Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: Jedi behavior
PlasmaBolt wrote:
I would like to see this added to SWG gameplay. SOE should have SWG guides. These guides should be veteran players with extensive knowledge of the SWG environment. They would be mini me GM's. They would go from city to city helping players with questions and problems. Yet! Their most important function would be testing and watching Jedi activity. Meaning if a Jedi who has committed himself/herself to the light side is acting in an arrogant or immature way,as Atikin did in the movies, they would be hit with a negative 2000 rebel faction for giving in to the dark side. Likewise if a jedi committed to the dark side is acting in a generous and kind way they would take a negative 2000 imperial faction hit. If the light jedi or dark jedi continuous to act in a way not in accordance with the side they swore allegiance to they would randomly go on killing sprees of their friends, guildmates and current party members just as Atikin did with rebel the children jedi. As it is Many Jedi are arrogant self centered children. As an example A friend of mine just earned his Master Bounty Hunter status. After completing two Jedi kills within an hour he was being flamed on the forums. All for doing what is inherent in the game. Yoda would not put up with such self centered arrogant behavior and as evidence look at the smack down the Jedi council gave Atikin in the movie......
Not all Jedi are arrogant and self centered. I spend most of my time helping guild mates grind, with quests, and do stuff as groups, take friends into high end content areas, etc, which is WHY I WANTED to be a Jedi in the game!
Please don't generalize. Sometimes a minority can unfairly give others a bad reputation.
I do wish the Jedi system had a way to reward good behavior and punish bad, but implimenting such a thing in a game like SWG would be virtually impossible.
Message Edited by wildcat84 on 08-19-2005 12:43 PM
Jedi_Xan wrote:
Just because I am a dark side jedi, does not mean I am not a gentleman. Count Dooku was elequant. An officer and a gentlemen. Just because I have evil intentions, does not mean I am some kind of demon spawn. A true dark jedi would not waste his time with those who pose no threat to him. imho.
I agree... If you have ever seen .Hack //Sign you'll know how hard it is to have a In Game Galactic Police. It's just too hard to give Players that kind of athority. Look at the 5th HP book where Draco was given the power to give or take away House points. Grifendor ended up in the negtives because he was abusing this power. But anyway Back to the game, In MMOs u can't realy control the way other people play the game. And I personaly see something wrong with forcing your view of ediquit on others. Plus! Forget Yoda The only person left in the universewho maybe knows he's alive is the Emperor.
vladdvader wrote:
just have to add... in the movies... the jedi got the "smackdown" from Anakin... not the other way around. However I do agree that they should be forced to act in a manor that reflects their character type.
And why only jedi again?
PlasmaBolt wrote:
Being hunted by bounty hunters is the price tag to being a Jedi. It is a basic concept of the game. It was also an example of the imature stature of many Jedi.
BHs cry and moan just as much as jedi do. for it is far to easy to be a BH now.
Jedi_Xan wrote:
Just because I am a dark side jedi, does not mean I am not a gentleman. Count Dooku was elequant. An officer and a gentlemen. Just because I have evil intentions, does not mean I am some kind of demon spawn. A true dark jedi would not waste his time with those who pose no threat to him. imho.
however being a dark side jedi does not mean whining about everything they lose to or everything they want to whine about. it doesnt mean being an idiot either
vladdvader wrote:
just have to add... in the movies... the jedi got the "smackdown" from Anakin... not the other way around. However I do agree that they should be forced to act in a manor that reflects their character type.
1) many jedi escaped.
