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Thread: thanks to whatever idiot cried about this..

millermix
Sat Sep 03, 2005 4:35 pm
#14

euh.. Alls I was saying is that invest 1-4 is now just as worthless to do as it was before they changed it.. And that i had thought the intent was to fix this.



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millermix
Sat Sep 03, 2005 4:40 pm
#15


well Edda.. come to corbantis and Ill show you my two toons. Name and NPC.. NPC is master and Name has been master before.. As for farming yes I run missions a lot nowadays for money and I have decided to drop an account.. so.. I am regrinding the tree to make my older toon MBH again.. as I said. The new new loot for NBH is sh1te just as it use to be.



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stusher
Sat Sep 03, 2005 4:42 pm
#16

lol my invest grind is going to be fun now :/


one extreme to another as usual - couldnt just make mbh loot +10 and above and nbh +10 max no must completely nuke it and give us some more cr4p useless loot.....





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stusher
Sat Sep 03, 2005 4:43 pm
#17

does it get better at 2xxx bh ?



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millermix
Sat Sep 03, 2005 4:46 pm
#18

lol I hope.. Im like 400xp away from it.



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stusher
Sat Sep 03, 2005 4:50 pm
#19

let me know, otherwise ill just go and pvp



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alephen
Sat Sep 03, 2005 4:51 pm
#20

lol




Edda_Gast wrote:

You sir, are obviously a noobcake who has farmed the NBH missions, and now has been given the massive nerf stick, and doesnt have the respec available to be a true bounty hunter.


Novice bounty hunters hunt novice criminals, who hold novice loot.
Intermediate bounty hunters hunt intermediate level criminals, who hold moderate loot.
Master Bounty Hunters hunt the most elite of marks, who hold the most elite of loot.


You can't hunt those elite targets who gots the goods, without a bit of time and elbow grease. Risk vs Reward, no pain...no gain.








you sir are obviouslya genoius.yeah i farmed those novice missions to the tune of around 300m in loot. great insight, since i stated i was doing NBH missions. i wouldnt waste a respec on going to MBH, should take me what 8 hours?1k inv xpper combatant terminel slice? pfft, i have mastered every class but 7 of the pilots and politician, MBH is cake now compared to when i did it over 20 months ago.


finally feel free to move away from personal attacks and answer any one of my questions. i will make it easy: why should a boss that a MBH get have a better loot table then a level 89 blacksun? level 89 BS are harder to find and tougher. explain how the the i want grossly inproportional loot from what i kill compared to what other (non-BH) people get but it is competely unfair for someone else (NBH) to get better loot then me arguement is *fair*.


face the fact, you are selfish, greedy elitists that think everything should be yours because you have a MBH tag. you should have the best loot, you should have the only elite class content in the game, you should be the best PvP class, except maybe jedi who should be no more then your equal right?


i have no real problem with people being selfish, i have a real problem with people being hypocritical and saying they are doing it for fairness sake




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alwayslost
Sat Sep 03, 2005 4:54 pm
#21

Actually, I think there is some truth onall sides in all of this. I don't even remember if any reason was ever given why the bounty hunter npc loot system was introduced in the first place. But it is a reason to choose the BHprofession now, especiallyif one does not want to hunt jedi (or isn't good enough yet or rich enough yet to hunt jedi, whatever). One backlash was that folks could dabble in bounty hunter, get the novice box, stay on one planet with lots of shuttleports, and farm the loot because they were level 80 from their other two elite professions. The staying on one planet part put novice BH's ahead of master BH's (who have to buy and use droids, spend travel time, and chase somemarks over yavin IV, endor, and dathomir where there are no player city shuttles). So then we get the latest revision, where the master BH does get a tangible reward to spending the skill points and grinding to master.That reward for mastering (other than hunting jedi) seems reasonable to me. What profession doesn't get some advantage at master?


I think millermix has a good point though as far as, what is the reward for mastering investigation 1, or 2, or 3, or 4, over those who don't get those boxes at all? The current system is a little "all or none", and maybe there is some room for something in between.


alephen
Sat Sep 03, 2005 5:09 pm
#22






alwayslost wrote:

Actually, I think there is some truth onall sides in all of this. I don't even remember if any reason was ever given why the bounty hunter npc loot system was introduced in the first place. But it is a reason to choose the BHprofession now, especiallyif one does not want to hunt jedi (or isn't good enough yet or rich enough yet to hunt jedi, whatever). One backlash was that folks could dabble in bounty hunter, get the novice box, stay on one planet with lots of shuttleports, and farm the loot because they were level 80 from their other two elite professions. The staying on one planet part put novice BH's ahead of master BH's (who have to buy and use droids, spend travel time, and chase somemarks over yavin IV, endor, and dathomir where there are no player city shuttles). So then we get the latest revision, where the master BH does get a tangible reward to spending the skill points and grinding to master.That reward for mastering (other than hunting jedi) seems reasonable to me. What profession doesn't get some advantage at master?


