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Thread: Look at this saber damage (screeny)
yes its plm. Tried to blank it but couldn't be arsed to blank the saber name out. And yeah been told plm is a regular pvp'er on my server and a good jedi. This isn't an attack on her/him but the damage output. Its massive and not the only jedi to do that to me.
Frankly daboom don't do it justice 
Message Edited by Laney_1uk on 08-31-2005 12:14 PM
Message Edited by Laney_1uk on 08-31-2005 12:15 PM
Isnt there a damage bonus when you are knocked down? (all these hits where when you were KD'd)
-Kyei
Laney_1uk wrote:
Now i'm a happy go lucky bh and am not saying this jedi cheated. But the perfect saber club is getting on my nurves now. They cannot be solo'ed by any bh..... why well in 4 seconds i got hit for about 4.3k damage.
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=305302&poll_id=0&warned=y
No time stamp but look at the fire dot. Dots every 5 seconds i believe and these attacks hit me well inside its tick so i estimate them to be around 3-4 seconds from first attack to last.
Now yes i agree that most new jedi cannot output anywhere near this damage but how i ask (even with our so called uber healing as mcm's or docs) can we even hope to stand against that.
/bow to jedi who killed me, call you self ubber if you like.
Comments welcome, and clicky please
Orran Behime (flurry)
Message Edited by Laney_1uk on 08-31-2005 12:10 PM
I agree that these "uber" pre-cu sabers need to be taken out of the game. It's a little ridiculous when a jedi hits you for over 4000 damage before you can get in your volley of attacks basically. How in the world does that put up ANY kind of a fight at all? I personally won't hunt jedi because of this...its pretty much a waste of time.
I'm happy doingnpc boss missions personally.
yep was kd'ed and armor breaked. But even so all a jedi needs to do is armor break (click once maybe twice), kd (like thats hard with saber throw lol) and then click some more buttons .... in for seconds DABOOM
Message Edited by Laney_1uk on 08-31-2005 12:17 PM
Message Edited by Laney_1uk on 08-31-2005 12:18 PM
Just curious what your armour is, it is resisting less than 17% of the attack, even after an armour break (assuming you dont have AB resist) that seems a bit low.
There are things you can do to mitigate this, invest in better armour (i would assume the Jedi has invested a ton in his LS)
-K
You dont accidentally bumb into the Jedi and go gosh. You choose to attack the Jedi and, unless you are a total spanner like the original poster - you prepare.
Lets see, Melee prof with armour break.... ooooo isnt there a 75% AB resist slice?
All sabers energy/elemental... choose the armour of your other prof (battle or recon better than assault).
Buy energy layered armour instead.
Food/drinks pre-emptivly like buffs and parawan etc. Counters like synth.
Even if you are a CM/Doc, get good stims cos you can use them in situations when you cant heal.
But as one poster said, if you get KD'd, try using the KD recovery. The only time you should be gazing at clouds while they KD+AB+PA+other is when the dreaded KD rec bug strikes (and still u can counter it)
Dumb posts about nerf sabers, nerf Combat medic, nerf rifles, nerf cloak, nerf SWG annoys the hell out of me because 90% of these posts are by people who got beaten by someone better than them and cant face it. So they say the other guy cheated, used overpowered abilities (need nerfing!) or otherwise exploited. In fact any excuse except "I'm cr@p"
You dont accidentally bumb into the Jedi and go gosh. You choose to attack the Jedi and, unless you are a total spanner like the original poster - you prepare.
Lets see, Melee prof with armour break.... ooooo isnt there a 75% AB resist slice?
All sabers energy/elemental... choose the armour of your other prof (battle or recon better than assault).
Buy energy layered armour instead.
Food/drinks pre-emptivly like buffs and parawan etc. Counters like synth.
Even if you are a CM/Doc, get good stims cos you can use them in situations when you cant heal.
But as one poster said, if you get KD'd, try using the KD recovery. The only time you should be gazing at clouds while they KD+AB+PA+other is when the dreaded KD rec bug strikes (and still u can counter it)
Dumb posts about nerf sabers, nerf Combat medic, nerf rifles, nerf cloak, nerf SWG annoys the hell out of me because 90% of these posts are by people who got beaten by someone better than them and cant face it. So they say the other guy cheated, used overpowered abilities (need nerfing!) or otherwise exploited. In fact any excuse except "I'm cr@p"
Laney_1uk wrote:
I can assure you it wasn't 10 seconds because otherwise i'd of been up by then kd bug or no. The assualt armor granted isn't the best but highlights my issue of why in the world do BH profession have assault armor as their professions main armor type. As i've already stated even if i was using 8.1 recon and steak applied half the damage and its still damm high imo. I'll try to relog and get the time stamp on the attacks but i assure you unless it was lag, I got hit with all 4 in approximately 4 seconds.
Also I used all my skills as a mcm/mbh like rooting, paralysing, debuffing and dotting. These attacks were with thryoid rupture applied and the jedi wasn't buffed!
Message Edited by Laney_1uk on 09-01-2005 12:23 AM
Well with no timestamps, its impossible to see.