2) ok, make everyone choose a persona and punish them for not following it. talk about RL lose faction. imperial sells a weapon or SEA to a rebel is permadeathed for treason. refer to a toon by the alt characters name. get permanently added to his addignore list as he is so offended that you forgot his name. (neither toon can change this, since the offended character must remain 'in character.'
make sense? of course not. get over it it is a game. dont want hate tells? dont PvP, every game everywhere that has inclided PvP has included hate tells.
btw there are no jedi in this game, at least in terms of the jedi counsel. jedi are way too powerful to be a player class. there are only force sensitivelight saber usersthat are called jedi.we are jedi only if by that definition you mean moderately skilled force weilders. (remember a real jedi knight and his padawan had the trade federation viceroy scared to death , and he had a freaking army.)
this is a terrible idea imo, and why would we waste our time helping ppl when there are CSR's
PlasmaBolt wrote:
I would like to see this added to SWG gameplay. SOE should have SWG guides. These guides should be veteran players with extensive knowledge of the SWG environment. They would be mini me GM's. They would go from city to city helping players with questions and problems. Yet! Their most important function would be testing and watching Jedi activity. Meaning if a Jedi who has committed himself/herself to the light side is acting in an arrogant or immature way,as Atikin did in the movies, they would be hit with a negative 2000 rebel faction for giving in to the dark side. Likewise if a jedi committed to the dark side is acting in a generous and kind way they would take a negative 2000 imperial faction hit. If the light jedi or dark jedi continuous to act in a way not in accordance with the side they swore allegiance to they would randomly go on killing sprees of their friends, guildmates and current party members just as Atikin did with rebel the children jedi. As it is Many Jedi are arrogant self centered children. As an example A friend of mine just earned his Master Bounty Hunter status. After completing two Jedi kills within an hour he was being flamed on the forums. All for doing what is inherent in the game. Yoda would not put up with such self centered arrogant behavior and as evidence look at the smack down the Jedi council gave Atikin in the movie.
Ahh yes the atikin diet...
High in fibre low in lightside...
yeah that joke was sh*t...but I'm on my 5th fosters,,,...was f*ckin funny to me...
Magic013 wrote:
vladdvader wrote:
just have to add... in the movies... the jedi got the "smackdown" from Anakin... not the other way around. However I do agree that they should be forced to act in a manor that reflects their character type.
And why only jedi again?
Sorry, didn't mean to make that sound like only Jedi should act in an according manor. It should apply to all character types.
HoopyFr00d wrote:
alephen wrote:
and before someone spews the 'you are jedi you knew you would be hunted,' i say this: knowing you would be hunted does not mean you want to be hunted.
What bunk. Knowing that you would be hunted may not imply that you want to be hunted, but by becoming a Jedi, you accept the fact that you will be hunted whether you want it or not. I don't want to get in a car accident, but by driving on the highway I know that I may get into one, and I accept that fact whether or not I want it to happen. I can minimize the probability of an accident through planning and cautious driving, but the possibility is always there.
I don't go out of my way to impose XP loss on any particular Jedi, and I don't derive any particular joy from it,but that's the system the devs have created and I'm playing my role become a Jedi with all the benefits and caveats that the profession carries,so if you have to spend a day regrinding 450k XP that you lost because you were careless enough to get on the terms, on your own head be it.
There is a very easy way to play this game without forced PvP and/or XP loss. Don't be a Jedi. Simple. Effective.
you call my point bunk, then you support it with an allegory, interesting. you can make the same point about the GCW: if you dont want PvP then dont participate, but guess what, enough people complained they didnt want forced PvP in order to participate and we have combatants instead of tefs. that is the crux of my arguement that SOE sees forced PvP as bad.
secondly, yes there is a way to play this game w/o forced PvP. there is also a way to play this game without getting hate tells. dont PvP, no hate tells. BHs are every bit as whiney as jedi these days. BH is a griefer class. it gets its content by causing loss to another (if you hunt players). period. is it designed to be a griefer class? yes it is, do jedi players know they/we will be griefed, yes we do, but howignorant do you have to be to be suprised when a jedi sends hate tells?
2 BH i have killed didnt send me hate tells. two of them, and they are the ones that initiated combat. PvP = crying babies. look for my posts where i cried, 'why are they so mean?'oh, yeah, i didnt post. BHs cry every bit as much as jedi, why i tend not to fight anymore, no use in it.
i dont send hate tells when a BH comes for me because it is immature. but i am certainly not suprised when a BH would send me hate tells. its called /addignore and move on. but heck with this BH loot, the only time i logged on my jedi the past 2 weeks was to train his padawan a jedi skill. lol