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Althus_Alen wrote:

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HyprHypo wrote:

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Chicken_Chaser wrote:

I wouldnt say GOD MODE

but it shouldn't be easy to take a knight down 1v1

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Where is your logic, the movies? Skill should determine the ending, not the combat profession.

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His logic is the Dev's logic. A Knight is 1.5X the power of a regular char. A BH uses their personal skill to narrow or remove that gap and determine the ending.

So the poster is correct, in this game it should not be easy to take down a Knight with a regular char, all other things being equal.

On the original topic, if I knew it was a computer problem I wouldn't kill them. If I suspect they just pulled the plug, I would kill them.

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Part of the BH skills I referred to are not PvP skills. They are stalking skills. Being patient and waiting for the right moment and the like. That helps level the playing field even before any individual PvP skills are brought into play. It can even tip the balance totally to the BH, such as catching a Jedi almost out of force/health from PvE or PvP.

Of course I agree that evenly matched players (rather than characters) having a duel will end up with the Jedi beating the BH most times, but a BH mission is not a duel. It's a "get the job done whatever it takes" mission (within game rules of course).

BH need to accept that they are not meant to win every, or even probably most, missions they undertake. Expect to die, otherwise you are just asking for BH to be God Mode.

The last portion of your post assumes every player gravitates to the path of least resistance. Some of us don't as it happens, and like the challenge of hunting tough targets. If the players who are BH to cause easy XP loss to other players and make a pile of cash leave to become Jedi or whatever, I can't say I will be too sorry to see them go.

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Ricse wrote:

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Chicken_Chaser wrote:

But where do you guys draw the line?

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The line is just a dot to me....

only kidding..) It's never happened to me... I've certainly had jedi run out of laggy areas before they turn to fight. I think on occasion I've taken advantage of jedi's slow connections in cases where they're running, they shuttle somewhere and I follow and end up loading before them, and get fast strikes in as soon as they become attackable again.

LD is nasty, but it is part of the game. I'd probably draw the line at abusing the poor connection of a jedi who was actually brave enough to try to fight. I'd have less sympathy otherwise, but it's a grey area. (I'd say losing my BARC would annoy me just enough - and yes, I know they're very easily repairable...)

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heh taking advantage of their connection is prolly a good tactic cuz they are at a weak point. Most people have cable or better tho, so it doesn't really affect them like it does a 56k'er. Try loading into Theed on a saturday afternoon, or worse, Dantooine, MO on dial-up. The lag is soooo horrendous And the BH had no problem with the BARC, and I only destroyed it cuz he left it out and I needed to get out of there without him following me

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HyprHypo wrote:
Because Jedi are god mode atm i kill them however.

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A contradiction in terms, if I ever saw one.

First you claim that they are in god mode (they can't be killed), then you say you kill them by whatever means.

Just goes to show that jedi are not god mode. Currently they are level to a dual elite combat profession. But only if they have defender. Other templates are even weaker than a regular profession. BH's just refuse to see it because they dont win 9 out of 10 times.

Message Edited by Thassk on 07-10-2005 05:30 AM

The going (LD) problem doesn't really count as an excuse. Like someone said above, "It's not my problem you have a connection fault."

If i got killed by a BH due to going LD mid-fight i'd expect to be in the cloner afterwards. Sure as hell i'd kill them if they went (LD). They came for me after all. Why expect them to do you a favour you wouldn't grant them?

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Chicken_Chaser wrote:

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HyprHypo wrote:
Because Jedi are god mode atm i kill them however.

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I wouldnt say GOD MODE

but it shouldn't be easy to take a knight down 1v1

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Out of interest why?

Bh cannot be completly grinded AFK

Jedi can

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Chicken_Chaser wrote:

OK, I am not coming here to whine or anything first off, I just wanna know where everyone decides to draw the line. Do you kill a LD Jedi or not? Tonight I was out killing aakuans, whena blue dot comes along and opens fire. He roots me, then tries to kite me, so when the root where off I turned the other way and blasted his BARC into oblivion, and activated Improved FR to escape. I am all out of force, so its run or die. I get a few tells about the BARC (nuthing bad) and I get a few tells about runnin away (what, knights can't run either? ). I told the BH I had low force and a really unstable connection, and I had LD'd a ton earlier that night. I play on 56k so I LD frequently, but lo and behold I LD right after that last tell and my toon is sitting in the world helpless because of my comp problems. Needless to say, I came back in in the cloner.

