Bounty Hunter Archive

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Rival2031 wrote:

Publish 20!!! Publish 20!!! Whine whine and more whines... Tell you the truth all you noobs who propose to quit SWG please do. /wave That will mean less whining and complaining and more constructive posts on these boards lol. Add the bonus of less children playing the game... Long Live SWG. I do this for all the TRUE BH's who still want to play the gamedespite publish 20 or the Dev logic behind it.Please, all you BH's who have the audicity to put on an MBH tag leave the whining to the Jedi who pout and also threaten to cancel their accountto somehow spite SOE everytime a new publish comes down. The truth is that no one really cares if you cancel your account, especially SOE who already made you buy the game plus 2 expansions AND monthly fees for two years. /sniffle;/plays_smallviolin;/endrant

/put_on_happy_face

Ok... Publish 20 simlulation:

So I'm bored out of my mind because at CL 80 and being an MBH, there's nothing really left to do except hunt jedi. I guess I could do some quests... nah ontoanother Jedi hunt.I think to myself, "Let's make this interesting". What would happen if I hunted a Jedi without knowing his name? Hmm.... interesting indeed. So I go to BH town, Kadaara, and log into the terms.

Now I know that I cannot fully simulate patch 20 and the nameless/no payoutterminal becausecurrent terminalsstill show payouts. I figure that when the patch hits and when one sees 40-52 payouts (plus you get a bonus depending on the level of the Jedi), I would be one of thosepersons who would automatically pick a 52k mission in hopes (or risk) of getting assigned a full template Jedi which usually pays 226k total. I also picked a 226k mission so that if successful, I can further defuse the myth that a full template Jedi cannot be soloed (for all you gank squad individuals). So Iaccept the first 226k mission without looking at the name of the mark. It's Arakyd time. Grr.. offline. Drop the mission and pick up the next one and dispatch droid.... offline. Huh. I guess patch 20 will be good for something as they say they'll fix the offline Jedi thing. /hope.Four Arakyds later,I get a live one. Target is in Theed no less. Launch a seeker, bust out the speeder, and drive to Theed thinking of an approach since I won't know who and what my mark is.

I get within 1000+ meters of the waypoint. Seeker updates and no change. Tactics time. Off comes the armor and I change into regular clothes. I also made sure that I had no tag up and have myself as anonymous. Usual checks also follow, bomb droid in place, PvP food at the ready, stim D's at the ready, macros all set up,so on and so on. I also equip a staff (lol) in an attempt to ward any suspicion upon approach. Good to go. I drive into the city and spot the Jedi in front of the Starport playing swords. Heh, never seen that before. I don't stop driving and keep an eye on the targeted waypoint... you know the big orange triangle. Hmm... there are a couple of Jedi (6-7), some stragglers watching/dancing, and some NPC's all cluttering the radar. At this point I kind of have an idea who the mark is, but not 100% certain. Everyone in this group is moving. I then get off the speeder and leave it out just in case. Wait for the seeker to update then I approach stopping here and there until I make it to the group/fightclub. At this point I figure I need to appear as an onlooker,so I park myself ringside at the colored stick fest. Quick check of the spatial chat confirms that my insertion was unnoticed. I zoom the radar to 32 meters zero in on the mark. Seeker updates again and I know who the mark is now (the big glowing orange pillar is also helpful lol). Ithenstudy the mark. CL 80, no shirt, no shoes and wearing some type of medallion. Hmm... must be 70's day in Theed but I didn't get that memo . Further examination shows that he only has 9 badges lol. This guy has to be either a respec/double xp grinding/ or infamous afk grinder since it seems he doesn't get around much. I also check to see what buffs he has on and their respective timers. 4 buffs all starting to fall off at the 1-3 minute mark. Hmmm... no looping macros eh?I am now confident he is an amateur PvP. Time for the smack down. THE END.

j/k I guess I'll tell you hwo the fight went down. /deepbreath.

