Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: Melee Defense question
allibobba
Sun Jun 20, 2004 5:47 pm
#14
right now on test, 125 melee defense on my jedi does nada :/
NS elder killed me in about 5 hits, never missed. hope that doesn't hit live lol. that would be bad, really bad.
ArianSix
Sun Jun 20, 2004 6:54 pm
#15
Sounds about right. I'm master LS/Def and my defenses don't amount to Jack with higher level mobs. I get hit for tons of damage and they almost never miss.
When fighting Ancient Bull Rancors earlier today (these are much easier than NS) I found that they generally tend to miss just once during an entire combat sequence.
-- A6
Bannon9k
Sun Jun 20, 2004 7:15 pm
#16
Which NS are you fighting?
Back when NS didnt use the force power, all I had was master fencer and NO armor. Without using CoB I could Kill 5 NS (anything smaller than a Spellweaver) at a time without going past half health if I was buffed.
NS elder, well yea, she's practically a master Force wielder, you deserve to die to that girl.
Thriend
Sun Jun 20, 2004 7:22 pm
#17
I was fighting nightsister protectors or spell weavers... my 90 melee defense did nothing, they hit me everytime, i'm willing to bet 125melee defense is no better.
Borwin
Sun Jun 20, 2004 8:46 pm
#19
Its clearly evident that these high level npc's have real high accuracy and that melee defense means jack **edit** vs. them.
What Jedi clearly need is a second damage avoidance ability for melee attacks... i.e. fix damn saber block.. ok!
Oldy
Sun Jun 20, 2004 9:47 pm
#20
yes melee defense is useless to the real high creatures they adjusted accuracy a while back for all these high mobs for defense stackers.
AlexHood
Tue Dec 28, 2004 10:12 am
#21
Hi,
I have melee defense of +20 in my final template. I just looted a cloak with +9 melee defense. Is there any value in going from +20 to +29 (I cannot afford a lot of other ca's or aa's to go higher atm), or should I just auction the item. A friend explained melee defense, and indicated that unless you can get up over 100 or more, its practically useless. So if I already had 110, it would be of some use to go to 119, but at only 20, going to 29 is of little or no benefit.
any thoughts on this?
thanks
Alexhood
Doratos
Tue Dec 28, 2004 10:22 am
#22
If i were you i would wear that cloak, then get some melee defense pants and shirt, you can get 4 from each of these. That will give you 17 extra melee defense, almost doubling it! I have heard that melee defense not only makes you get hit less, it also has a hidden dmg reduction tied into it....No idea how true that is, but that knight robe isnt that big of a help, once you get knight 250 force is not that much to lose. I would run some tests if i were you and see how much it actually helps. It seems to me that melee defense does a lot more in pve than it does in pvp. I have like 105 melee defense (4000 defender) and i get hit almost every time in pvp....but in pve i dont get hit very often. I wish we could get some hard numbers on melee defense...hope this helps!
Memnoch127
Tue Dec 28, 2004 10:42 am
#23
Well considering Jedi cant wear armor id grab any and all defensive clothing and skill tapes that you come across, even if it just adds 1 in 5000th of a chance that you will win the battle its worth it.
AlexHood wrote:
Hi,
I have melee defense of +20 in my final template. I just looted a cloak with +9 melee defense. Is there any value in going from +20 to +29 (I cannot afford a lot of other ca's or aa's to go higher atm), or should I just auction the item. A friend explained melee defense, and indicated that unless you can get up over 100 or more, its practically useless. So if I already had 110, it would be of some use to go to 119, but at only 20, going to 29 is of little or no benefit.
any thoughts on this?
thanks
Alexhood
DathylBran
Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:14 am
#24
Do melee def tapes work against Jedi, with me as a pistoleer, or do I need to be using a melee weapon?
Thanks in advance
lbfoofoo
Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:23 am
#25
i think they work against jedi. if i'm not mistaken they just add to your defense against melee attacks
DathylBran
Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:36 am
#26
lbfoofoo wrote:
i think they work against jedi. if i'm not mistaken they just add to your defense against melee attacks
Thanks, yes, thats what I was hoping, the LS being a melee weapon. It was really whether you had to have a melee weapon equipped was the biggest issue in my understanding.