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Thread: Request for new Top Issues

Aristoi
Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:27 pm
#14






SamousNemo wrote:



4) Warp-Marks: Waypoints for NPC marks do not update for several minutes, and then suddenly the mark will be thousands of meters away





This is NOT a bug. Thiswas a FIX added in/around Publish 5 for marks that move. Back in the days of 10 mins shuttle waits there was a problem with marks getting off planet before you could EVER get there. There is a timer that starts as SOON as you get the planet from your probe droid. The timer can last anywhere from 3-15 mins before your mark starts moving, avg being 5-7 mins. During this timer your mark is still moving to the system and will update acorddingly if you do not get into visual (i.e. can target them) range before it runs out. Hence the warping mark "bug". At the time this timer was added the devs stated that it would not be changed and is working as intended.


Wepps went round and round with the dev's on this and that was the answer he was given.



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Starcloud
Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:38 pm
#15

And don't forget that ALL PvP, even Jedi vs. Bounty Hunter or Special Forces vs. Special Forces requires the consent of the other person on Test Center.

If I had more time to play, and if the Developers didn't actively ignore issues that come up on Test Center, I'd make it my primary server.
FaceInTheCrowd
Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:42 pm
#16






Starcloud wrote:
And don't forget that ALL PvP, even Jedi vs. Bounty Hunter or Special Forces vs. Special Forces requires the consent of the other person on Test Center.

If I had more time to play, and if the Developers didn't actively ignore issues that come up on Test Center, I'd make it my primary server.





Not all... there is a group of pvp folks who have come over to start a guild war gcw without jedi. Once the guild war started they are fair game to each other. Some of the TC jedi don't mind being hunted, others do.




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Sundal
Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:49 pm
#17






VegitoSS wrote:

Jedi going into faction bases is NOT a top issue. If they are special forces or combatant they have every right to enter a base. If you want to get them either hunt your own faction or kill the npc to get in.


First off if a jedi is special forces he has to fight S.F. players and BH's at the same time. Locking him out of his own faction base is just plain stupid. Why dont the jedi just go prone and let everyone kill him.







This is a problem. Some people roleplay and dont want to hunt thier own faction. And on some server it is widely look down upon to hunt your own faction.


From the game/story point of view you choose a faction and your *supposed* toparticipate in the GCW. It's obviously not working that way, but still, thats the way the game mechanic's supposed to work.

Mythrindir
Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:50 pm
#18

1.) "you cannot knockdown recovery while knocked down" yes i know this applies to all profession but it bugs the heck out of me...yes i know not to spam it.


2.) duel exploit most definately


3.) LOS...no way to take out the ones that play ring around the rosie with a house (without a root at least)




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Ezzah
Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:12 pm
#19

The single most fun part of this game was hunting jedi in groups, this is a multiplayer game, and the 1on1 bh vs jedi thing has been a game killer for me and my friends.

for my original post, pls see
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=bounty_hunter&message.id=550460
JoBoFedderish
Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:43 pm
#20

Add to it the never ending KD bug that plagues us all, the force choke bug which freezes the player til dead, the heal bug that delays heals for 10-15 seconds or the heal bug that tries to heal your opponent.



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TylerDarkman
Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:47 pm
#21






SamousNemo wrote:


Howdy guys


It's the habit of Correspondents to ask their player base for what they think are the Top Issues affecting their profession. Generally we only do this when asked by the Devs, but it's a good idea to have an updated list in case they should ask.


So now is your opportunity to let your Corro know what you feel are the Top Issues affecting Bounty Hunters. There's a whole bunch out there, but try to stick to profession-specific, i.e. don't say "My CM dots are too weak" as that would be a Combat Medic issue. Feel free to also list possible solutions to these issues.


I'll start it off with what I think are our Top Issues:


1) Duel Exploit: Currently if a Jedi attempts to /duel a Bounty Hunter, the system will let him know if the hunter has his bounty. Needless to say this completely negates the element of surprise, stalking, and first strike

And I find it funny how so many BHs used the /duel exploit to keep a jedi from attacking while he was beating on him. And all the post from the BHs in here on how they killed thier target using this method thought it was so much fun and laughed at all the defensless jedi.