I slowly make my way around to stand behind him to maximize any first strike capability. Calmly, I switch into armor, pull out the bomb droid,and eat/drinkfoodand spice. 1st macro of improved electrolyte drop/paralyze/improved traumatize goes in before I even arm a weapon and start firing. I alsomake sure improvedinfect hits (for those non-believers itcaps total HP and decreases that cap over time, thus preventing ajedi mark from healing at full potential). By the time my 2nd debuff macro hits he types out ****! (lol). I arm a proton carb and open fire while running away to put at least 45-50 meters between me and the mark. When his life goes under 1/2, I send the fun droid in and, viola, the first incap happens. No noobish manuevers like running in for the DB since patience seperates the good PvP'rs from the bad. He gets up and starts his march towards me (hehe, electro drain is a wicked 2 minute snare). I keep firingso hekeeps healing himself and consumes more force. He, almost predictably, buffs himself... see I told you he was an amatuer. Mindpool... down about 45%. There's the good 'ol saber throw and KD. Hit the knockdown recover and continue shooting specials to keephis healing up + force consumption. 2nd saber throw and I'm kissing the pavement once more which allows him to close the gap. After a couple of hits/misses (gotta love quality food that makes them miss) from Mr. Jedi I get up and I hitmy DOT macro. I know he's hurting now because enhanced DOT'sboth hit and stick. 550-600 damage per 5 clicks is gotta hurt. I now go toe to toe with with him fighting and healing myself and him doing the same only difference is I have more mind than he and, I know he's gotta be starving for force. I re-apply the electro-drop/traumatize again.A little while longer,I notice his heals are getting farther apart so its time to kite. He sees me doing this and he disengages and turns around pretty much to run away. Stopping shot hits and he's rooted. Spam Adv. Crit/Torso Shot and he's incapped for the second time with a longer timer this time. Run up, DB macro is engaged. /wave;/bows_to_jedifriends

And just like that 226k in the bank and complimentary Jedi hate tells about my sexual orientation to boot. /rideoffintosunset

With this type of scenario, I think I figured out what the DEVS actually want the role of the BH to be. They want you to "hunt" your mark (Bounty "HUNT"er get it?) instead oftheseother "hunting" techniques so many brag about (you know, IsawaJedi outside of the cantina, grabbed his mission, thenDB). From the sappy disguises, running around, getting close, and attacking from behind, I would say the hunting aspect if killing Jedi has been raised somewhat. You just have to KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING. Yes, you can kill a knight without your noob gank squad and still win. Again YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING.

I know the DEVS will raise the bar to hunting with publish 20, but jeeze I don't think it'll be that much to cry over. I just did a no-name mission and it wasn't even on the test server lol. NP. It didn't take me that long to locate the mark evenwith the offline Jedi I picked up. NP. While I still have some gripes about the no payout-info aspect of the new publish, I will continue to hunt jedi. If I ever should get a mark that is below CL 80, then guess what... somewhat of an easier kill,xp loss, hate tells, and Jedi complaining on their forum saying how this game sucks. A satisfying combination for me even if it doesn't pay the 200k+ bounty. I'll admit I'll miss spotting a Jedi in the starport showboating and running to the terms to get his mission, but I guess the DEVS really want you to use your droids lol. Again NP!!!. And did I mention that Jedi's can't run and hide in a house anymore? LOL the silver lining on this dark cloud just keeps getting bigger each publish.

So bring on the feared publish 20 devs!!! ::shakes fist with Tubec Idos:: Take those names off the Terminals!!! Make the noob BH's change profession/go away!!! Seperate the Men (women) from the children!!!

I, for one, am ready. /cock_scatterpistol.

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Ametzu

-Proud Master Bounty Hunter of the PHX-

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Rival2031 wrote:

MBH/MCM/0004 pistols

I may drop pistols because of the paralyze of the CM. Get rifles again just to get conceal hehe. Make me hunt for Jedi eh? Might as well do it invisible.

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Ametzu

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Nathanielstarr wrote:
wait wait wait what is your template? MCM Mpistoleer? you'll have to be master bh now you know.

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Rival2031 already statedhis temp was MBH/MCM/0004 pistols (as if that wasnt obvious from the specials he used including the root).

Problem is, Rival2031 skipped over one other VERY important detail. As Rival2031 stated "Further examination shows that he only has 9 badges". This whole battle was a experienced BH Vs a complete nub of a PvP 220k+ Jedi.

MBH/MCM with some ranged (likely pistols for the root but rifles for the conceal is good to) and the standard MBH with some mastered ranged (likley rifles or Carbines) with 4-0-0-0 CM will be the ONLY viable BH templates for Jedi hunting. That sucks.

I know that some BH did abuse the system and used BH type template that were 220K worthy on lowly paddies, but some of us enjoy templates (like mine) that are geared towards180 and under marks. After pub 20 the only reason I'll hang on to my BH tag is for the higher mission payouts (30k beats 10k missions). However, my Jedi hunting days are going to be over. I mean, I might pick one up now and then for sh*ts and giggles if I'm bored but being that there will be a 90% chance my mark will be a 220k template, I'll just end up dropping it and instead /waving at him.

