Bounty Hunter Archive

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BarneyIX wrote:

Why do I feel like I am being forced to play a specific flavor? I don't want to be BH/CM.

I don't mind a challenge truly however, I would ask that all templates have a viable chance to defeat these guys. I have only successfully killed ONE gold chevron guy and thats because he was bugged and only hit me for ~ 90 points of damage per attack. It took me nearly 15 mins and it involved me just standing in front of him unloading my weapons.

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Unfortunately the problem may well lie with your template.

From the CU diagram BH was 4,4,1 I think for attack, defence, crowd control if I remind correctly. It still needs extra damage to compliment it though.

Choosing Smuggler has given you a high score in Crown control, which unfortunately is compromised against your damage output.

You really cant complain, you cant expect to have say the damage of a rifleman when you have traded that damage for the ability to slice your own weapons and be more of a group player with your crowd control abilities. Some templates are better than others for things, the point is no one template is good at everything.

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ValeTudo wrote:

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BarneyIX wrote:

Why do I feel like I am being forced to play a specific flavor? I don't want to be BH/CM.

I don't mind a challenge truly however, I would ask that all templates have a viable chance to defeat these guys. I have only successfully killed ONE gold chevron guy and thats because he was bugged and only hit me for ~ 90 points of damage per attack. It took me nearly 15 mins and it involved me just standing in front of him unloading my weapons.

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Unfortunately the problem may well lie with your template.

From the CU diagram BH was 4,4,1 I think for attack, defence, crowd control if I remind correctly. It still needs extra damage to compliment it though.

Choosing Smuggler has given you a high score in Crown control, which unfortunately is compromised against your damage output.

You really cant complain, you cant expect to have say the damage of a rifleman when you have traded that damage for the ability to slice your own weapons and be more of a group player with your crowd control abilities. Some templates are better than others for things, the point is no one template is good at everything.

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Bounty Hunter

Offense 4

Defense 4

Crowd Control 1

Smuggler

Offense 3

Defense 1

Crowd Control 5

Thats from the website. Contrast those stats with Pistoleer/Rifleman

Pistoleer

Offense 2

Defense 3

Crowd Control 4

Rifleman

Offensive 5

Defense 1

Crowd Control 3

The differences between the combat classes that you combine with MBH aren't that great according to the website. My main problem IMHO is that I don't have access to DOT's to combat the incredibly high regen rate of these mobs.

The regen rate is SOOOO high that it negates cc abilities which are an important aspect to my char.

If you combine MBH with anyother combat proffession shouldn't you, if you play your class well, be successful?

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Ulrek_Oden wrote:

you might consider some kinetic resist armor...

I have 8100 resist Ubese for energy... but if I come up against a double gold I switch to my Composite as I know they will eventually go melee and that is USUALLY kinetic.. Unless of course he pulls out a vibro lance like my last gold mark did LOL that is energy... so my Composite was at a bit of a disadvantage.

Also consider getting a CL30 combat droid... they only hit for about 70 or so on the CL82 marks... but they fire very fast and the damage adds up....

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I don't find it difficult with my template to avoid Melee... but I might try this strategy.

And the droid idea is good too... although kinda goes against how I would LIKE to achieve victory.

Message Edited by BarneyIX on 10-28-200508:47 AM

Message Edited by BarneyIX on 10-28-2005 08:48 AM

Message Edited by Thenger on 10-28-2005 10:07 AM

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BarneyIX wrote:

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Fett009 wrote:

well its true, why do you have to make a new thread? you could have added to the other threads whining about boss marks

the new npc AI is brilliant i think, one of only a few positive things that they have added since the CU

and half a day after this new AI is introduced, this forum is flooded with whiners asking for boss marks and even elites to be nerfed

im always one to give advice to others, but one thing i cant stand is constant whining about a challange

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Whats it to you if I make a new thread? I felt that I was approaching the issue from a diffrent direction mainly that if you don't have DOT's its NEIGH impossible to win.

If you think HAM regeneration has ANYTHING to do with AI you're kidding yourself.

