Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: The mindset of some players and how it effects US
im editing the pointless arguing and rebuttles
Message Edited by Thassk on 10-19-2005 03:43 PM
Kresh_Azzo wrote:
Not Jedi:
No, don't nerf BH, you guys are fine. Don't nerf BH loot, it's fine.
Just share the damn wealth already. The BH loot advantage is completely, utterly, and undeniably unbalanced. I can solo 15 LvL 85 nightsisters and barely walk away with a jar of bugs. I can run 15 BH missions and be guarenteed at *least* some nicish smuggler supplies, and maybe a AA/CA. Please don't tell me I am wrong here either. I just left BH 2 weeks ago to return to TKM. The BH loot imbalance is actually very bad for this game and the economy. So many BH don't even run player missions, and are only doing the profession for the mission loot. If you want to thin out your numbers, then SOE needs to right this disparity.
i cant argue this point .. being a BH does = having an upper hand loot wise ...but this was done to offset complaints brought on by pub 20 and 21
For the second time, bh /mcm IS FOTM WAKE UP DUDE! why? because its the most powerful. dont even sit there, like and say it aint. it is.so dont put the blame on jedi. another thing is do you know how many pve jedi there are? and all they want to do is rp?
there are ALOT. ALOT. so that means its not about the power for everyone. and you are plain blind if you think that mcm/mbh temp aint about the power, youre a dot god and it is.
Wake up man...
Thassk wrote:
Kresh_Azzo wrote:
Not Jedi:
No, don't nerf BH, you guys are fine. Don't nerf BH loot, it's fine.
Just share the damn wealth already. The BH loot advantage is completely, utterly, and undeniably unbalanced. I can solo 15 LvL 85 nightsisters and barely walk away with a jar of bugs. I can run 15 BH missions and be guarenteed at *least* some nicish smuggler supplies, and maybe a AA/CA. Please don't tell me I am wrong here either. I just left BH 2 weeks ago to return to TKM. The BH loot imbalance is actually very bad for this game and the economy. So many BH don't even run player missions, and are only doing the profession for the mission loot. If you want to thin out your numbers, then SOE needs to right this disparity.
i cant argue this point .. being a BH does = having an upper hand loot wise ...but this was done to offset complaints brought on by pub 20 and 21
Trust me, having recently dropped BH to return to my favored template, I have to say that they are not overpowered. Especially not by themselves (without other prof modifiers). They are very versatile though, which I enjoyed. My favorite thing about being a BH was scout! You will get no argument from me on the power structure, or where Bh fits in...
Physkoris wrote:
If you have any of the skillpoints on a character you're entitled to have an opinion about it. Why? Because you've obviously played the profession and know what is right and wrong with it. I'd point my finger at players who have never played Jedi who call for their nerfs time and again as the bad ones.
agreed. thassk just make a character level1 on farstar and put funki on your friendslist we can meet up and settle this argument.
You assume too much again I do kill jedi easily. You act as if you know me but i know you have never once met me. I never once asked for a nerf in thatthread I think you should read it more carefully. I asked for an improvement. I only wish you were on farstar server so I can prove to you how easily I can kill jedi with funki my bh alt. In fact I'm going to invite you to make a character on farstar and I will meet up with you to prove to you that I am the real deal with no hidden agenda. what do you say? and I am not saying I am amazing at pvp either just saying how easy I find it now. also I would like to say I tried 4 different templates on my jedi not by copying other people by trying new things with my jedi and I am still not happy just yet.
Thassk wrote:
steveybabes wrote:
first of all I will admit to being one of these players you talk about to an extent. I don't roleplay it's just not my thing, I'm more of the pvp'er that wants to be strong. If someone finds a good template that seems strong before me I will try that template. I got a jedi because I was quite simply gettingkilled a lotby jedi (pre cu)so I wanted to get on an even playing field.And jedi were always in the front of a battlefield and that's exactly where I wanted to be. Then after all the nerfs and the constant grind of jedi templates I decided to leave my jedi and play my unlocked character who was mbh pistols at the time. I don't like the BH npc missions, I guess it bores me very easily and only the determined should get this kind of loot which IMHO is the way it should be. Loot shouldn't come from standing in akuan caves hitting low level mobs or looting the borgle caves. Ive only got my loot for the most part from buying it from credits I made with my chef alt. I have no roleplaying heart or soul as you put it but is that so bad? I only play the game for its great crafting system and it's fantastic pvp And I like some of the pve quests and bunkers. And for me the whole point of the game is to better yourself in whatever you like to do. I never made BH because someone else had it I made BH coz it made my pistoleer stronger. but I admit i'm one of the people you speak of, I have copied peoples templates to stand my ground better in pvp but never asked for nerfs in jedi. I just move from one proff to the other if i feel it isnt effective enough anymore.
