Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: Template ?
bigjeff5
Wed Aug 25, 2004 8:15 pm
#14
Best template as I see it, for an all around BH, is Master BH/Master Carbineer, novice medic.
With +200 accuracy and +115 speed, basically all your carbines should hit the speed cap and should shoot through most defenses. The carbineer also gives 105 counterattack, which is a nice little defense bonuse for the low defense BH. Other defenses are still horribly low, but I think focusing on attack is more effective.
Novice medic is obvious, and is a good use for those few extra points after mastering the two other professions.
Pistols would have an advantage in defenses, but they are much weaker on attack, and they are much more limited in PvE than the Carbineer is.
From what I've read about killing jedi, your only chance 1-1 is surprising them and finishing them off quickly. As a BH you won't last long enough to wear their force power down enough to kill them. You have to all but kill a Jedi many times in order for them to use up their force power and actually be killable. So the only way it will work is if you get them down and kill them before they can get back up and heal themselves.
The only way you are doing that is with the high damage and high speed of this combo as far as I can tell.
Thoughts?
With +200 accuracy and +115 speed, basically all your carbines should hit the speed cap and should shoot through most defenses. The carbineer also gives 105 counterattack, which is a nice little defense bonuse for the low defense BH. Other defenses are still horribly low, but I think focusing on attack is more effective.
Novice medic is obvious, and is a good use for those few extra points after mastering the two other professions.
Pistols would have an advantage in defenses, but they are much weaker on attack, and they are much more limited in PvE than the Carbineer is.
From what I've read about killing jedi, your only chance 1-1 is surprising them and finishing them off quickly. As a BH you won't last long enough to wear their force power down enough to kill them. You have to all but kill a Jedi many times in order for them to use up their force power and actually be killable. So the only way it will work is if you get them down and kill them before they can get back up and heal themselves.
The only way you are doing that is with the high damage and high speed of this combo as far as I can tell.
Thoughts?
TK-132
Wed Aug 25, 2004 11:18 pm
#15
i think this is a good temp its on my bloodfin template.
MBH/Pistoleer 0044/carbineer 0400/tari kasi 0003
MBH/Pistoleer 0044/carbineer 0400/tari kasi 0003
bigjeff5
Sun Aug 29, 2004 12:15 pm
#16
I guess what I really wonder about is how much accuracy affects LS block. I know the high accuracy will tear through the state and ranged defenses, but if saber block is not affected by accuracy then you don't need more than 165, which would potentially make pistoleer the superior support profession by far.
I have heard though, that when you get around the +300 accuracy mark saber block starts to decrease in effectiveness. If that is so, then the best template might be Master carbines with deady and Citrus Snow Cake, plus novice brawler and 5 +15 intimidate/warcry BE clothes.
Warcry should be undefendable with the tissues, which would stop all attacks while you hit your pretty much undefendable intimidate, from there you can set up your next attacks before breaking Warcry. Gotta be fast though, novice brawler warcry only lasts 10 seconds, and if you accidentally attack him he can fight back. So, if your first attack after he is warcryed and intimidated is a stun attack, and assuming 300'ish accuracy takes him from 85% saber block to 65% saber block as has been reported, his damage output drops by 75%, and assuming PSG's work as intended that can drop the damage by another 50% or more, if you have a good one.
All this means you should survive long enough to dizzy/KD him, and hopefully you were smart and had a droid prepaired and it can then blow the dang guy up.
My theory anyway.
If the Accuracy deal affecting saber block isn't true, then you go with Pistoleer instead of Carbineer, for the vastly higher defenses, and with dodge food and accuracy food and Deadeye, you should last long enough to do the same thing, kill da Jedi
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Of course, 100% of this is untested by me, as I'm not even a BH yet.
I have heard though, that when you get around the +300 accuracy mark saber block starts to decrease in effectiveness. If that is so, then the best template might be Master carbines with deady and Citrus Snow Cake, plus novice brawler and 5 +15 intimidate/warcry BE clothes.
