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Thread: Look at this saber damage (screeny)

diepa
Wed Aug 31, 2005 1:09 pm
#1




Ok first off i was prepared buffed, ate food (mind regen, spice and steak) food.

What spice? What action food, health regen food, etc


Yep i walked up to the jedi because i knew this jedi and who he/she was. Sure i could of sat there 5 hours waiting for them to pvpbut come on who actually does that. So i entered combat knowing i'd lose because of such damage.


Now spanner i'm not, I would consider myself to be one of the better bh's on the server (flurry). But you have to admit kd takes about a seconds or 2 to get up in which time according to screen shot even if i could get up i'd of taken 1000 damage from the saber throw 1300 from the power hit. Thats 2.3k and once i stand i'm hit again for 999.

2.3k - Stim ruby Stim back at full health...What is your temp, any healing.


Look i lost I get it meetic i really really do. All i'm asking is this. How can a bh hope to survive even while he/she is buffed, spiced, HAM fooded for war.

Jedi is supposed to be 1.5x stronger, you are not supposed to walk up to jedi with inferior equipment and pound him into the dust like you do NPC's you have to plan and attack when the Jedi is Vulnerable, if you dont have patience for hunt, stick with NPC's


Buy energy layered armor instead ----- WHAT THE HELL DO YOU THINK BY BH ARMOR IS. Its energy layed but its assault armor (why the devs made us use this i don't know)

Do not hunt jedi with assault armor, 8k energy resist RECON for JEDI, just because you think the armor looks cool does not mean it is the most effective.


GET GOOD STIMS ----- Did you even see the pic, I used them right on queue while kd'ed and i still died. Don't you dare call me a spanner till you get your facts right or if you don't know them have asked about them first off.

Missed the ruby then stim again then ruby stim again..until you were full, may have given you time to regen action.






Laney_1uk
Wed Aug 31, 2005 1:14 pm
#2




AS for all the food you can't see or spice you can't see etc etc ..... I died remember screen shot taken after (come on guys use your heads)


I don't have steak applied because as i said i'd eaten my fill staying alive to debuff. ALSO guys thats after i thyroid ruptured this damm jedi !!!!!!


Thats a number of people who said ooooo use 8.1k energy resist armor. I can't i'm a MCM so there force to use 8.1k i'm gimped with low attack speed and movement.!!!! Why do i have to be a rifleman or pistoleer ? WHy is bh's profession got assault mitigation ?


Yes i used all my food and filled my guts of it trying to stay alive for more than 5 seconds while i dotted and debuffed the jedi


Jesus guys i'm the only one that things that a damage output of 4.3k every 3-4 seconds is wrong ??????????

Message Edited by Laney_1uk on 08-31-2005 01:16 PM

Meetic
Wed Aug 31, 2005 1:16 pm
#3

With so many unknowns about your build, its hard to offer advice. But a few comments I will make.

All Jedi have a weakness and you need to find it, and quick. Jedi cannot be high offence, high defence, force running, rooting cloaking gods. They can pick what they want, and have to suffer what they dont. You quote MLS/MDEF? this usually means no root or FR, so a good rifle and some control and your laughing. Parawan is amazing :-) DoTs if you have them - MCM/rifles best vs these guys IMO.

Another thing you mentioned is KD recovery taking time. Well, actually its instant. You press it and you get up. It can be delayed for a number of reasons, usually because you are still in the execution time of one of your specials and you need to wait for this to elapse because it kicks in. So if you are finding it slow to get up, you need to reduce the execution timer for your common specials. Buffs and/or a fast mod speed is the key. If you cant get the speed low (1.5-1.75 eff) then time the KDs. You can only be KD'd once every 30 secs. So once its 20-25 secs after the last KD, make damn sure you dont use some long exec special until after the KD.
diepa
Wed Aug 31, 2005 1:19 pm
#4






Laney_1uk wrote:




AS for all the food you can't see or spice you can't see etc etc ..... I died remember screen shot taken after (come on guys use your heads)


I don't have steak applied because as i said i'd eaten my fill staying alive to debuff. ALSO guys thats after i thyroid ruptured this damm jedi !!!!!!


Thats a number of people who said ooooo use 8.1k energy resist armor. I can't i'm a MCM so there force to use 8.1k i'm gimped with low attack speed and movement.!!!! Why do i have to be a rifleman or pistoleer ? WHy is bh's profession got assault mitigation ?


