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Thread: I Don't Want to Hunt Full Template Jedi!

-HadesBabe-
Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:39 am
#14






Jargal wrote:




If I were a paddie I would have stayed hidden far out on a remote planet. Living high up on a mountin, doing my jedi training solo. Id rarely go down from the mountin and visit cities.


AND I would almost never get hunted. AND it would take me very, very long time to become jedi...as it is (was)ment to be.






Well....this was what I was doing pre-CU. I hunted almost exclusively on Endor, solo, and was only on the terms a couple of times due to me killing a few npc's on a couple occasions. Back then I could xp reliably and make money with the scout skills I had and stay off of the terms. Post-CU, I was forced to pick up another combat prof just to survive in a group. Now with the no group vis, looks like I can pick up more scout skills and start making some money again.

Message Edited by -HadesBabe- on 07-20-2005 09:40 AM



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AllHandlestaken
Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:44 am
#15


Put ourselves in the padawans shoes? Lol! They are supposed to get hunted and killed; that was the whole purpose of Bounty Hunting initially.


If you want to have a deep thought, put yourself in a Bounty Hunter's shoes right now


Message Edited by AllHandlestaken on 07-20-2005 10:03 AM



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GlargTheKelfn
Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:50 am
#16

'bottom feeding' has slowly been removed from the game, this is anothre example.

you used to get at leat 1 xp, no matter what you killed, not you have to fight stuff that's a challenge to get anything.
bh used to be able to beat up l50ish padi's, now you get what you get, more complete l80's.

seems to just be the way the game is going, and i for one am glad that l80's don't get to take on l50's for fun anymore.




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Quiet420
Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:52 am
#17






AllHandlestaken wrote:

Put ourselves in the padawans shoes? Lol! They are supposed to get hunted and killed; that was the whole purpose of Bounty Hunting initially.


If you want to have a deep though, put yourself in a Bounty Hunter's shoes right now








ok:


"whaa whaa I can't cause pain and suffering to real people, by making them lose real time or just harassing them...that makes me sad Whaa whaaaa whaa"


I'll put my saber down and log in my BH and run some missions in abit...but there is the initial result of this thought experiment


AllHandlestaken
Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:02 am
#18


I love how jedi feel like we like to cause pain and suffering just because we prefer xp loss with killing a jedi.


Everytime we kill a jedi it is(OH God! Stop grieving and harrassing me!). I"m so sick of that childish complaint. Get over it! We are BH. We are made to kill you. Just because we do our jobs doesn't mean we are Satan.


If you can't handle it, leave Jedi. You knew what you were getting into when you first entered the profession. Unfortunately the Devs have given into your excessive whining and crying about it and singly handedly destroyed one of the best professions in the game. Well done. Awesome the game is now being driven by grade school attitudes of Jedi such as the previous two posts! Woot Woot.





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NoStyleGuy
Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:05 am
#19






Hixxy_UK wrote:





-HadesBabe- wrote:


Put yourself in the shoes of the Padawans who were being hunted constantly. What if you, as a bounty hunter, kept reaching the verge of Investigation 3, and someone came along and killed you or you died in PvE and the next thing you know, you're a couple million in the hole, totally barred from advancing in your chosen profession?


Stack on top of this some griefer kept targetting you and hunting you endlessly because you were an easy kill. People don't like being unable to advance at all. That's why people advocated the idea that if they were gonna keep exp loss, then they needed to do away with negative xp, which was what I wanted.


Regardless of what many feel, showing the level of the Paddie, vis a vis the payout level, along with the Paddies name, was SOE-sanctioned griefing, plain and simple, as there were some BH's who were seriously abusing the system. Personally, I never accumulated much vis at all post-CU and almost never pre-CU. Now that I'm off the terms, I can foresee never being on them again till I am a fully templated Jedi, and I choose to be.



Message Edited by -HadesBabe- on 07-20-2005 09:28 AM




Theres a differenence between not being able to advance at all in Jedi, and in any other prof. Jedi, has, had, and always will have the risk of exp loss - so its nothing new for these lil' paddies. Its a risk, accept it. [pull out cliche book] "if u dont wanna get hunted, Stay off the terms!" do it the way ur supposed to "up high on a mountian . ..." like that other poster was saying. No other profession be it "Entertainer" or Master Bounty hunter, should ever have a loss of exp risk - at least not without the power and strength of a jedi.


What the original poster said is also a good point. Besides the 225k, we have nothing to gain from attacking full templates. They'll still be clogging up the GCW tommorow, they'll still be dueling in theed, they'll still be cloaked at the rebel rori outpost waiting for some non'jedi to go overt and gank him [hows that for greifing]. The padies on the other hand are different. They are the next generation of - GCW whores, Theed duelers, and Cloak gankers -- if we stop themfrom advancing even just pushng them back a day or 2 , its saved us non'jedi a little peace.


the new terminals are okay. i like the faction thing and the "only online" thing.

but theres a problem- jedi ....exploit---- i mean ---- unfair players ;-) . They do the log in/ log out trick and the terminals go crazy. Just look at the BH forums somemore theres 2 or 3 posts on "all my targets are offline" . u really thing its a coincidence that all his targets log off within a few moments of him getting a mission?


one more bad thing about the terms - All the jedi who stand behind the BH terms in Kadaara and say "Iim Fulltemplated jedi , and standing right here - take my mission and collect an easy 225k!!!!!" [can u say greifing?] Now those ppl can do it with impunity because theres no way in heck -- aside from a lucky roll -- we can get thier mission.


