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Thread: Solution to House Hiding: Discuss

SamousNemo
Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:44 pm
#14

I can't see the Devs ever implementing something like this.


However, I am working on an alternate fix. Will post here as soon as I get the go-ahead from the Corr forums





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SamousNemo
Mon Oct 10, 2005 2:01 pm
#15






Dlek_Krego wrote:



What alternative can there be?


If the Jedi is already in the safety of a private house, then it's game over, either wait it out and catch the Jedi off-guard, or get a new mission, but there should be NO alternative to get the Jedi out of a private structure.






You're coming at this from the wrong angle. Yes, that's vauge, but I'll have an explanation soon enough.




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DanielDirem
Mon Oct 10, 2005 2:32 pm
#16

How about giving MBHs the ability to cloak also, but have it work more like cover instead of teh Jedi skill of Cloaking.


Allow the MBH to go invisible on the radar and in plain sight, like the Jedi Skill of Cloaking, with no reduced speed so they can run, but have it work like cover in the aspect that when the mark gets within a certain distance or the BH begins to attack the cloak is gone.



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freedomwarrior
Mon Oct 10, 2005 2:34 pm
#17






SamousNemo wrote:





Dlek_Krego wrote:



What alternative can there be?


If the Jedi is already in the safety of a private house, then it's game over, either wait it out and catch the Jedi off-guard, or get a new mission, but there should be NO alternative to get the Jedi out of a private structure.






You're coming at this from the wrong angle. Yes, that's vauge, but I'll have an explanation soon enough.







IM sorry, but I cant ever see the devs forcing a jedi out of their house, for whatever reason. They pay to play just as we do. If you come on them, drop the mission and move on, geese. This profession wasnt meant to be easy and as such, there are drawbacks. Just because our content is ruined doesnt mean that they should be made to do anything different. If they want their content to be house sitting, then so be it. Who are we to say otherwise?



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freedomwarrior
Mon Oct 10, 2005 2:35 pm
#18






DanielDirem wrote:

How about giving MBHs the ability to cloak also, but have it work more like cover instead of teh Jedi skill of Cloaking.


Allow the MBH to go invisible on the radar and in plain sight, like the Jedi Skill of Cloaking, with no reduced speed so they can run, but have it work like cover in the aspect that when the mark gets within a certain distance or the BH begins to attack the cloak is gone.




Its called the new ranger rules. You want this power, pick up ranger.




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DanielDirem
Mon Oct 10, 2005 2:45 pm
#19

They are actually able to go cloaked like the jedi or more like cover?





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GlargTheKelfn
Mon Oct 10, 2005 2:47 pm
#20

nothing wrong with sitting in a house. lots of jedi don't want to fight. period.

the solution is to make the pvp consensual (sf / on leave) or remove xp loss.

jedi has no reason to fight, and every reason to avoid the confrontation completely.




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Skraak
Mon Oct 10, 2005 2:52 pm
#21


OMFG I CANT KILL THIS JEDI...HE IS IN HIS PRIVATE HOUSE OMFG MAKE MY LIFE EASY!



Seriously though...cry more. Honestly, you make us look bad.



Shibi80
Mon Oct 10, 2005 2:57 pm
#22






BattleSw0rd wrote:

I have been sitting here and ive pulled 4 or 5 jedi missions. and ive asked round my guild about this. As you all know, House-Hiding seems to be a jedis only way to avoid being hunted. I have been thinking what can be done to solve this problem.


One idea i tossed round in my head was to generate a TEF on the jedi once the Bounty Hunter uses the "identify target" command on his seeker. The TEF would effectively remove the jedi from whatever house they are hiding in and force them to be apart of the PvP part of their template. If the bounty hunter doesnt attack within a certain period of time, the tef drops and the BH must send out the Identifying Seeker again. This WOULD lead to the issue of BH's just using the Identify Target option on 4 out of 5 droids they send out. To solve that the "Identify" option would now have a chance of success in identifying the target" if you fail then youd have to wait 5 minutes before sending out another identify droid. As far as the "track target" command, this would work the same, the ONLY way to draw a Jedi out of a house would be using the identify target option.