I dont think BH will be canabilized tho, at least I hope not.
so then why cry and ask for nerfs agaisnt bh? the only reason you do it now is because as you said you are one of the people i talk about .. well this time .. your "copy cat, follow the trendy masses"ways got you stuck in a dead end where you grinded like a zombie and dont have an "i win" button ...
perhaps instead of flocking to jedi as most did you should have waited and tested the waters to see if it was for you ...
perhaps you shouldnt copy other playersdecisionsand try to think for yourself .. maybe the inability to create your own tactics is what plagues you in PVP .. when you copy other peoples tactics you are only copying a mold .. not the mindset, or understanding,not theplaystyle it also takes to master that template ...they chose that template because it was best for them, not best for everyone...
if you dont like jedi or think there are templates stronger than jedi .. play your main toon as that template and stop picketing and disrupting the forums with nerf requests ...
did it ever occur to the jedi who are having problems in PVP against BH they just arent good at PVP? because surely not all jedi feel the way you do .. some jedi admit and revel in the fact their templates even after the nerfs are still stronger ...
im not saying i'm a great PVP'er, but i know as a BH if i find hunting jedi too difficult .. i can stop hunting ... but the day you became jedi .. and subscribed for a free alt and the alpha template you ALSO subscribed to being hunted in forced PVP .. if you cant hack it now .. dont play your jedi as your main ...
but your inability to accept you may not be good at PVP doesnt mean you should yell and shout at SOE, triyng to get them to DESTROY other proffessions just so lesser skilled jedi can have 100% win records agaisnt BH ...
not all of us are good at PVP .. but SOE shouldnt give us i win buttons .... we just have to accept the fact we are doing something wrong and try to change our tactics and learn .... gain skill ourselves .. not expect SOE to give us help as if we were handicapped players ...
and maybe im wrong but i really doubt, for some reason, you went and killed jedi as easily and as many as you did ....i think that statement is just a prelude to your "nerf BH" argument and you are using that statement as foundation so people cannot attack your trueagenda .. and cloudtheir ability to see your truemotives and real situation ...im getting the impression with your passion you are a jedi just looking to put other classes further beneath you ...
its easy for everyone to come into the forums and say " i killed every jedi i ever fought with incredible ease" and its another story to go out and actually do it ..
Message Edited by Thassk on 10-19-2005 11:16 AM
okay dude. first off, youre WRONG when people want to nerf bh. As someone posted before, its the cm and healing. So the issue is not BH at all, as BH need no changes at all. In fact, i don even see why nerfing bh is an issue at all.
The truth is, even tho you dont want to admit is, post cu jedi are really having it tough as they can not even equal the damage their opponent puts out. that is a non debateable fact (premium crystals drop, but are as common and mando armor).
Everyone does not copy everyone elses template. If they do, its too bad. My temp is somewhat unique and fits me.
Not to mention, dont hate cuz they have a free slot for a new char and you do not. You can not tell anyone what to do with their char regardless.
Message Edited by Digitalalchemyzt on 10-19-2005 12:19 PM
No, don't nerf BH, you guys are fine. Don't nerf BH loot, it's fine.
Just share the damn wealth already. The BH loot advantage is completely, utterly, and undeniably unbalanced. I can solo 15 LvL 85 nightsisters and barely walk away with a jar of bugs. I can run 15 BH missions and be guarenteed at *least* some nicish smuggler supplies, and maybe a AA/CA. Please don't tell me I am wrong here either. I just left BH 2 weeks ago to return to TKM. The BH loot imbalance is actually very bad for this game and the economy. So many BH don't even run player missions, and are only doing the profession for the mission loot. If you want to thin out your numbers, then SOE needs to right this disparity.
alpha template?
my sides hurt from laughing......jedi, alpha template.....lol
BH took me3 days to grind, jedi took me 2 years, hmmm, who should be the stronger template