i think in the grand sceme of things this is whats important - TO JEDI: Very few bounty hunters care about looking good in your eyes - take 1 225k mission and risk death? or take 3 or 4 100k missions and have a blast? i know what i would do. also about "paddie whacking": Guess what? i dont care if it makes me look like a PvP n00b - if it keeps john doe 80k paddie from being a GCW whorin', theed dueling, Cloak ganking, full template jedi -- im definatley gona do it. TO BH's: jedi have nothing gain from killing us so if they run or hide or otherwise exploit the system so we can't hunt [login/off] we shouldn't be mad -- we should just make sure he or his little paddie friend never get to full template





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Quiet420
Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:06 am
#20






AllHandlestaken wrote:


I love how jedi feel like we like to cause pain and suffering just because we prefer xp loss with killing a jedi.


Everytime we kill a jedi it is(OH God! Stop grieving and harrassing me!). I"m so sick of that childish complaint. Get over it! We are BH. We are made to kill you. Just because we do our jobs doesn't mean we are Satan.


If you can't handle it, leave Jedi. You knew what you were getting into when you first entered the profession. Unfortunately the Devs have given into your excessive whining and crying about it and singly handedly destroyed one of the best professions in the game. Well done. Awesome the game is now being driven by grade school attitudes of Jedi such as the previous two posts! Woot Woot.






read the thread title, dolt.

AllHandlestaken
Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:21 am
#21

/agree



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Quiet420
Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:34 am
#22

I love how BH's feel they have a right to selectively target weak padawans just because they face no risk


Everytime a BH takes a full template jedi's mission it is (oh god! I don't have a guarenteed victory, not fair!) I'm so sick of this childish complaint. Get over it! we are Jedi. You are made to kill us. Just because we reach full template, we're not off the hook.


If you can't handle it, leave BH. You knoew what you were getting into when you first entered the profession. Fortunatly the Devs have recognized you were neglecting the full templates, made adjustments accordingly and single handedly destroyed the ability to selectively target individuals to halt advancement. Well Done. Awesome the game is now being balanced to eliminate grade school griefers. Woot Woot.



I like my version better.


CIO_TalonD
Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:48 am
#23






AllHandlestaken wrote:


Put ourselves in the padawans shoes? Lol! They are supposed to get hunted and killed; that was the whole purpose of Bounty Hunting initially.


If you want to have a deep thought, put yourself in a Bounty Hunter's shoes right now



Message Edited by AllHandlestaken on 07-20-2005 10:03 AM




Errmm..no initially there wasn't even player bounties or Jedi..Initially the purpose of BH was a high end pvp proff.


Not specifically designed and implimented to hunt and kill jedi, but alas, your registration date shows why you have this assumption.





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Shaggscoob
Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:07 am
#24


Please remember I'm not whining


Ok, so I'm a player who recently got padawan (yes double xp weeks, blah blah blah) But I have been an elite player for some time, I just hated grinding that's all. Well, I used to thoroughly enjoy pvp, so I thought "this is great I get to have spontaneous pvp!" But I soon found out that it is literally IMPOSSIBLE for anyone below level 80 to kill an elite level 80 character unless the bounty hunter just blows. I tried grouping with another level 80 at all times, and I did a little better, but it's still impossible with my utter lack of defenses. Now like I said I like pvp, but until you get level 80 (which takes a long time of grinding before the levels even out) it's not even a fight, it's a slaughter. I would completely agree with this post if it was actually fun to fight the bh, but it's just stupid right now.



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NeoEcks
Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:08 am
#25






CIO_TalonD wrote:





AllHandlestaken wrote:


Put ourselves in the padawans shoes? Lol! They are supposed to get hunted and killed; that was the whole purpose of Bounty Hunting initially.


If you want to have a deep thought, put yourself in a Bounty Hunter's shoes right now



Message Edited by AllHandlestaken on 07-20-2005 10:03 AM




Errmm..no initially there wasn't even player bounties or Jedi..Initially the purpose of BH was a high end pvp proff.


Not specifically designed and implimented to hunt and kill jedi, but alas, your registration date shows why you have this assumption.







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Corvett
Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:22 am
#26






slave138 wrote:





Quiet420 wrote:

that's why they made the changes....you don't wanna hunt full templates, non-full templates don't wanna be hunted...fair compromise...come hunt me.








Ummm compromises usuallyinvolve a little give-and-take from both sides - Not giving one side more, and more, and more. Sure, the mission terminals got a few enhancements that are nice for hunters, but in comparison, it was hardly a compromise.




Hmmm, lets take a look at this.

1. Bh's asked for jedi to be nerfed and they were by a Massive amount. Saber Block, Mind costs on heals, heal delay's..ect and they got it.


2. Bh's asked for Jedi to not be able to run into houses while they are being attacked, well, they got better. Now they are thrown out of any structure whether the jedi attacks or not FORCEING a battle and they got it.


3. They asked for the terminals to only have Jedi that are online be on there and they got it.


4. They asked for Jedi not to be able to get any help from anyone but they can use other Bh's and they got it.


5. They asked for the terminals to show factions and they got it.



You are correct in your statement. It is hardly a compromise when the only thing Jedi have gotten are nerfs and a name taken off the terminals. BH's have gotten more love than any other proffession in the last 2 months so all this crying from Bh's is ridiculous.



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