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Thread: Dark clouds on the horizon

RebMBH
Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:16 am
#14

Well it seems to me that both sides agree that there are way 2 many jedi and way 2 many bh's. Something has to be done to save this game. instead of flamming each other left and right why not get both communities together and try to figure out a logical solution that both groups could submit to the dev and maybe having bothprofs united would get us all a better chance of fixing this game.



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RebsBeware
Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:22 am
#15






RebMBH wrote:

instead of flamming each other left and right why not get both communities together and try to figure out a logical solution that both groups could submit to the dev and maybe having bothprofs united would get us all a better chance of fixing this game.






/hug all jedi



too many already, what can be done? nothing, its pandora's box, its been opened, it cant be put back. you going to ask the most recent 500 jedi players on each server to respec back to normal, or make bh a 6 month veteran reward openable prof? while i might love to see that, its in no way realistic, fair on new players, or EVER going to happen. whats done cant be undone sadly.



oh, P.S.


/hug all jedi, even the FCers






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JakeA007
Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:22 am
#16

I don't even care if its balanced! Read my plan. Jedi should be more powerful then BH! However for this to work, not everyone can be a jedi. Jedi do not cause imbalance, too many jedi cause imbalance.
Pootian
Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:24 am
#17



Shadow705 wrote:
Allow me to be the first (and possibly last) to not flame you.




Haha great!



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Orykko
Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:33 am
#18

Here is an interesting point to ponder. Throughout the history of this game the developers have made changes to the professions. Many times the changes made a lot of people switch professions. Do you think that any Jedi on any server will ever go back to being a normal profession?
yurylightmist
Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:34 am
#19

No im not saying it should be balanced, im saying thats why it wont work. CU brought balance, or attempted too. If that happened it would create imbalance and would defeat the purpose of the Combat Downgrade
gjholland
Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:39 am
#20

- Make Jedi have a TEF to everyone... NPCs included... if they use their glowsticks or Force powers in a city/town, perhaps not Anchorhead but everywhere else.


- Bring back Perma-death, give you say 5 Deathblows then you're a blue glowy. Maybe make it so your new character on that server can skip the Jedi trials or something.


- Can someone explain Imperial Jedi? Wouldn't Darth Vader kind of come down and stomp the snot out of you? Isn't an Imperial Jedi like Jumbo Shrimp or Honest Politician? Those terms don't go together.





yurylightmist
Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:40 am
#21

Ok, you bring back permadeath and the game will die. I for one am not gonna regrind my temp again no matter how easy it is. Permadeath was there when a jedi knight could kill 20 overts by himself. We are definalty not that powerful anymore.
JakeA007
Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:43 am
#22


Exactly, everyone agree there are too many jedi and bhs. This issue will kill the game if it is not resolved soon, and with the discussion here i fear it may already be too late. We need to work together to create a plan which pleases both sides.


My feelings are that if there are less jedi, there will also be less bhs. Now, how do we come up with a plan that doesn't outrage the whole jedi community which would destroy the game. That is the purpose of this thread. To come up with ideas to solve the problem we have on our hands. That is why we need some feedback on what jedi would do to fix this problem.


Also, if you haven't read my entire plan, please read it and give me some feedback.

Message Edited by JakeA007 on 07-08-2005 10:46 AM

yurylightmist
Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:50 am
#23

Alright, to fix this problem imo:Remember this is not to be construed in anyway possible but for the sake of this thread.


1. Make Lightsabers alittle more poweful. yeah ok they are already powerful enough but for this thread ill go out on a lim and say more


2. The FC on Heal and stuff could be lower, make the heal lose 1 second Cool down timer


3. Make jedi skills cost more, therefor making it worth to grind


4. Make it a minimum of 5-6 months of normal non FS play. then you can be FS via badges and whatnot


5. LS block upped to 50% at master. 25% is lame


6. Make jedi not need defender.


BH fixes


1. Add more Defense. Mabye add better attacks to the proff too


2. Adv Critcial Shot hits for more dmg and more criticals


3. like you said earlier. 1 for a padawan, 2 for a knight, 3 for a master and whatnot


4. Add a root to Bh that way you dont have to pick up xxx3 Pistoleer for Root


5. Mabye Bh could access higher energy resis armor that other profs cant.


6. make the BH grind similar to the jedi grind. but different.


JakeA007
Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:53 am
#24

That is an interesting thought orykko. My plan is based on the assumption that some jedi will become tired of not being able to get the next jedi level and will become a normal profession. However, what's to say they don't get tired and leaving the game, thus destroying it?
JakeA007
Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:59 am
#25

Ijust don't think buffing the professions is the answer. It would only lead to more people becoming jedi and more people becoming bhs. We need less bhs and less jedi. I know i would go back to rifleman/doctor if i could be assured that the jedi population could be kept in check.
Jamila
Fri Jul 08, 2005 11:16 am
#26

All I have to say is . . . wow. This is by far the best plan I have seen to solve nearly all of the BH/Jedi problems. It is amazingly well-thought out, and I salute you for that, Caelo.


On the BH side, this solves:


1) Not being able to get a Jedi mission because the Jedi's friend/alt is holding it


2) Their complaints that "xp loss is not enough." (which I agree with)


3) Knowing whether their target is online or not, could possibly add faction. (although supposedly this will be fixed in pub 20 . . .?)


. . . to name a few. I know I haven't touched all of them.


On the Jedi side, this solves:


1) Griefing - you can't get the Jedi's mission mulitple times in a row over a few days.


2) Ganking a low-level Paddy, or ganking in general.


3) Allows you to hunt with other Jedi without gaining vis. I agree with you, Caelo, Jedi should stick together. SOE has said that the new combat system is based on grouping, which just cripples Jedi. They should be able to group hunt without gaining vis if they want to. If you are a Jedi who likes to PvP, just do what you always do: sit in Theed/Coronet with your Jedi powers macros running, equip your LS, and wait.


Otherwise, it "hurts" Jedi in that it will now take them longer to become Jedi, which I don't even consider a hurt to Jedi. And it makes them more rare without killing them off completely. Plus, both Jedi and BHs have 50% chance of beating the other . . . assuming neither are eBayed.

I'm doing the village right now - and what's pathetic is that I became FS after only a month of playing. I feel like I haven't earned it, like it's just another profession.


OK, I know I didn't mention all the benefits/costs, but tell me (other than the bugged TEF) what problem with the Jedi does this not solve? No more overpopulation, Jedi actually mean something, and people will still feel like becoming a Jedi is possible!


/waves wildly at devs PLEASE LOOK AT THIS THREAD! THIS MAN HAS THE MOST SENSIBLE IDEA EVER!


By the way, here's me not flaming you. Good job, and please, for the love of God and all that's holy, pick up an application to become a dev.


-Jamila




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