilders, now I have been to the village but nothing further, I dont know if after you hit jedi if you learn skills from a "jedi master" but if you take things on the info above, no one can be either Sith or true Jedi.
BUT
There is always a but, if you continue to read further into the EU, you have Luke, continuing his own training thru history, holocrons and such, so now you have the possible argument of, ok I am Force Sensitive and I researched the ways of the Sith, so I am Sith, and the same with Jedi. So now we are on a no win loop, and my fingers hurt from typing so much
SO what am I trying to say, chances are there wouldn't be this many Jedi (dark or light) without the masters to support them, based on the basic rules set by the SW Universe, but then this is SOE's rendition of SW, it tends to follow a different path.
I do believe tho that no the Emperor would not allow a ton of Sith to pop up, yes he may have been positioning a replacement for Vader, as Vader I am sure was doing himself as well (ie Luke, or Mara Jade) But to have a ton of Sith again, no that would have lead to their down fall the same way as during the Sith Wars, and the Emperor wasn't that stupid, of course...this is just my humble opinion
The Emporer and vader would kill any jedi. If a jedi turned up highly powerfull the emoperer would try and recruit the newand get rid of the old.
"always two there are, a master and apprentice, no more no less"
The post above puts it best, an army of sith would not be ideal for the emporers rule. All sith hunger more power.
Sith often have double crossedeach other, they certainly weren't the "we are all in the same club" kind of chaps. they are after all at one with the dark side of the force which especially means the anti "why can't we be friends" point of view.
Palpatine could have turned more jedi over to his cause, there must have been more corrupt than just anakin, in episode 2 yoda and mace talk of ego over confident jedi. But the emporer knowing how powerfull vader was recruited him, and in time the way things panne dout he planned to kill vader and let luke take his place. Vader thought that of the emporer.
remember in episode 3 during that amazing scene, palpatine talks of a pupil of the dark side of the force killing his master while he slept,that was of course himself he was speaking of, and the look of smug pride in his face gives you the true chilling realisationof just how much a "Sith team player" the emporer is. Never mind mire dark jedi.
Palpatine let Dooku die for the great scheme of things. dooku tried to convert ben to join him. AlsoI mean how many imp staff does vader go through in the movies and books, what you think he'd be more polite to a sith, who undoubtably would most certainly start trying to hatch plansof overthrow himself.
It's painfully apparent that was the point of view of the emporer in movie and book, i'm a starwars fan. I pay to play this game to enjoy someform of the "play the greatest starwars saga ever told yours" yaddy yadda.
Therefore I am not just a MBH butan imperial assassin.
"Execute order 66!".
And I think, justifyably so, hunting jedi dark, light, or somewhereinbetween...all the same to me, is not onlyA ok, but trueand fitting for starwars lore.
NO where in the game does it forbid you hunting your ownfaction, there fore not hunting same faction are your rules, not the games,NOT MINE.
I will of course leave friends alone of course 
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Message Edited by StylerNaku on 07-18-2005 03:19 PM
Sionesk wrote:
There is nothing saying there are only ever 2 sith.... Just that they come in twos, a master, and an apprentice. How else would you explain the Sith Wars thousands of years prior? It's basically the same setup as the jedi, a master, and an apprentice. The only sith we KNOW of for this time period are Emp and Vader, but it isn't because there is some law or rule.. it's because the sith were thought to be wiped out in the sith wars. A sith is kill on sight, and once they are discovered, and shown to BE a sith, the whole Jedi collective would have gone after them. Now, with the Jedi collective practically wiped out, there is really nothing stopping the emp from allowing other sith to come out of hiding, or starting them up again.
As for the whole BH/jedi don't kill your allies thing... Well, it's a totally bumbled game setup to begin with. Rebel shouldn't even allow BHs, and imps shouldn't be able to take rebel given missions. However, it DOES make sense for an imp bh to take an imp target.. if the imps give the mission, they are unhappy with the mark. And the Imps employed bounty hunters frequently. Many of them were fully allied to the imperial army. The rebels didn't employ them, since they didn't really have to funds to outbid the empire. There was nothing stopping the BH from going to the empire and getting a much larger sum for the head of the rebel giving them the mark.
You are incorrect. There is a rule regarding the Sith's numbers. The other poster that pointed out about the Ancient Sith War was pretty much right on the money. There are 2 and only 2 at any given time since that war. Period. Darth Plagueis/Darth Sidious, Darth Sidious/Darth Maul, Darth Sidious/Darth Tyrannus, Darth Sidious/Darth Vader. Before Plagueis, I cannot speak-for as there isn't any documentation regarding the Sith between their defeat by the Jedi and Darth Sidious rise to power. There might be some obscure sourcebook out there that might even be endorsed by Lucas regarding this ancient religion, but if you read it, you will get the same answer: There are only 2 Sith Lords at any given time.
Also, NOJedi shouldbe allowed to join the Empire. The Emperor is a Sith, his pupil isa Sith. Their views on the use of the force vary greatly with the teachings of the Jedi. Jedi during the time period of the game are outlaws to the Empire per order 66 at the end of the Clone Wars. The whole entire Clone Wars were nothing but a ruse to weaken the Jedi and cause their downfall to Palpatine...a Sith Lord.....so that he could usher in a new Galactic Empire ruled under the teachings of the Sith, not the Jedi.
Answer to question from the OP: If I were Imperial I would kill all Jedi, Rebel or Imp. If I were Rebel I would kill all Imperial Jedi. Since I am neither Rebel nor Imperial, I kill all of em I can so I don't have to get involved in ethical bounty hunter discussions such as these...
Seloh Wua
I will say rebel BH's killing light jedi, if they want to roleplay rebel, is indeed a massive contradiction though, and with that there is indeed a point.