I like the way the use thier specials and react to what I am doing but as it stands now without CM DOT's I honestly can't do enough damage.

I don't think my weapons are that underpowered I do admit they are not the best of the best but what is the MIN weapn dam that I NEED to win?

I feel like I have a decent Rifle Dam and Decent Pistol dam. With my PUP in the Pistol max dam is ~ 900 something.. cant recall exactly.

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Wasz wrote:

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BarneyIX wrote:

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Fett009 wrote:

well its true, why do you have to make a new thread? you could have added to the other threads whining about boss marks

the new npc AI is brilliant i think, one of only a few positive things that they have added since the CU

and half a day after this new AI is introduced, this forum is flooded with whiners asking for boss marks and even elites to be nerfed

im always one to give advice to others, but one thing i cant stand is constant whining about a challange

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Whats it to you if I make a new thread? I felt that I was approaching the issue from a diffrent direction mainly that if you don't have DOT's its NEIGH impossible to win.

If you think HAM regeneration has ANYTHING to do with AI you're kidding yourself.

I like the way the use thier specials and react to what I am doing but as it stands now without CM DOT's I honestly can't do enough damage.

I don't think my weapons are that underpowered I do admit they are not the best of the best but what is the MIN weapn dam that I NEED to win?

I feel like I have a decent Rifle Dam and Decent Pistol dam. With my PUP in the Pistol max dam is ~ 900 something.. cant recall exactly.

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Your damage is suspect. My rodian female MBH/Mpistols/CM4000 has 2900 HAM, uses unsliced 6000 resist ubese armor, sliced Krayt enhanced weapons that exceed 1000 dmg with DPS over 500. She is capped in defense and speed. She uses buffs and food to keep some advantage. Against boss and elite marks she wins. Most marks take 3 minutes to waste their HAM. The secret is when t use your inherent heals and stim D. Adjust your tactics, move and get some LOS advantage if necessary. Not all marks can be tanked in a face to face standoff. Hope that helps.

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What pistols do you have that are over 1000 max dmg? how about a screen shot? I think the feather weight FWG is the best pistol you can get, damage caps at 966... as for 3 min, there is no way that you have fought one of these boss' with the insane regen rate...they regen so fast a group of pistoleers could not take them down in 3 min.

As I said above I fought one of these guys as a BH/CM/pist 3001...it took forever to kill him..armor 6k battle w 2k psg, pistol 65 sac max 966 fwg. Its my fundamental problem with the CU and all changes since is that everything makes combat go slower, you dont think more, tactic's are not different, everything is just slower. Apply dots, spam specials, heal when needed..repeat until mob is dead...why the devs think it is more fun to do this in 20-30 min as opposed to 5 I have no idea.

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I assumed that he was referring to a rifle cause 1k damage from a Pistol is mighty nice way better than mine currently.

My Assulat Bowcaster can break 1k if I PUP it for Damage but then the SAC kills me at 92.

My Eq costs cause someone else brought this up:

My Armor I bought a packaged deal 1 Million 8064 Energy something close to 5k Kin.

Assault Bowcaster 500k a steal IMHO certainly not the best stats but the NICE ones go for ~ 5mil on my server.

Maybe 100k for the Scatter clearly the weakest link it has decent enough damage but the reason I like it is for the SAC. One of the lowest I have seen for a Scatter.

With my Bowcaster and this Scatter I am able to spam specials almost constantly and I don't take a hit on damage loss. I rarely get my Action to 80% or lower. I also keep 2 backup PUPS of both kinds in my inven along with backup Spice in case the fight lasts that long.

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Thenger wrote:
My currant FWG has over a max of 1000 damage as well. What you do is buy a damage pup for the fwg and you can increase the damage, remember that a low SAC gun is key so you don't have to put a sac pup on it and just put a damage one on instead. Anything under 80 is the way to go, an FWG sac max is 65 I belive, just picked one up myself and need to see if the 14dps loose is worth it. I also have a scatter pistol as well which is half way decent too.

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