Not too mention, if this were actually within the SW Universe, a jedi would sense the hint of trouble and/or know the BH was about to attack before the BH actually made any move.


2) Faction Bases: Jedi can enter factional structures while the BH TEF is active. The Devs have acknowledged this as an issue.

OMG, Jedi should never get away. Heaven forbid you fail your mission against low level jedi. /endsarcasm. It is a war and if a rebel were to make a run for his base, then it should be ok as that is where his buddies are. Sort of when you ran behind your mothers back when the big street bully wanted to kick you in the stomach. Same thing.


3) House-Bounties: A large percentage of our bounties are located inside structures. It doesn't do us much good to waste much of our time running from planet to planet to find a target we can't even get to. I do not approve of removing any player from a structure they are already in, or shooting through walls, or allowing aBHto enterabounty's home. HoweverI still think an alternative needs to be found

So Jedi are not allowed to sit at home and do nothing? Too bad you did not complete your mission, have a nice day!!! So you got pissed cause you cannot complete your mission? Why did you take the mission anyway? If he was out grinding and you killed him, now he is pissed off as he has to regrind all that lost XP. So either way, someone is going to be pissed off in the end. You just want the devs to change it so it is not always you? Too bad, drop mission, take another one. Write down name and next use a "Identify Target" droid to see if that is your jedi. After all, you probably did already to make sure it was not the hardcore PvPing Jedi Knight you know you cannot kill anyway.


4) Warp-Marks: Waypoints for NPC marks do not update for several minutes, and then suddenly the mark will be thousands of meters away

Agree this is annoying


5) Broken States: Dizzy should decrease offensive abilities and Stun should prevent action regeneration. Although this is a trans-profession issue, it hurts Bounty Hunters specifically as it makes Confusion Shot severely under-powered

Jedi have these abilities too, they do nothing. So either they fix them or keep them as is so it is even.


6) Duelist Stance:is reflecting back a fixed amount of 25 damage only. Suggest a % of damage taken (10-25%)

OK, then I suggest they make it so saber reflect bolts back at the attackers like they should if they fix this bug


Our old Top Issues thread can be foundhere


Those are just my ideas, so let me here yours


Good hunting!

Message Edited by SamousNemo on 10-10-2005 10:00 PM



I also hate looting Jars of Bugs from double chevron NPCs. Add that to your list.

VegitoSS
Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:01 pm
#22






Sundal wrote:





VegitoSS wrote:

Jedi going into faction bases is NOT a top issue. If they are special forces or combatant they have every right to enter a base. If you want to get them either hunt your own faction or kill the npc to get in.


First off if a jedi is special forces he has to fight S.F. players and BH's at the same time. Locking him out of his own faction base is just plain stupid. Why dont the jedi just go prone and let everyone kill him.







This is a problem. Some people roleplay and dont want to hunt thier own faction. And on some server it is widely look down upon to hunt your own faction.


From the game/story point of view you choose a faction and your *supposed* toparticipate in the GCW. It's obviously not working that way, but still, thats the way the game mechanic's supposed to work.







Roleplay or not, its just not right to force someone out of their own faction bases just because you want to hunt them. The GCW is part of this game and just because a BH wants to take a mission doesnt mean a person must give up their faction ability because of it. A jedi running into a faction base while combatant or S.F. is just part of the game. If you dont want to hunt same faction then you can always fight your way into the base GCW style. Dont expect the GCW to hand the jedi over to you on a silver platter just because you want to hunt jedi.


Please remove this from top five issues for BH's. There are many others I listed, similar to what others are saying, that need attention. KD bug is a valid top issue. Going into a faction base is just something that pissed a BH off because he couldnt get his/her mark. Far from being anyones top issue. Also, there is nothing you can do to stop a jedi from entering a house. Strike that out of the top issue too. And for the states... That effects everyone so its not a BH top issue.