Like I said in a former thread I made:

SOE doesnt give a sh*t about making Jedi difficult or rare. Jedi to SOE is a marketing hook and it is obvious they want to use it to its FULL potential (get that inital game purchase and then follow it up with a mandatory 5ish month grind to paddy and maybe squeeze a few more months out of that).

Sad thing is, the whole marketing aspect is hardly genius. It is a nub marketing strategy by some moron(s) in a suit who lact the ability to hold any real creative thought or idea... Making $$$ is important to any company, but doing it at the expense of the product is just.... unimpressive.

Anyhow, I'm no dooms dayer but after publish 20 (unless they tweak it **and** include the Jedi name somewhere in the SkyNet/droid process) BH hunting is going to be a thing of the past if one takes a broad overall look... Sure there will be some die hards but, considering BH hunting/exp loss is already being overshadowed by the increasing daily Jedi population, they will not even atleast be a thorn in the side of Jedi... Just a rare occurrence like what Jedi themselves use to be back in early 04'

Message Edited by SomeUser on 07-09-2005 01:25 AM

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SomeUser wrote:

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Nathanielstarr wrote:
wait wait wait what is your template? MCM Mpistoleer? you'll have to be master bh now you know.

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Rival2031 already statedhis temp was MBH/MCM/0004 pistols (as if that wasnt obvious from the specials he used including the root).

Problem is, Rival2031 skipped over one other VERY important detail. As Rival2031 stated "Further examination shows that he only has 9 badges". This whole battle was a experienced BH Vs a complete nub of a PvP 220k+ Jedi.

MBH/MCM with some ranged (likely pistols for the root but rifles for the conceal is good to) and the standard MBH with some mastered ranged (likley rifles or Carbines) with 4-0-0-0 CM will be the ONLY viable BH templates for Jedi hunting. That sucks.

I know that some BH did abuse the system and used BH type template that were 220K worthy on lowly paddies, but some of us enjoy templates (like mine) that are geared towards180 and under marks. After pub 20 the only reason I'll hang on to my BH tag is for the higher mission payouts (30k beats 10k missions). However, my Jedi hunting days are going to be over. I mean, I might pick one up now and then for sh*ts and giggles if I'm bored but being that there will be a 90% chance my mark will be a 220k template, I'll just end up dropping it and instead /waving at him.

Like I said in a former thread I made:

SOE doesnt give a sh*t about making Jedi difficult or rare. Jedi to SOE is a marketing hook and it is obvious they want to use it to its FULL potential (get that inital game purchase and then follow it up with a mandatory 5ish month grind to paddy and maybe squeeze a few more months out of that).

Sad thing is, the whole marketing aspect is hardly genius. It is a nub marketing strategy by some moron(s) in a suit who lact the ability to hold any real creative thought or idea... Making $$$ is important to any company, but doing it at the expense of the product is just.... unimpressive.

Anyhow, I'm no dooms dayer but after publish 20 (unless they tweak it **and** include the Jedi name somewhere in the SkyNet/droid process) BH hunting is going to be a thing of the past if one takes a broad overall look... Sure there will be some die hards but, considering BH hunting/exp loss is already being overshadowed by the increasing daily Jedi population, they will not even atleast be a thorn in the side of Jedi... Just a rare occurrence like what Jedi themselves use to be back in early 04'

Message Edited by SomeUser on 07-09-2005 01:25 AM

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DivNotDed wrote:
I would love to see Kash go XP free meaning it is one big quest area and you only go there for the fun, not to grind, as in nothing grants XP on Kash.

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Kashyyk is no viable option for the jedi, because of the visi (wookiee are NPCs)...

Now that groups will notcreate visi anymore, believe me, you will see more paddys grind on normal planets...

Message Edited by BooleScaric on 07-09-2005 10:56 AM

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BooleScaric wrote:

Kashyyk is no viable option for the jedi, because of the visi (wookiee are NPCs)...

Now that groups will notcreate visi anymore, believe me, you will see more paddys grind on normal planets...

Message Edited by BooleScaric on 07-09-2005 10:56 AM

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Nathanielstarr wrote:

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BooleScaric wrote:

Kashyyk is no viable option for the jedi, because of the visi (wookiee are NPCs)...

Now that groups will notcreate visi anymore, believe me, you will see more paddys grind on normal planets...

Message Edited by BooleScaric on 07-09-2005 10:56 AM

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You will not see many padawans on the terminals at all. It will be easy to avoid. You will see finished and near finished templates. Better learn to fight them. They should just put 0400 medic as a requirement of bh and put in a healing tree.

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Low level Padawans are generally the ones who show the saber to the friends.......

There will still be plenty of low level padawans on the terms for you to fondle.