I think millermix has a good point though as far as, what is the reward for mastering investigation 1, or 2, or 3, or 4, over those who don't get those boxes at all? The current system is a little "all or none", and maybe there is some room for something in between.








well, i have never argued for a return to novice loot being what it was, the fact i made about 8m per hour is proof that it was insanely overbalanced. so much so that i convinced 6 other BHs (that i am sure of) get NBH or drop to NBH. i posted many times how much i made and encouaged everyone i came into contact with that they should do it, since it was so unbalanced.


the problem i have is that the MBHs did not cry for a nerf because it was unfair, but because they wanted to have their cake (the loot) and eat it too (keep MBH.) the MBH loot is not fair, it is not balanced to anything that non-BHs can get. kill NSs for 10 hours or MBH missions for 10 hours and the BH will average alot more loot value. however the MBHs who literally were frothing at the mouth over NBHs getting ridiculously high loot, are curiously quite on this point.


personally i would like drop rates for NBH missions roughly about 1/4 MBH marks. that *would* be fair. but only if NS loot, BS loot, nym loot, etc. was greatly increased. someone killing NSs for 10 hours should have roughly the same value of loot per hour as someone doing MBH missions.




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Jedi Padawan Robe:

Designed for those who relish personal combat, these robes offer good protection with no hindrance to movement.
Edda_Gast
Sat Sep 03, 2005 5:21 pm
#23






alephen wrote:






alwayslost wrote:

Actually, I think there is some truth onall sides in all of this. I don't even remember if any reason was ever given why the bounty hunter npc loot system was introduced in the first place. But it is a reason to choose the BHprofession now, especiallyif one does not want to hunt jedi (or isn't good enough yet or rich enough yet to hunt jedi, whatever). One backlash was that folks could dabble in bounty hunter, get the novice box, stay on one planet with lots of shuttleports, and farm the loot because they were level 80 from their other two elite professions. The staying on one planet part put novice BH's ahead of master BH's (who have to buy and use droids, spend travel time, and chase somemarks over yavin IV, endor, and dathomir where there are no player city shuttles). So then we get the latest revision, where the master BH does get a tangible reward to spending the skill points and grinding to master.That reward for mastering (other than hunting jedi) seems reasonable to me. What profession doesn't get some advantage at master?


I think millermix has a good point though as far as, what is the reward for mastering investigation 1, or 2, or 3, or 4, over those who don't get those boxes at all? The current system is a little "all or none", and maybe there is some room for something in between.








well, i have never argued for a return to novice loot being what it was, the fact i made about 8m per hour is proof that it was insanely overbalanced. so much so that i convinced 6 other BHs (that i am sure of) get NBH or drop to NBH. i posted many times how much i made and encouaged everyone i came into contact with that they should do it, since it was so unbalanced.


the problem i have is that the MBHs did not cry for a nerf because it was unfair, but because they wanted to have their cake (the loot) and eat it too (keep MBH.) the MBH loot is not fair, it is not balanced to anything that non-BHs can get. kill NSs for 10 hours or MBH missions for 10 hours and the BH will average alot more loot value. however the MBHs who literally were frothing at the mouth over NBHs getting ridiculously high loot, are curiously quite on this point.


personally i would like drop rates for NBH missions roughly about 1/4 MBH marks. that *would* be fair. but only if NS loot, BS loot, nym loot, etc. was greatly increased. someone killing NSs for 10 hours should have roughly the same value of loot per hour as someone doing MBH missions.







A MBH mission can take upwards of 20-30 minutes considering they put it on adventure planets with no shuttles. A novice BH mission takes about 2 minutes. You can farm 2-3 nightsister per minute, and in a group its extremely overpowered.


Bounty Hunter missions don't always drop the good loot. I did MBH missions all day last saturday, and got nothing.




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KammaRocca
Sat Sep 03, 2005 5:22 pm
#24

As a master smuggler/MBH, I'd love to loot just one simple toolkit so I can finally stack them instead of having 20 in my pack.
Dosi
Sat Sep 03, 2005 5:25 pm
#25



KammaRocca wrote:
As a master smuggler/MBH, I'd love to loot just one simple toolkit so I can finally stack them instead of having 20 in my pack.




What server, as a master smuggler/MBH, I'd love to get rid of about 500 simple toolkits.



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Edda_Gast
Sat Sep 03, 2005 5:25 pm
#26

Hey all you non-MBH, go farm akkuans. For us MBH, we'll farm our missions.


You will ALWAYWS find something to be a baby about in this game. Get used to the fact that life isnt perfect, and go on lads.





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