Warcry should be undefendable with the tissues, which would stop all attacks while you hit your pretty much undefendable intimidate, from there you can set up your next attacks before breaking Warcry. Gotta be fast though, novice brawler warcry only lasts 10 seconds, and if you accidentally attack him he can fight back. So, if your first attack after he is warcryed and intimidated is a stun attack, and assuming 300'ish accuracy takes him from 85% saber block to 65% saber block as has been reported, his damage output drops by 75%, and assuming PSG's work as intended that can drop the damage by another 50% or more, if you have a good one.
All this means you should survive long enough to dizzy/KD him, and hopefully you were smart and had a droid prepaired and it can then blow the dang guy up.
My theory anyway.
If the Accuracy deal affecting saber block isn't true, then you go with Pistoleer instead of Carbineer, for the vastly higher defenses, and with dodge food and accuracy food and Deadeye, you should last long enough to do the same thing, kill da Jedi
Of course, 100% of this is untested by me, as I'm not even a BH yet.
dragon28731
Tue Mar 01, 2005 8:29 pm
#17
Hey guys what do you think of this, MLS MPowers and 4xx4 healing. The MLS for obvious reasons, the Master powers because its so damn cool. Plus everyone says its horrible in pvp but i see people running around doing 2k damage a hit from lightning in pvp. And then the healing for healin lol. What do you guys think of this or got any suggestions for it?
Osgiliath_
Tue Mar 01, 2005 8:35 pm
#18
If you wanna just PvE. tha'ts a good template. wouldn't recommend it for PvP
Sudasinio
Tue Mar 01, 2005 8:51 pm
#20
You should do what you think is going to be fun. Just aslong as you dont get novice brawler.
Dark_knight6
Tue Mar 01, 2005 9:12 pm
#21
This template is not a template you should go around taking on multiple people by yourself. It's more geared for 1v1 duels and adding some punch to a group.
Sudasinio
Tue Mar 01, 2005 9:26 pm
#22
Dark_knight6 wrote:
This template is not a template you should go around taking on multiple people by yourself. It's more geared for 1v1 duels and adding some punch to a group.
Any Jedi template shouldnt be based 1vs1. Master powers is great in PvP. If I could re-roll my template I would do something different then master enhance master saber 4004 healing. Its kinda boring, but I dont die as often thats what makes it fun for me.
Dark_knight6
Tue Mar 01, 2005 9:49 pm
#23
Sudasinio wrote:
Dark_knight6 wrote:
This template is not a template you should go around taking on multiple people by yourself. It's more geared for 1v1 duels and adding some punch to a group.
Any Jedi template shouldnt be based 1vs1. Master powers is great in PvP. If I could re-roll my template I would do something different then master enhance master saber 4004 healing. Its kinda boring, but I dont die as often thats what makes it fun for me.
Lol, some of us don't really plan on doing the frs. Most pvp i do is just duels with friends, i go overt when there's a big battle that sounds fun.
Fr3 sounds pretty b!tchin though lol.
mesan
Sun May 29, 2005 1:45 pm
#24
Well, I would say at least healer 3000 for improved infusion, at least 2 lines from defender with 1 of them being the improved aura line xx4x, some enhancer 3003 at least for force run 1, suppression, improved speed, and drain force. As for sabers, I favour 0404 for armour break, and improved saber throw (not to mention saber crafting). This is just a rough guide as its really down to personal preference and player style. I know people who swear by MLS but I chose to spend my skill points on other things.
halquim
Mon May 30, 2005 12:58 am
#25
the fourms search is not working so if this was a post all ready sorry, i have heared a lot of differant template idea's and cu is out now as well.i was told by every one to get master defender but that is the only 1 that remains the same ive been told master lightsabers is not worth it by some and i only need novice healer can you guys let me no some template idea's im looking for a pvp template thanks