Yes i used all my food and filled my guts of it trying to stay alive for more than 5 seconds while i dotted and debuffed the jedi


Jesus guys i'm the only one that things that a damage output of 4.3k every 3-4 seconds is wrong ??????????


Message Edited by Laney_1uk on 08-31-2005 01:16 PM




I wanted to know food and stats, I was not saying I could not see what foods you took. Did the thyroid rupture stick? appearently not. Time stamp your messages, for all we know you were kded for 20 seconds..
Laney_1uk
Wed Aug 31, 2005 1:23 pm
#5



I'm well aware if their weaknesses i have a jedi full template myself. I'm no noob guys if your on flurry you'd know me. I just found that damage output insane and wished to comment on it.


Also even if i had 8.1k energy and steak and all the melee and defence buffs i could sustain. The DAMAGE is still there just mitigated against my food etc etc. So the saber is still the fastest and most powerful thing i've ever seen. KD instant, if your very lucky as quite often you don't know your kd'ed (lag running lol) and press an attack and get kd bugged hehe.


Look seriously guys even with all the armor and perfect foods the damage is still being outputted but mitigated. Its the damage i have issues with. Example say you gave me 8.1k resist armor and steak and we halved the damage to 2.3k every 3-4 seconds, even 2k, can you tell me a template that can withstand this for long and attack back. It'll be all the bh can do just to keep up with the healing!


Timestamp - don't know how to do, please tell me, but look at the fire dot and that will give you a reference to how fast that was. With thyroid applied he outputted that damage before the dot ticked (and well inside it infact)

Message Edited by Laney_1uk on 08-31-2005 01:24 PM

JaymzRiken
Wed Aug 31, 2005 1:31 pm
#6

people like you, are my favorite BH.


Because you give the jedi who fight me the actual thought that "oh another fotm bh/cm, easy fight" instead of running.


First off...why are you wearing assault armor? battle armor FTW if you can't use recon


its obvious to me at this point that either a) you are NOT one of the better BH on the server or your server is severely lacking in good BH's



I'm guessing you are mbh/mcm 0-0-04 pistols? in which case why are you not rooting them as well... you have a ranged KD too...


if not...it doesn't matter your template isn't to blame, your lack of knowledge about your opponents and your own template is to blame.






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diepa
Wed Aug 31, 2005 1:41 pm
#7


Timestamp messages is an option in Chat, also did you paralize, then add all de-buffs then apply dots?


I can tell you that my Jedi cant come close to hitting that fast/hard...my saber sucks.


Xalya_Shadowalker
Wed Aug 31, 2005 1:49 pm
#8

Well, to beginI'd like to make a relatively inconsequential point, which is that more recently the Devs have stated that a Padawan is only supposed to be 1x a normal profession, the 1.5x is based upon a Jedi participating in the FRS system.... but anyways...



I have a near-perfect saber and I usually hit for 1000-1500 before armor in PvP. Armorbreak is the killer.


Improved armor break reduces your armor by 65%, which brings most armor down to 18% effective. A 75% Armor Break Slice reduces the armor bread reduction to about 12%, which reduces most armor to 55% effective. This is a MASSIVE difference.


IMO, the 75% AB slice is required for Jedi Hunting.









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Nokor
Wed Aug 31, 2005 3:10 pm
#9

There is no speed exploit or anything. CM DOTs tick every 10 seconds, so the OP took 4 hits in around 10 seconds which works out as it should do.



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Laney_1uk
Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:04 am
#10





FIXED

Message Edited by Laney_1uk on 10-06-2005 03:05 AM

Wootight
Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:07 am
#11

Haha, yay, another jedi to kill me!
Wirewraith
Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:11 am
#12

(Note: Despite your attempts, you can still see the name of the jedi in your combat logs)

PLM eh?




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Ztark
Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:12 am
#13






Laney_1uk wrote:

but how i ask (even with out so called uber healing as mcm's or docs) can we even hope to stand against that.





For jedi that are powerful, it takes patience to kill them. Don't just run right to your waypoint...Stalk them a little, wait until you think they are low on force, or possibley when they go to pvp. That seems to be the only way. You'll almost never win a fair 1 on 1 fight against good saber jedi.

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