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Thread: Solo Jedi....HOW! Crazy 3 BH attack fails!

Dallow
Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:56 pm
#14






Frag99 wrote:





Bladius wrote:


This and similar experiences that have all fallen in the Jedi's favor is why I won't waste my time anymore with Jedi bounties. I don't care to have the chance to win a fight 10% of the time.


Wasting 90% of my time and credits is not fun. It's great they are the Alpha class and supposedly we are the semi Alpha class (Advanced Tank is the description of our class) that can fight them, but I am failing to see the fun and anything resembling an equal fight between the two classes. Lets not discuss people who have lame Jedi or BH templates, those wins/losses are due to poor templating and some skill.


I am beginning to think 90% of the BH's claiming they are killing Jedi are full of sh!t. Sure if you bide your time and wait for that one lucky moment, AFK, LD, incapped by creature or another player you get a kill..whoohoo..fun.


I have more fun stabbing myself in the eye...which hunting NPC's is like anyways.


Till the combat system's current exploits, over powered sabers, force powers that ignore armor and hybrid Jediare adjusted somehow..it's a waste of time.


The only people who even have a chance are those that have put 1+ yearsofinvestments in their BH weapons, SEAs and have a near unlimited bank account to afford the food, vehicles, droids, weaponsand armor (that last all of5-6fights).


I have yet to come across a Jedi thatis not fully template (whether full Jedi orintentional hybrid using RIS armor andusing LS or some type of melee weapon)that doesn't run (somehow I have only come across one Paddie, the rest were all Knights and Masters). Of course the ones that stay and fight, eventually win through attrition (FR, cloak, recharge, return to fight) or get you with KD bug and rip you up inone minute or less.



Message Edited by Bladius on 09-23-2005 03:41 PM




Bladius, I am thinking you are probably right. I don't see how a non-CM can kill1 vs. 1. Even a CM ....if the jedi doesn't want to fight, its not like a BH/CM can pour out enough damage to keep them from running. I am not going to quit trying just yet, but this experience could not be termed anything more then negative . Pre CU my wife and I would hunt with a guildie and go after knights together. My guildie had an uber 1000+ damage looted laster rifle. I was the tank. I would go in with a gafi and dizzy them and try to posture down then he and my wife would blaze away with the rifle and a carbine. We had 7 kills and only2 defeats....it was a blast trying to kill the Knights before they could FR2. Everyone complained then about the Jedi being overpowered, but it was great fun taking on Knights. The current setup seems almost futile...if this is what fighting a Master Defender is like, I hope I don't run into another one lol....I won't be holding my breath on that one.


Rockefeller





Trust me, non-CM templates can kill full templated jedi. If the jedi has a post-CU saber you can take them 1 on 1 without the need to surprise them. Sometimes, it isn't easy, but it can be done. If he is a MDEF, you may end up fighting for a very long time without either of youdying though. If he has a pre-CU saber, you will die unless you surprise him. The key to remember is you get first strike. Always try to hit them when it's to your advantage.



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Eleutherios
Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:17 pm
#15






InspGadgt wrote:
I was there with Frag...it was quite a fight to watch. Unfortunately I'm not Master BH yet so I did my best to help spot for my guildies when the Jedi was making a run for shore. Anyway the lowest the 3 of them ever got the Jedi was to half health and half mind...at that point we were all thinking he was toast but that's when he found water and was able to stay out of range long enough to regen everything. Combat droids were used but really didn't help too much because he easily out swam them and they were only doing abotu 40pts damage to him.





Still, you can't heal in water...



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InspGadgt
Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:34 pm
#16






Eleutherios wrote:





InspGadgt wrote:
I was there with Frag...it was quite a fight to watch. Unfortunately I'm not Master BH yet so I did my best to help spot for my guildies when the Jedi was making a run for shore. Anyway the lowest the 3 of them ever got the Jedi was to half health and half mind...at that point we were all thinking he was toast but that's when he found water and was able to stay out of range long enough to regen everything. Combat droids were used but really didn't help too much because he easily out swam them and they were only doing abotu 40pts damage to him.





Still, you can't heal in water...





This guy was...reguardless if you can or cannot you can still regenerate in water.



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Eleutherios
Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:35 pm
#17






InspGadgt wrote:





Eleutherios wrote:





InspGadgt wrote:
I was there with Frag...it was quite a fight to watch. Unfortunately I'm not Master BH yet so I did my best to help spot for my guildies when the Jedi was making a run for shore. Anyway the lowest the 3 of them ever got the Jedi was to half health and half mind...at that point we were all thinking he was toast but that's when he found water and was able to stay out of range long enough to regen everything. Combat droids were used but really didn't help too much because he easily out swam them and they were only doing abotu 40pts damage to him.





Still, you can't heal in water...





