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VolvoSsixtyTsix wrote:

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ChickenPuppy wrote:

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VolvoSsixtyTsix wrote:
I agree and it drives me nuts. I had no problem with CU 'requiring' people to group for high level mobs. But when you NEED at least 2 Mdefenders for any high end dungeon it is just stupid. I was soloer pre-cu, post CU there are almost no way to take out high content mobs such as acklay, spiders, krayts.

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If you need Jedi for anything: you need to sit down and think.

*Edit* "Its not working harder, its working smarter" *Edit*

Message Edited by ChickenPuppy on 06-15-2005 01:05 AM

Message Edited by ChickenPuppy on 06-15-2005 01:05 AM

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And smaQUnes is ? Having a group of 8 rooters ? I soloed gorax as a melee character by dragging him into the lair of Mereks ... who eventually killed him. I still solo post-cu, and no I don't want to play as SOE tells me. I went to Spider Clan cave today, went all the way down without single incap. I killed level 83 queen on top, solo. Got down to the second queen ... she has 7 level 81 16k health spiders guarding her, she is level 83 with 20k health. With improved COB and armor they hit for 170 points a hit, that makes 1k damage a second. I did tried to lure her out solo, no way. Spider keep aggroing and running around aggroes more. I ended up tanking her and other 6 spiders for 3 minutes till i was full with Rubi. Stay on topic please, this is a post about needing jedi in a group, not soloing vs. grouping.

No post-cu jedi is necessary in the group. Avoid incap is must have, try going through the Geo cave without the avoid incap. Its impossible for any ranged toon. Took me 2 bottles of rubi and many FDs to get through first 2 doors. Jedi can do it with ease using avoid incap. From what the grape vine says; The number of kwis at the door is a bug, so maybe your statment should be; "Jedi are needed to get past bugs"

Message Edited by VolvoSsixtyTsix on 06-15-2005 01:36 AM

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We've done NK Necrosis without a Jedi.

NK Necrosis weeknesses are states, so root, snare, KD, electroltye drain and the fire from CM really do make his life harder.

You just need a good tank or 2, some nukes, a crowd controller and a CM on hand for rez and dots.

Also helps if at least one of you has the Rez arm just incase the CM goes down.

corvette isnt even balanced so its a moot point. its like saying you need a jedi to kill a djm npc which is obviously not balanced yet.

many jedi do make the gcw pretty lame, IF, they have decent sabers, then again why would you pvp without one? the other stuff does not need a jedi for but of course having one makes life easier.

Generally, out of principle, I like to side against the Jedi, however on this I do disagree. What prevents players w/out Jedi from completing missions is more the mindset that they need a Jedi than an actual need. I cannot count the tiems players refused to aid me in completing high-end quests because I didn't plan on having any Jedi in my group. (And the Corvette is a bad example as it is currently in horrible need of a "balance pass".)
All Jedi does is make some high-end content solo-able, but who cares, I'd rather be in a group anyway, it's just more fun. And I still can't believe the guy who said the Jedi are and end-game class... No MMORPG should have an end-game class, and as far as I'm concerned, this one doesn't.

A good tanker player with good armor can work wonders in DWB and the Corvette. It's amazing how many people switched to ranged profs instead of melee. Melee is still the tanker area...and is even better now when grouped with the right people. (SL/CMs/Docs) Since the area taunt is in swordsman...you can actually hold your own if you keep center up. (certain melee builds not designed for damage output are actually just as good as MDef is gonna be after this patch due to no chaining of AI)

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DarthSillyPants wrote:

NK Necrosis...

DWB...

Corvett...

GCW...

Thats what I can think of ATM.

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The only thing from your list that is actually true is the Corvette. And you should actually be saying Defender as ANY non-Master Defender Jedi will die even quicker than you.

As for the rest of your list, lol. I don't know what to say, maybe you just don't know how to play the game. NK-Necrosis is possibly one of things that Ranged players can kill better than ANY Jedi. DWB, last time I went there it was with a group of non-Jedi and they did fine. GCW, oh boy another "Jedi are too uber and are required to play in theGCW" complaints that have no actual facts to back it up.

So again, I agree on one of your items that you need a Defender for the Corvette because SBD are super overpowered, however, everything else in the vette is killed much quicker by a non-Jedi. Take out the SBD one hit incaps and Jedi is completely worthless in PvE lol. The day I saw a single non-Jedi take down a DJK quicker than any Jedi is the day I stopped feeling overpowered. You people need to learn how everyone is killing highend content in the new combat system, don't you people ever wonder how so many +25 ca/aa are being looted lately lol. It's just as easy as it was in the previous combat system as long as you have the right skills you do pretty much anything as a ranged player atm.

