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Thread: removing the names and payout is plain stupid

MasterMind00
Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:12 pm
#14

agree. Certain "offenders" require more personal attention, and a slew of other problems..hunting a guildmate etc..etc
Okiv
Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:39 pm
#15



I think if a Jedi makes it to a house, fair play. A BH should not give them the opportunity to run, or should at least attack when theyre not out near their safe house on dantouine.



What abuse can the mariage thing open up for? Please don't think I'm arguing for the sake of it. If this idea is proven to be crap to me I'll stop plugging it etc.

Message Edited by Okiv on 07-05-2005 01:40 PM



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Quiet420
Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:43 pm
#16






lbfoofoo wrote:

Think of it this way: You are looking through the wants ads for a job and the ad says "Wanted one worker for job with pay but we won't tell you your job title and your salary until the day you start"


Now seriously only a complete retard would apply for that job, oh wait thats how SOE hired thier devs ROFL.


Seriously would you really take a job not knowing what you would be doing or how much you would be getting paid? HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!! I can see it now, you show up thinking you are going to be a 40 mil a year ceo and it turns out you are changing bed pans for the ceos of SOE for 5.50 and hour.





but the jedi are supposed to be in hiding...and 20 other bh whines that would give you no reason to know the identity...point is, as a profession, bh's have griefed and harrassed players for far too long, and finally will be fixed


sorry to the good ones, but you should have made a better attempt to keep the scumbags in check
Okiv
Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:45 pm
#17

How can one member of a profession 'keep others in check' ? The onesamong us who do enjoy this game and play BH because its fun and not to grief others have denounced using exploits and acting like a moron in every thread its been suggested.



Using your logic we could say that all jedi have kash exploited and abused bugs such as the house TEF not working and should therefore be banned.



Your post wasn't constructive in any way and your argument falls to pieces the moment you take a second look at it.



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"Duh 2 th3 unuasl number of Jedi n Krepshyk we couldn't code to find yours." Cheers dan the dev.
WaerbGloofin
Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:51 pm
#18






Okiv wrote:

How can one member of a profession 'keep others in check' ? The onesamong us who do enjoy this game and play BH because its fun and not to grief others have denounced using exploits and acting like a moron in every thread its been suggested.



Using your logic we could say that all jedi have kash exploited and abused bugs such as the house TEF not working and should therefore be banned.



Your post wasn't constructive in any way and your argument falls to pieces the moment you take a second look at it.




And you accuse me of flaming? What a hypocrit!




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Tamianx
Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:52 pm
#19






Okiv wrote:



I think if a Jedi makes it to a house, fair play. A BH should not give them the opportunity to run, or should at least attack when theyre not out near their safe house on dantouine.



What abuse can the mariage thing open up for? Please don't think I'm arguing for the sake of it. If this idea is proven to be crap to me I'll stop plugging it etc.


Message Edited by Okiv on 07-05-200501:40 PM






The issue is preferential treatment (master/appren) that it opens. If a small group of players (such as me) are playing and have no 'knights', jsut a few jedi and a few norm professions that enjoy playing together then they can not take advantage of that relationship (both the master/apren nor the group of friends hunting together).


Further, taking that example and say we go out and meet a few knights .. what would the insentive be to set up that relationship should they not share same guild -AND- odds are they are going to help their own guildmates first.


Lastly, ignoring the above .. think of the 'pay me and ill master you' type sitautions that it opens ... there are alot of good reasons for it, but can think of just as many that can open it to abuse. A staged TEF (BH group can get shared TEF based upon numbers of Jedi group wanting to help the Jedi the BH has a mark for) might be a more appropriate means (this would work both ways ... keeping numbers equal) to address 'support' to the mark.


Okiv
Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:53 pm
#20

Point out the flame?



And go to dictionary.com or something and check out what hypocrisy means. You've tried to call me one twice now in other threads. Either take up whatever personal grief you have with me in private messages or kindly stop tailgating me into topics just to fail miserably at pulling my replies to pieces.





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www.bountyhuntersalliance.net

"Duh 2 th3 unuasl number of Jedi n Krepshyk we couldn't code to find yours." Cheers dan the dev.
WaerbGloofin
Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:55 pm
#21






Okiv wrote:

Point out the flame?