This guy was...reguardless if you can or cannot you can still regenerate in water.





Health regen is so pitiful that it doesn't really make a difference. Also, they have a penalty to health regen if they're usingBooster Blue, which is definitely the best spice if you intend to heal during PvP.



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KenzoDarkron
Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:38 pm
#18



Eleutherios wrote:


InspGadgt wrote:
I was there with Frag...it was quite a fight to watch. Unfortunately I'm not Master BH yet so I did my best to help spot for my guildies when the Jedi was making a run for shore. Anyway the lowest the 3 of them ever got the Jedi was to half health and half mind...at that point we were all thinking he was toast but that's when he found water and was able to stay out of range long enough to regen everything. Combat droids were used but really didn't help too much because he easily out swam them and they were only doing abotu 40pts damage to him.



Still, you can't heal in water...





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InspGadgt
Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:42 pm
#19






Eleutherios wrote:





InspGadgt wrote:





Eleutherios wrote:





InspGadgt wrote:
I was there with Frag...it was quite a fight to watch. Unfortunately I'm not Master BH yet so I did my best to help spot for my guildies when the Jedi was making a run for shore. Anyway the lowest the 3 of them ever got the Jedi was to half health and half mind...at that point we were all thinking he was toast but that's when he found water and was able to stay out of range long enough to regen everything. Combat droids were used but really didn't help too much because he easily out swam them and they were only doing abotu 40pts damage to him.





Still, you can't heal in water...





This guy was...reguardless if you can or cannot you can still regenerate in water.





Health regen is so pitiful that it doesn't really make a difference. Also, they have a penalty to health regen if they're usingBooster Blue, which is definitely the best spice if you intend to heal during PvP.





Even if it is pitifull when your out of attack range and in water it's still going to regen eventually back up to full



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Frag99
Sat Sep 24, 2005 12:52 am
#20


How in the world do you guys solo jedi?


Here's a little story of a hunt last night.I just returnedfrom a long vacation from SWG. Two guildmates and I decided to try and prove or disprove the that multiple BH's could get the same jedi's mission by checking the jedi's price. After 20 minutes of trying to find duplicate prices we gave up and decided to just try and get oneon the same planet. To all of our surpises we all got a jedi on Endor (it was about 2 am so maybe there weren't many jedi on). We all managed to get the same jedi for different prices...go figure.


Anyway this is were it gets interesting..I am MBH/MCarb/CM 4 0 0 0, my guildie is MBH/MRifles with root from somewhere, the last guildie involved is MBH/MCM/some pistols. We tracked the target to a lake on Endor. He was a fair distance from the lake when we hit him. We rooted him, poisoned him, bled him and just generally shot the crap out of him, 3 of us. He still managed to get to the water, at this point we pulled combat droids and started shooting him in the water. He promptly swam at super speed away from the droids....which could not keep up for some unknown reason. He pulled his bike after recharging his force ( I presume) heckling us all the way. As soon as he hit land we blew up his bike and proceeded to again root, DOT, shoot the crap out of him ( 3 BHs ..). We could not seem to get his mind to go and he kept his health above 1/2 pretty much the whole time. He again makes it to water as we get ever closer to the starport. We tried to detonate 2 bomb driods on him, but they didn't even dent his health while he was swimming.


He kept standing in the water and healing himself...I am not sure how this works but it was like he could walk on water. Finally, he gets out of the water and pulls out one of the new 100% terrain negotiation speederbikes. I tried to blow up the speeder with my droid as he was out of range of my carbine, but it was hitting him instead....very odd. We get to the starport and he is running around the buildings trying to get to the ticket area. Again we are rooting, knocking down, bleeding, poisoning all that stuff. He runs into the terminal and disappears...with 3 BHs constantly shooting him. His guildies were all over Dantooine reporting back to him where we were. We wanted to try and catch him coming into one of the ports. He finally logs out. I told his guildie "Man Jedi are crazy tough to kill know." His guildie says "He's a Master Defender."....as if that explains the whole incident.


Granted I haven't played SWG much since hurricane CU hit, but I was using a nice proton carbine from a quest and never once ran out of action or mind constantly spamming specials like knockdown, stun, blind, cripple,and torsoshot. We had buffs and food and none of us were in an danger of dieing at any point. My guildmates have better weapons then I am carrying and we didn't make a dent in the fella.


So I ask all of the successful post CU BH's, if a jedi decides to run instead of fight....how in the world does a lone BH kill one. Back before CU I had a nice string of dead Jedi's even a couple Knights I am stumped on how you guys are doing it now. Pre-CU it was hit them so hard so fast they never got the chance to run, with root and everything we can hold them up longer but they actually seem to be in less danger then before. I had blast trying, but it was pathetic that 3 of us couldn't take this guy down.


Where did we go wrong?



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