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Caelrie wrote:
You can do all those things without a Jedi.

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What Caelrie should have said was, "You and 10 friends can do all those thing without a Jedi." While it takes 3 Jedi at MOST to do any of them.

Didn't want to misquote you again and see THIS thread disappear. We have a habit of making that happen you know.

Message Edited by Tucheck on 06-15-2005 10:31 AM

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Caelrie wrote:

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HeadRoll wrote:
Caelrie wrote:
You can do all those things without a Jedi.

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Try getting past the L194 SBD without avoid incap and loot the lootspots at the Corvette

LOL @ Caelrie

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*shrug* My guildmates do it without Jedi. Perhaps you need smarter friends.

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Yo smarta$$ i don't gie a*&^% about the badges cause i already got them, i need the lootspots and there is no fraking way in Jabba's corvette to walk past a level 194 SBD without avoid incap.

And the fact that yopur friends friend who knows a friend whose friend did it is far from the truth.

And i loot them still with a guildie with avoid incap so i don't need other friends

Message Edited by FronioWalker on 06-15-2005 04:37 PM

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VolvoSsixtyTsix wrote:
I agree and it drives me nuts. I had no problem with CU 'requiring' people to group for high level mobs. But when you NEED at least 2 Mdefenders for any high end dungeon it is just stupid. I was soloer pre-cu, post CU there are almost no way to take out high content mobs such as acklay, spiders, krayts.

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WookieOgre wrote:

You people need to learn how everyone is killing highend content in the new combat system, don't you people ever wonder how so many +25 ca/aa are being looted lately lol. It's just as easy as it was in the previous combat system as long as you have the right skills you do pretty much anything as a ranged player atm.

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First of all...you could cut the elitism in you post with a chainsaw. Secondly, it is getting very old hearing from "glowy stick batters" about the ability of a ranged profession. I think you are all full of "it", and merely like to hear the sounds of your keyboards clicking away as you continue to profess to have knowledge about professions that you rarely use (IF you have them at all).

I'm really starting to resent the Jedi population. Reading the BH forums is like any Saturday night at your local hillbilly, slackjawed, red neck bar.

Redneck1: I can *kill me 4 squirrles in less then a hour...but I can't beats me no bear!

Redneck2: Ahh shucks, me a Jimmy Bo Bob, we done killed us dem 3 bears jest n'otherday.

Redneck1: Well I done tried to kill me a bear lots o time, but we only gots n these here huntin knives, and he don't like it none too much we in we's tries to git too close.

Redneck2: Well, yous all just don't know how to use yer knives is all. Here, have a look see at my knife.

Redneck1: You id-git....dat der ani't no knive. That der's a 10 guage double barreled shotgun with double aught buck.

Redneck2: So....you jest need to learn to use n yer knive as good as I done use MY knife here.

Redneck1: But'n der NOT de same.

Redneck2: Yes de is.

Redneck1: Dems feudin words.

Redneck2: You wanna step outside?

Redneck1: You gunna bring dat shotgun?

Redneck2: No...but I'm gunna bring my knife.


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Message Edited by Tucheck on 06-15-2005 10:56 AM

I have never needed a Jedi to Hunt Jedi so I guess that takes the wind out of your "Everything".

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Geauxx wrote:
I have never needed a Jedi to Hunt Jedi so I guess that takes the wind out of your "Everything".

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*Show me a level 190 Jedi that you have killed. Show me a screenshot of 4 level 90 Jedi that you have killed. Then I'll agree with you.

*edit...I can't type today.

Message Edited by Tucheck on 06-15-2005 11:01 AM

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Tucheck wrote:

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Geauxx wrote:
I have never needed a Jedi to Hunt Jedi so I guess that takes the wind out of your "Everything".

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*Show me a level 190 Jedi that you have killed. Show me a screenshot of 4 level 90 Jedi that you have killed. Then I'll agree with you.

*edit...I can't type today.

Message Edited by Tucheck on 06-15-2005 11:01 AM

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The only thing my MBH/Carbineer hasn't been able to do on that list is the DWB? Done corvette, it's suicidal, but doable nonetheless (with a friend or two as decoys, of course). Geo cave, kwis are bugged, aside from that QUITE easy to get to and kill the Ack. What else... DJM? Yep, beat those. Parwan and terrain negotiation > any critter in the wilds. Necrosis? Can't do him alone, but I don't know a defender who uses avoid who can either, burns too much force. Defenders can tank without it, but for that matter so can a dedicated melee tank.