Amazing how many BHs jump on the band wagon as to blame one of their own for incompetency, without even recognizing the initial point. Like it or not, the damage on that lightsaber is high.
I am one of the oldest BHs in Gorath and although I read the posts regularly, I seldom post. I consider it a waste of my time.I have seen jedi power move in the fashion of a pendulum, from the uber jedi of the past...being able to take 10-1 odds and obliterate them in seconds, to the newly reformed force branches and their specialty attacks post CU. Jedi have always been protected from the hunters, in their multiple stages of development, except for a brief period where things appeared to work correctly...and the hunters went after the weak and wounded, as all hunters do in nature. Multiple expresions of hunters existed (yes, Pre CU)....yet, once the waters settled after Post CU, the diversity of attack tactics BHswere distinguished for, wasreduced to very few combinations.
We have a big problem here, and it needs to be addressed. I don't ask for the nerfing of anything or anybody, yet I do ask for the ability to do my job as I see fit. BHs were able to do that before...not anymore. Here is my reasoning and a bit of history:
1. Day 0> SOE decides to make BHs main task to hunt jedi. Few BHs appear, because there are no marks to hunt. Still...PvP wise the LLC sees it's reign of terror. So much impact did this weapon make, that all armor after it's inception, was made to resist it's damage. A lethalheavy weapon, only wielded by hunters.
2. SOE brings jedi into game...yet does not understand quite well how to handle the situation.All BHs receive an e-mail from Vader...with the statement that all jedi are considered illegal and shall be put to death.Permadeath existed, TEF with just the activation of a glowstick, complete and total anhilation of jedi ensues. Droids didn't work, but minds did. Espionage was the way of finding where the jedi were...and treachery was their death. The BHs were doing their jobs.
3. SOE discovers that the punishment for those short lived jedi is too much...and the push to protect them starts. No seekers worked, no Arakyds worked, and if they did...you would have a non attackable mark. Permadeath is gone...and the massive grind of professions spreads like wildfire. Still...the BHs were there to stop it's advance. Demoralization of jedi set in...many quit on their search for "the force". Only few were able to survive. Holocrons had to be found, followed and professions unlocked. The grind was gargantuan...yet the jedi were few. And when they appeared...they had to deal with us.
5. The whine period starts. Now...this is a very special time, which continues up to date. After the first FanFest, jedi discovered they were a force DEVs had to reckon with. SOE bows to their needs, changing the whole concept, timeline, and system of the game...obviously in combination with the marketting department.Jedi wannabe'sand DEVs working in tandem to be able to make "everyone's dream come true". We all want to be jedi, a galaxy full of jedi. SW is about jedi. Great propaganda....yet not the game I bought (search for jedi in the printed manual...tell me what you find). BHs whine too...we finally get our requirements changed...and diversity in our profession persists. Jedi still had a force to reckon with...and padawans were so afraid...that jedi protection groups were created. BHs start to be slaughtered on mass...by gank squads defending the jedi, and the hunters respond with the same strategy. This was war. Some of us...hunted alone, and would kill as much as be killed...yet we did it with honor and our own strategies...defined by our weapons of choice and not forced by any specific template.
6. We come to CU and some months later. What has happened? 600 jedi per server and hundreds more to come, the complete collapse of the GCW (which I agree never existed, yet now is defined by the number of jedi in one guild versus another), and only very few BH templates that work against jedi. We are the underdog....understand that. It is a fact. I love the hunt, yet it is getting harder and harder each day. And we prevent nothing. We are just a nuisance now for jedi...they know that there are only a couple of viable MBH templates that can be thrown at them...and to eliminate them...as a previous post expressed...is fairly easy. Jedi Padawans cross the barriers untouched (once again), by using Kashyyk as their playgrounds. Our job is now daunting, more work than fun. The hunter has now become a collection of specialized loot..that if he/she doesn't have it...can't compete. Let's face it...pretty soon...we will have just become another meaningless profession like the Ranger, Commando, Smuggler (for goodness sake SOE...send them some love...give them SOMETHING to smuggle), Squad leader, etc. This is a new game...this is a game run by, made for, and focused on jedi.
For the fellow BHs out there that are undefeated, instead of looking down upon fallen comrades, tell them...teach them how to beat this new foe. Or at least...put up a good fight. Yet if it is based solely on specialized equipment...then the aspect of the hunt is lost. Disgracefully...and it is painfully apparent...for now, all BHs must be more healers than attackers (in essence Medic x4xx/CM 4xxx of MBH/MCM). You are facing terrible odds now....and you will learn that quickly. The great majority of missions that you will find, are from full template jedi...and they will be ready for you. They have made their money from looting the best quests and selling what they find, basically controling the economy. If they are jedi of at least 1 year...their sabers will be very powerfull...as they will have collected the best pearls and crystals money has to offer. They have perfected their techniques...due to endless training with jedi maids...found in every jedi guild. And if you don't have the best equipment, prepare to die...but at least...die knowing you confronted a much stronger and powerful foe.
SOE wanted to see what happens when you give a large number of people power beyond their control....easy, take a look at our galaxies and all the glow sticks. Happy now SOE?