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Thread: Using Force Powers While Cloaked...
I use cloak as a defensive measure. it forces people like you to stay in range of my "big guns"
Cloak works as intended, whether in master box or not by taking cloak you're losing on something else. you still get your element of suprise by the first shot, thats it.
Anything after that is down to your wits and tactics, if you believe the Jedi was exploiting cloak to Attack while cloaked then report them
Force cloak still allows non-combat moves to be performed any damage attack performed will negate that cloak, plus it has a cooldown timer on it to prevent overuse, it's a tricky tactic to use in combat and I normally prefer to use my force to make the BH bleed from places they never knew they had, but each to their own.
ShaikeRamjet wrote:
A cloaker should not be able to use any other force powers while cloaked, especially force regen. They can stay perpetually cloaked. The other night, I was in a PvP battle where a cloaked Jedi was using an exploit to attack me while cloaked. If he were not allowed to use any powers while cloaked, this exploit wouldn't happen.
As cloak is, it is way too overpowering. I can track my bounty and as soon as I attack from range, he cloaks and is gone. The jedi then can force regen, pop a bunch of food and hit his Booster Blue... and I no longer have first strike capabilities. It was stated by the devs that what makes a BH able to be 1vs1 with a full temp Jedi is our first strike capabilities. If that is taken away from us... then what do we have?
Bottom line is... a Jedi should not be able to use force powers while cloaked.
Whaa! Want a blankie?
Cloak isn't overpowering, you just need to know how to attack them.
ShaikeRamjet wrote:
A cloaker should not be able to use any other force powers while cloaked, especially force regen. They can stay perpetually cloaked. The other night, I was in a PvP battle where a cloaked Jedi was using an exploit to attack me while cloaked. If he were not allowed to use any powers while cloaked, this exploit wouldn't happen.
As cloak is, it is way too overpowering. I can track my bounty and as soon as I attack from range, he cloaks and is gone. The jedi then can force regen, pop a bunch of food and hit his Booster Blue... and I no longer have first strike capabilities. It was stated by the devs that what makes a BH able to be 1vs1 with a full temp Jedi is our first strike capabilities. If that is taken away from us... then what do we have?
Bottom line is... a Jedi should not be able to use force powers while cloaked.
Flame away.
If the jedi knew u were there and cloaked, you gave up your first strike. Also you are full of poop.
The Jedi knew I was their only after the first shot. The Jedi actually waited until I was about to leave... I pull out my speeder and as soon as I pulled it out, he decloaked and destroyed my speeder and then attacked me. As soon as I start gaining the upper hand he cloaks again... and force regens. He can keep that up indefinitely. There is no way to win against it. He can't kill me, I definitely can't kill him... so I have to abort the mission.
So for the sake of someone getting cloak, I am unable to complete a mission on them. Then you have greivers who use the exploit to torment a would be attacker. Seriously, Feign Death was nerfed for the sole purpose that people could use it and completely escape death. And now... Cloakers get the ability to escape death and regen their force all at the same time... and get a first attack on a Bounty Hunter.
And yes, it is a first attack since I can no longer target them, and they can target me and initiate the attack. By the way... exactly how am I "full of poop?"
ShaikeRamjet wrote:
The Jedi knew I was their only after the first shot. The Jedi actually waited until I was about to leave... I pull out my speeder and as soon as I pulled it out, he decloaked and destroyed my speeder and then attacked me. As soon as I start gaining the upper hand he cloaks again... and force regens. He can keep that up indefinitely. There is no way to win against it. He can't kill me, I definitely can't kill him... so I have to abort the mission.
So for the sake of someone getting cloak, I am unable to complete a mission on them. Then you have greivers who use the exploit to torment a would be attacker. Seriously, Feign Death was nerfed for the sole purpose that people could use it and completely escape death. And now... Cloakers get the ability to escape death and regen their force all at the same time... and get a first attack on a Bounty Hunter.
And yes, it is a first attack since I can no longer target them, and they can target me and initiate the attack. By the way... exactly how am I "full of poop?"
As force powers I don't have the staying power of an MDef, therefore I see nothing wrong with this tactic, it was a fair move IMO, a tactical use of the skills and template the Jedi chose, and BH can still kill me, although they WILL bleed for it
Jacella wrote:
ShaikeRamjet wrote:
A cloaker should not be able to use any other force powers while cloaked, especially force regen. They can stay perpetually cloaked. The other night, I was in a PvP battle where a cloaked Jedi was using an exploit to attack me while cloaked. If he were not allowed to use any powers while cloaked, this exploit wouldn't happen.
As cloak is, it is way too overpowering. I can track my bounty and as soon as I attack from range, he cloaks and is gone. The jedi then can force regen, pop a bunch of food and hit his Booster Blue... and I no longer have first strike capabilities. It was stated by the devs that what makes a BH able to be 1vs1 with a full temp Jedi is our first strike capabilities. If that is taken away from us... then what do we have?
Bottom line is... a Jedi should not be able to use force powers while cloaked.
Whaa! Want a blankie?
Cloak isn't overpowering, you just need to know how to attack them.
Glingal wrote:
first of all its not an exploit, its a bug, the only way that can happen is from lag (been there done that) it cant be done over and over, its a rare thing. and i guess this is like saying dont use sniper shot while in cover, or dont shoot him while he's rooted....
Yes. It is an exploit because I know people that can reproduce this anytime they want. Maybe you should know what you are talking about before you post. A rifleman can only do a single attack while under cover. Their cover can be broken, cloak can not. Root is a completely different ability than cloak or cover so it doesn't even fit here.
I swear... it seems the Jedi profession is breeding morons. A smart Jedi will come in and leave a good reply and then he's followed by 5 idiots...
ShaikeRamjet wrote:
The Jedi knew I was their only after the first shot. The Jedi actually waited until I was about to leave... I pull out my speeder and as soon as I pulled it out, he decloaked and destroyed my speeder and then attacked me. As soon as I start gaining the upper hand he cloaks again... and force regens. He can keep that up indefinitely. There is no way to win against it. He can't kill me, I definitely can't kill him... so I have to abort the mission.
So for the sake of someone getting cloak, I am unable to complete a mission on them. Then you have greivers who use the exploit to torment a would be attacker. Seriously, Feign Death was nerfed for the sole purpose that people could use it and completely escape death. And now... Cloakers get the ability to escape death and regen their force all at the same time... and get a first attack on a Bounty Hunter.
And yes, it is a first attack since I can no longer target them, and they can target me and initiate the attack. By the way... exactly how am I "full of poop?"
It is not impossible to do it, your just to stupid to let them cloak. There was NO way to stop feign death, there's tons of ways to stop cloak.
FOr example you could root, snare, or kd him. Perhaps you could also burst run to prevent him from cloaking. Did you know if ANYTHING is within 20m they can't cloak, have a pet or something follow him.
Oh and you had your first strike genious, unless somehow the jedi attacked first. You RUINED your advantage by letting him cloak and prepare himself.
Rofl, how is he griefing you. You attacked him and he is in no way forcing you to do so. I guess i'll start calling you a griefer cause you try to kill me lol. Grow up and learn to play.
I have a saying with whiney bh's like you, and i've said it since i've become jedi.