And go to dictionary.com or something and check out what hypocrisy means. You've tried to call me one twice now in other threads. Either take up whatever personal grief you have with me in private messages or kindly stop tailgating me into topics just to fail miserably at pulling my replies to pieces.






Geesh...sensitive we are! Many buttons you have to push.




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lbfoofoo
Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:58 pm
#22






Tamianx wrote:



In addition, the TEF fix is a huge benifit to the BH (though if a Jedi does not attack they shill should be able to enter a house . not sure I like it but with the changes it may be necessary.





If the jedi could still enter a house without attacking back then why bring back the tef at all? If the jedi could enter a house without attacking back 9 times out of 10 the jedi will still run into a house. If you don't beleive that then you don't hunt enough jedi.

Quiet420
Tue Jul 05, 2005 2:05 pm
#23






Okiv wrote:

How can one member of a profession 'keep others in check' ? The onesamong us who do enjoy this game and play BH because its fun and not to grief others have denounced using exploits and acting like a moron in every thread its been suggested.



Using your logic we could say that all jedi have kash exploited and abused bugs such as the house TEF not working and should therefore be banned.



Your post wasn't constructive in any way and your argument falls to pieces the moment you take a second look at it.






let me ask you....do you pick your marks to stop them from progressing? do you take non-knight missions, because theyre an easy target? do you choose marks because you know they are in active combat and want to cut off their assistance so their easy to take down? did you ever sit with a buddy at a bh term trying to get the same targets mission so you would have a 2 on 1 advantage, not by chance but by plan? how about adding their name to your "friend" list so you can monitor if they are online? ever send a Jedi a tell for no other reason than that you saw their name on the terms?


I ask because 95% of the active hunter BH population does these things and very few even think twice about the fact that there is a real live person on the other end that doesnt spend hours with the sole purpose of tearing others down through the use of cheap tricks and broken mechanics. the only thing I would adjust in regards to the changes is that rebels and imperials should not appear on the terms for BH's of the same faction, for simplicities state...meaning rebs can only hunt neutrals and imps, imps can only hunt neutrals and rebs, and neutrals can hunt anyone.

Message Edited by Quiet420 on 07-05-2005 07:17 PM

Tamianx
Tue Jul 05, 2005 3:42 pm
#24






lbfoofoo wrote:






Tamianx wrote:



In addition, the TEF fix is a huge benifit to the BH (though if a Jedi does not attack they shill should be able to enter a house . not sure I like it but with the changes it may be necessary.





If the jedi could still enter a house without attacking back then why bring back the tef at all? If the jedi could enter a house without attacking back 9 times out of 10 the jedi will still run into a house. If you don't beleive that then you don't hunt enough jedi.







The issue is that the Jedi could attack and still enter a house. This was an exploit (give ya hint, I aint a BH but agree with you). I am concerned that if you are sitting in your house that a BH can TEF you by some means (if read the patch notes you will see what I mean .. its bit sketchy). I also think that there is issue with full templated BH attacking low end Paddies that no longer have a means to escape. However, please read the second part to that and as stated 'not sure I like it but witht he changes it maybe necessary' as honestly got to see the full impact before really form opinion there.



Rinia
Wed Jul 06, 2005 12:00 am
#25

Removal of name and payout is absolutly rediculous. If one is trying to stay with canon (which i know swg doesnt fall but im just sayin) then how many times do you think Boba Fett took a bounty without knowing his name or how much he was going to get paid? NONE.

It's part of the hunt. Price equates to difficulty. By knowing the price you know how difficult they could be and prepare accordingly. Knowing their name is also part of the hunt. Asking around to get any info on the person. Where the grind, what their template is. Anything to help you complete your bounty.

Sure, it may remove player griefing but the jedi CHOOSE to get on the terms by grinding in a group. Don't tell me that it is IMPOSSIBLE to grind solo. I'll call BS on that because i have done it before. YES, POST CU. The price you pay for not getting on the terms is time. Boo hoo. So you cant grind your jedi to full temp completly afk in a week or two.

This is ludacris... i cant believe they are actually considering removing the names because of all the whining fkin jedi.



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lbfoofoo
Wed Jul 06, 2005 12:03 am
#26






Rinia wrote:

This is ludacris... i cant believe they are actually considering removing the names because of all the whining fkin jedi.



hmm do you have to become jedi master to unlock fkin jedi ROFL. I wonder what types of skills an fkin jedi would have lol

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