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Thread: jedi runs. success or failure?

Durzel
Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:49 pm
#14

You can't really stop someone cloaking under the current system. Unless you are some freak TKM MBH then you are going to be wanting to kite them for the entire fight. Kiting them means they are at least 20m away at all times, which is the activation distance for Cloak. It has a very low Force cost for activation too, and the drain is easily mitigated by Channel.

Bottom line - unless you can predict exactly when they are going to cloak and remain within 20m (whilst not putting yourself in range of their melee attacks - difficult with lag) you are going to get this happening all the time.



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SWG_Miriam
Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:52 pm
#15






Durzel wrote:
You can't really stop someone cloaking under the current system. Unless you are some freak TKM MBH then you are going to be wanting to kite them for the entire fight. Kiting them means they are at least 20m away at all times, which is the activation distance for Cloak. It has a very low Force cost for activation too, and the drain is easily mitigated by Channel.

Bottom line - unless you can predict exactly when they are going to cloak and remain within 20m (whilst not putting yourself in range of their melee attacks - difficult with lag) you are going to get this happening all the time.




i'm one of the rare bounty hunters who does not need to kite a jedi. i stay in melee range all the time and kill jedi fast.


it's the reason why i have the highest jedi kill count across all the servers. it's also the reason why i am the greatest. kiting is for pansies.



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Dlek_Krego
Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:57 pm
#16






imoortalknight wrote:


lol well i couldn't care less about the jabba's orders, or the 200k lol. that's just in the movies. however i think in the mind, the bh would the winner, jedi sees the bh as an opponent he can't fight. so he runs

Message Edited by imoortalknight on 11-01-2005 10:51 PM





But see, that is not involved in "the hunt."


If all you want to do is to see if you can defeat the Jedi, stand in starports and duel them, and you can get the same effect...


But when you take a mission.... Just like a standard lair mission, Unless you get a "mission complete" and credits in your pocket, you did not complete your mission...and anything less than that is a failure.


And to get the payout, you don't have to "defeat" the Jedi... the best hunters wait and let the JEdi do the work for them...as in they wait til they can catch them already in combat, low on health, low on force, or incapped...and get the Deathblow.


If all you want to know is if you can defeat him, you can find that out with a simple duel... but when you take a mission, it all comes down to the DB... not the fight.


Message Edited by Dlek_Krego on 11-01-2005 07:57 PM





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Jozhur
Tue Nov 01, 2005 9:05 pm
#17






SWG_Miriam wrote:

although it cannot count as a "kill", it is still a "win by forfeit".






Ahhh...now I see how you're "teh greatest"...you're counting all the runners too. Well, hell...boost my count by 15!! WOOT!! I ROCK!! I'M OOBER!! TEH POOR WIDDLE JEDI ARE SCARED OF ME!!!!!!!!





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Jozhur
Tue Nov 01, 2005 9:08 pm
#18






SWG_Miriam wrote:


i'm one of the rare bounty hunters who does not need to kite a jedi. i stay in melee range all the time and kill jedi fast.


it's the reason why i have the highest jedi kill count across all the servers. it's also the reason why i am the greatest. kiting is for pansies.






Oh yeah...oh mighty one, what is your temp anyway? Somehow I missed that in all of your self proclaimed glory?


Or...is it soooo OOBER, that you don't want to share, lest you create another fotm?





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SWG_Miriam
Tue Nov 01, 2005 9:14 pm
#19






Jozhur wrote:


Or...is it soooo OOBER, that you don't want to share, lest you create another fotm?






short answer: yes.


long answer: yes, but even if i told you what it was it still takes a great measure of skill and intelligence to use my template. simply telling it to you would be akin to putting a .357 magnum into the hands of a monkey. i am not prepared to do that.





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wildcard1973
Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:50 pm
#20






Jozhur wrote:





SWG_Miriam wrote:


i'm one of the rare bounty hunters who does not need to kite a jedi. i stay in melee range all the time and kill jedi fast.


it's the reason why i have the highest jedi kill count across all the servers. it's also the reason why i am the greatest. kiting is for pansies.