I know theres plenty of you who want to flame this idea...but its what ive been thinking about and if anyone thinks thered be a better way to go about it, post it here...i think with enough ideas posted we could get this looked at




Wouldn't that kinda be like a really big red flag to the jedi? They're chillin in their house, mindin their business, and all of a sudden they're kicked out...? So then they know you're coming. And they have ample time to log, go to Kashyyyk and make it almost impossible to track them, or take you on a wild goose chase all over the galaxy wasting hours of time. It's a neat idea, in theory, but things like that aren't gonna work. It's not feasible, and it's not really fair either.





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Dlek_Krego
Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:01 pm
#23







Shibi80 wrote:





BattleSw0rd wrote:

I have been sitting here and ive pulled 4 or 5 jedi missions. and ive asked round my guild about this. As you all know, House-Hiding seems to be a jedis only way to avoid being hunted. I have been thinking what can be done to solve this problem.


One idea i tossed round in my head was to generate a TEF on the jedi once the Bounty Hunter uses the "identify target" command on his seeker. The TEF would effectively remove the jedi from whatever house they are hiding in and force them to be apart of the PvP part of their template. If the bounty hunter doesnt attack within a certain period of time, the tef drops and the BH must send out the Identifying Seeker again. This WOULD lead to the issue of BH's just using the Identify Target option on 4 out of 5 droids they send out. To solve that the "Identify" option would now have a chance of success in identifying the target" if you fail then youd have to wait 5 minutes before sending out another identify droid. As far as the "track target" command, this would work the same, the ONLY way to draw a Jedi out of a house would be using the identify target option.


I know theres plenty of you who want to flame this idea...but its what ive been thinking about and if anyone thinks thered be a better way to go about it, post it here...i think with enough ideas posted we could get this looked at




Wouldn't that kinda be like a really big red flag to the jedi? They're chillin in their house, mindin their business, and all of a sudden they're kicked out...? So then they know you're coming. And they have ample time to log, go to Kashyyyk and make it almost impossible to track them, or take you on a wild goose chase all over the galaxy wasting hours of time. It's a neat idea, in theory, but things like that aren't gonna work. It's not feasible, and it's not really fair either.





or better yet, jump on their personal Yacht and cruise the stars for awhile...


Message Edited by Dlek_Krego on 10-10-2005 03:02 PM





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DocSavag
Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:03 pm
#24



SamousNemo wrote:


Dlek_Krego wrote:


What alternative can there be?

If the Jedi is already in the safety of a private house, then it's game over, either wait it out and catch the Jedi off-guard, or get a new mission, but there should be NO alternative to get the Jedi out of a private structure.



You're coming at this from the wrong angle. Yes, that's vauge, but I'll have an explanation soon enough.





If you are making a proposal why would you need Dev approval to post about it here first?



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Arrow095
Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:05 pm
#25






DanielDirem wrote:

How about giving MBHs the ability to cloak also, but have it work more like cover instead of teh Jedi skill of Cloaking.


Allow the MBH to go invisible on the radar and in plain sight, like the Jedi Skill of Cloaking, with no reduced speed so they can run, but have it work like cover in the aspect that when the mark gets within a certain distance or the BH begins to attack the cloak is gone.





Get 0/1/0/0 in Rifleman and you have the cover option. Get 0/4/0/0 in Rifleman and you have the cover and improved conceal shot.



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sm1550
Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:06 pm
#26

No flames, but how about leaving the system as-is and let Jedi sit in their houses? The system is not broken, so doesn't need a 'fix'.


If you are instead referring to Jed that drop houses while being attacked by BH's, why not simply ask for the Dev's to implement something tmer where you can't drop a house or structurewithin 5-10 minute's of being aggroed. That way those Jedi that are getting 200m away and dropping a house are stopped from being chumps and those of us who are hanging out with friends in a GH or Cantina....or simply afk getting a drink, don't get sucker punched at the same time.



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