Message Edited by VegitoSS on 10-10-2005 11:03 PM

LordDraconis
Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:52 pm
#23






VegitoSS wrote:






Sundal wrote:





VegitoSS wrote:

Jedi going into faction bases is NOT a top issue. If they are special forces or combatant they have every right to enter a base. If you want to get them either hunt your own faction or kill the npc to get in.


First off if a jedi is special forces he has to fight S.F. players and BH's at the same time. Locking him out of his own faction base is just plain stupid. Why dont the jedi just go prone and let everyone kill him.







This is a problem. Some people roleplay and dont want to hunt thier own faction. And on some server it is widely look down upon to hunt your own faction.


From the game/story point of view you choose a faction and your *supposed* toparticipate in the GCW. It's obviously not working that way, but still, thats the way the game mechanic's supposed to work.







Roleplay or not, its just not right to force someone out of their own faction bases just because you want to hunt them. The GCW is part of this game and just because a BH wants to take a mission doesnt mean a person must give up their faction ability because of it. A jedi running into a faction base while combatant or S.F. is just part of the game. If you dont want to hunt same faction then you can always fight your way into the base GCW style. Dont expect the GCW to hand the jedi over to you on a silver platter just because you want to hunt jedi.


Please remove this from top five issues for BH's. There are many others I listed, similar to what others are saying, that need attention. KD bug is a valid top issue. Going into a faction base is just something that pissed a BH off because he couldnt get his/her mark. Far from being anyones top issue. Also, there is nothing you can do to stop a jedi from entering a house. Strike that out of the top issue too. And for the states... That effects everyone so its not a BH top issue.




Message Edited by VegitoSS on 10-10-2005 11:03 PM





I see so house tef is ok but faction base is off the books? Why should a jedi be able to run into any housing. As for fighting all the npc....what are you dumb or somthing faction bases have a ton of npc in them a lone bh taking on 30 npc just to get to his mark is stupid. Faction bases are housing (don't try to suger coat it saying......oh its part of the GCW...) If you are SF thats your choice....you are still going to be hunted by bh and also you let your self get attacked by any other SF enemy.


Why should abh that doesn't hunt his own factionnot be able to get his mark but if you are the kind that hunt the samefaction you get to chase your mark any were? Alot of bh don't hunt the same faction why should they be pinished andone that hunt the same that beat their marks have no worrys of there marks running into a faction base? That is why its a topissue, its not fair to ones that don't hunt same faction.





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Dackrendarck
Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:01 pm
#24

Dont forget that Jedi now are also using duel to get DBed by a friend, so the BH does not get credit. This is a sever issue, no one should be able to duel the Jedi or BH during the TEF. Also, Jedi should not be able to use /duel to see a target, it should work like normal, let the System message say 'you challenge... to a duel'





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Sundal
Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:21 pm
#25






LordDraconis wrote:



I see so house tef is ok but faction base is off the books? Why should a jedi be able to run into any housing. As for fighting all the npc....what are you dumb or somthing faction bases have a ton of npc in them a lone bh taking on 30 npc just to get to his mark is stupid. Faction bases are housing (don't try to suger coat it saying......oh its part of the GCW...) If you are SF thats your choice....you are still going to be hunted by bh and also you let your self get attacked by any other SF enemy.


Why should abh that doesn't hunt his own factionnot be able to get his mark but if you are the kind that hunt the samefaction you get to chase your mark any were? Alot of bh don't hunt the same faction why should they be pinished andone that hunt the same that beat their marks have no worrys of there marks running into a faction base? That is why its a topissue, its not fair to ones that don't hunt same faction.








Exactly, for players that want to play the game the way it was made (picking a faction side, and sticking with it) we shouldnt be punished for it.
PotshotMcGee
Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:39 pm
#26

easy way to get by /duel, deactivate the mission until you are ready to attack. and all of you please refer to my previous post on the sf and combatant bases thank you.
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