But where do you guys draw the line? Do you kill an LD jedi, even if it's a computer problem?

Message Edited by Chicken_Chaser on 07-10-2005 02:41 AM

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I wouldn't think twice about it mate, infactI think after patch 20 we will see alot of grinding jedi with dodgy internet connections

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Chicken_Chaser wrote:

OK, I am not coming here to whine or anything first off, I just wanna know where everyone decides to draw the line. Do you kill a LD Jedi or not? Tonight I was out killing aakuans, whena blue dot comes along and opens fire. He roots me, then tries to kite me, so when the root where off I turned the other way and blasted his BARC into oblivion, and activated Improved FR to escape. I am all out of force, so its run or die. I get a few tells about the BARC (nuthing bad) and I get a few tells about runnin away (what, knights can't run either? ). I told the BH I had low force and a really unstable connection, and I had LD'd a ton earlier that night. I play on 56k so I LD frequently, but lo and behold I LD right after that last tell and my toon is sitting in the world helpless because of my comp problems. Needless to say, I came back in in the cloner.

But where do you guys draw the line? Do you kill an LD jedi, even if it's a computer problem?

Message Edited by Chicken_Chaser on 07-10-2005 02:41 AM

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Message Edited by Draaco111 on 07-10-2005 08:44 AM

it does all depend on the person running the toon and most likely either way you will be killed... It may be wrong but thats just how it is. If you know you have such a bad connection then maybe you should upgrade or not play your jedi till you have a better connection

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Chicken_Chaser wrote:

OK, I am not coming here to whine or anything first off, I just wanna know where everyone decides to draw the line. Do you kill a LD Jedi or not? Tonight I was out killing aakuans, whena blue dot comes along and opens fire. He roots me, then tries to kite me, so when the root where off I turned the other way and blasted his BARC into oblivion, and activated Improved FR to escape. I am all out of force, so its run or die. I get a few tells about the BARC (nuthing bad) and I get a few tells about runnin away (what, knights can't run either? ). I told the BH I had low force and a really unstable connection, and I had LD'd a ton earlier that night. I play on 56k so I LD frequently, but lo and behold I LD right after that last tell and my toon is sitting in the world helpless because of my comp problems. Needless to say, I came back in in the cloner.

But where do you guys draw the line? Do you kill an LD jedi, even if it's a computer problem?

Message Edited by Chicken_Chaser on 07-10-2005 02:41 AM

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I respect the fact that you are not whining and to answer your question, yes I would complete the mission... but only because I would not allow the first Jedi I found in soooo long to get away.

You see on my server I look for Jedi worth between 140k - 170k, that is ideal and within my skill level to defeat, but most of the time I can literally spend hours looking for a Jedi who is not in his house or hiding on Kash. So yesterday when I played, after about 3 hours of not being able to find a Jedi withing my range I decided to just try and find any Jedi whether they were a newbie paddy worth 50k or not. Anyways heh maybe i am whining

Lol but ya I would kill the Jedi cause who know when I will find another thats not hiding on Kash or AFK in his house.

Chicken_Chaser,

That's a good question. As someone stated above, it's really the judgement of the person behind the toon. I would say that close to 95% of players, regardless of profession, would take advantage of the LD and deliver the deathblow.

I think that I'm a pretty fair player (for example, if I destroy a mark's ride, I pay for it at the end of the fight whether I win or lose.) and I would probably kill the mark ifhe/she LD'd in the middle of the fight. The only scenario that I can think of where I wouldn't is if I had some personal history with the mark that was positive (and honorable) then I might give them a break. If the mark was LD prior to the fight and I caught them logging out, no question - dead Jedi.

If Jedi should be more powerful than BH's - load-kills, LD-kills, aggro-ing huge mobs to 'tag-team' the target and so on...should be expected asviable and necessary tactics.

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