Oh yeah...oh mighty one, what is your temp anyway? Somehow I missed that in all of your self proclaimed glory?


Or...is it soooo OOBER, that you don't want to share, lest you create another fotm?








It requires putting P-ups on your weapons and tranfering servers a few times. Then getting enough CM to outheal any damage a Jedi can do, coupled with slapping as many debuffs on them as possible.



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SWG_Miriam
Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:57 pm
#21






wildcard1973 wrote:





Jozhur wrote:





SWG_Miriam wrote:


i'm one of the rare bounty hunters who does not need to kite a jedi. i stay in melee range all the time and kill jedi fast.


it's the reason why i have the highest jedi kill count across all the servers. it's also the reason why i am the greatest. kiting is for pansies.






Oh yeah...oh mighty one, what is your temp anyway? Somehow I missed that in all of your self proclaimed glory?


Or...is it soooo OOBER, that you don't want to share, lest you create another fotm?








It requires putting P-ups on your weapons and tranfering servers a few times. Then getting enough CM to outheal any damage a Jedi can do, coupled with slapping as many debuffs on them as possible.





this whole server transfer-pup urban myth thing is getting really, really old. don't you think that it's odd that the only people in the whole of SWG who has even heard of this transfer-pup thing are two jedi on starsider who also happen to get owned by me each time i complete their bounty mission? seriously. don't you think it's odd that no one else on any other server or on any other profession board is complaining about the so-called transfer-pup thing except for those same starsider jedi? ROFL.


man, the reason why my weapons hit you and that other n00b starsider jedi is because you both are not master defenders, plus i have 750+ accuracy whenever i spank you. ROFL. you two need to learn how to play your templates better. ROFL.



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Niccolado
Wed Nov 02, 2005 2:22 am
#22



imoortalknight wrote:
you get his health down to 200 a few times, eventually he runs, cloaks and goes inside his house. do you consider that success or failure? since you already know you can beat him, and you are probably going to waste 1 hour of his time because he will be too scared to come out





If you the BH did not get paid for the job, you failed.

For the jedi its easier. He can win by getting away from you alive, either by beating you, or run away from you. No matter what he choses: he won that battle




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Stecoli
Wed Nov 02, 2005 2:23 am
#23

If you dont kill a jedi its clearly a failure in your mission , however there is no way a jedi can escape , becuase ranged are so much more powerful than jedi and have better special moves..........


A-Slave
Wed Nov 02, 2005 2:30 am
#24

I think its a win.... not in credits...but in something far more valuable to a bounty hunter! Reputation!!


Each jedi that you force to run is a boost in a bounty hunters reputation...you start off as an unknown, but slowly from taking player missions you start to gain fame (not just in winning, but HOW you win also...too much trash talk doesnt help). In the end, your character advances by being feared and respected....when you walk into a cantina and all the jedi inside target you and /duel to check if you are after them...you have won.


When the jedi start to talk to eachother and warn eachother about you...you have won.


When random jedi start sending you tells for duels to "test themselves" ...you have won.
Tsemarah
Wed Nov 02, 2005 2:52 am
#25

I agree with the above poster. How fondly I remind the geo days where, upon entering the geo cave, the spatial spam of grinding jedi would read: "**edit**, its fura!" "Red Widow is here guys, run!" "BH BH BHB H" OMG RUN"



Then seeing nearly 12 jedi trampling each other to head to the exit, and my poor mark noticing he is the only one left standing, and I am looking at him.



Aaah, sweet days. I so cant get used to the heal spam ftw type of new bh'ing that is around now





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da-bro
Wed Nov 02, 2005 2:57 am
#26

Someone in this thread mentioned boxing and baseball, which has absolutely nothing to do with Bounty Hunter missions. The only thing in SWG that can be compared to the boxing or baseball analogy is a duel.

With Bounty Hunting your mission is to kill the mark. If the mark is not corpsed by yourself, you personally have failed your mission. You may have won the duel or combat aspect of the mission but unless your mark is dead, then you have completely and utterly failed to do your mission.



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