Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: Publish 19 Experiences
MasterARP
Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:24 pm
#14
Fought a guy and got destroyed by his MLS--not jsut because of his damage but because he can do it without even denting his action or mind
Lack of action/mind costs on the MLS is incredibly unbalancing--i dont have issue with the amount of damage -since its on par with a master rifleman--but to be able to hit for 900 every 2 seconds without affecting the action bar (unlike the rifleman) is game breaking
Lack of action/mind costs on the MLS is incredibly unbalancing--i dont have issue with the amount of damage -since its on par with a master rifleman--but to be able to hit for 900 every 2 seconds without affecting the action bar (unlike the rifleman) is game breaking
_Apache
Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:47 pm
#15
MasterARP wrote:
Fought a guy and got destroyed by his MLS--not jsut because of his damage but because he can do it without even denting his action or mind
Lack of action/mind costs on the MLS is incredibly unbalancing--i dont have issue with the amount of damage -since its on par with a master rifleman--but to be able to hit for 900 every 2 seconds without affecting the action bar (unlike the rifleman) is game breaking
Get used to it. The Jedi Factory, Kashyyk is going to be pumping these out like crazy.
pagoa
Wed Jun 29, 2005 9:48 pm
#16
ya you now need cm or doc in your temp to be successful and yes, some fully templated jedi are easy now cause they have pre patch templates, but don't worry soon every jedi will be going master sabers and figuring out the best template for this new patch. so don't worry about jedi being too easy cause i'm sure it's gonna change... and i fought some 226k jedi that i easily controlled and some that tore me apart in 30 sec. jedi with good sabers and the right temp will out damage your healing if they get close. this may change.
pag
ShaikeRamjet
Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:03 pm
#17
KashyyykGaurdian wrote:
this is sad what they have done to jedi...i can easily out heal a fully templated jedi with master heal, and i can heal faster than he can damage me with master LS. i have doc 4000. eventually my mind runs out, but aslong as i keep them rooted alot they rarely hit me and i can tank them indefinitely... im also a master pistoleer for the crowd control, and yes they can almost keep up with the damage i deal but their force eventually runs out and they are screwed
sufice it to say, any BH with some doc or CM can now easily beat a jedi...i dont like it...theres no challenge now..before, i could barely beat someone with 1 mastery, now i can mulch a fully templated jedi...its too easy..thats just my 2 cents..if u dont agree with me fine, but if u agrue than u must either be a bad BH or a stupid troll
Message Edited by KashyyykGaurdian on 06-29-2005 06:05 PM
Answer me this... Why should a Jedi who is using some unseen "Force" to heal, should be any better than a doctor or combat medic who are experts in their field?
A Jedi should be a "Jack of All Trades" master of none except the Lightsaber.
jrt
Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:35 pm
#18
i no i have no reason to be here i just wanted to see what was going on here i dont no if you guys no but alot of jedi where staying master rifles or something like that becuase LS didnt do the damage. They had to beef it up so jedi wouldnt be staying master rifles master defender 4-0-0-0 healer.
Nathanielstarr
Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:39 pm
#19
92k jedi hit me for over 700 consistently. He was level 77 and I am level 80. I had 8106 energy armor with 6000 elemental resists. I have 265 melee defense and was using advanced defense stance...
So basically you shouldn't be hunting jedi right now you should be grinding to get one.
Phaylen
Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:16 pm
#20
Lack of action/mind costs on the MLS is incredibly unbalancing--i dont have issue with the amount of damage -since its on par with a master rifleman--but to be able to hit for 900 every 2 seconds without affecting the action bar (unlike the rifleman) is game breaking
Sounds like your jedi was using a prenerf saber with no action cost for saber moves. I've seen 2 jedi in game with these sabers after patch 19.
Phaylen
Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:17 pm
#21
so don't worry about jedi being too easy cause i'm sure it's gonna change... and i fought some 226k jedi that i easily controlled and some that tore me apart in 30 sec. jedi with good sabers and the right temp will out damage your healing if they get close. this may change.
Agreed. I took 1k damage every 2 seconds by a MLS today. Its pretty amazing.
TheOtherDude
Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:18 pm
#22
jrt wrote:
i no i have no reason to be here i just wanted to see what was going on here i dont no if you guys no but alot of jedi where staying master rifles or something like that becuase LS didnt do the damage. They had to beef it up so jedi wouldnt be staying master rifles master defender 4-0-0-0 healer.
Despite the fact that most full-template jedi are obviously more powerful than the stated 1.5x non-jedi, Ithink most of us can agree that those rifleman/jedi were a sign that something definitely wasn't working correctly.
However, I don't know howjedi will ever come close to that 1.5x number if they have better offense than the best non-jedi offensive profession (WAY lower SAC than rifleman), better defense than the best non-jedi defensive profesion (again, it'snot even close to Teras Kasi), and fantastic healing (even though it's not what it used to be, it's a lot better than what most non-jedi templates have). I honestly don't know how Doc4000 or CM4000 compares to Jedi Healer4000, but the jedi healing ability is certainly a lot easier to fit intoones template, and it doesn't require any enhancers to work at it's best.
So, I don't know how I got off on my little tangent there, but I meant to say I generally agree with you, jrt. 
JerethBane
Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:55 pm
#23
MLS/MDef/Healer3000/Enhancer0003
Just nitpicking here, but so you know, this is an impossible template.
Costs 254 points.
EmobBreiPistoleer
Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:55 pm
#24
TheOtherDude wrote:
EmobBreiPistoleer wrote:
A friend and I have killed 2 225k Jedi and 1 226k Jedi so far. Biggest difference is they run out of mind quickly. I have noticed that they do a lot more damage now. Anyone else having success?
How have you adjusted your tactics (if at all), if you don't mind me asking?
We didn't. Jedi healer doesn't work too well anymore. When u got 2 pets, a pistoleer, and a rifleman on ya, you lose your mind pretty fast, and don't have time to attack. And once your mind is gone, its all over. Yay for mass DPS!! Oh ya, and 2 of our kills were MDefenders..... i hate that avoid incap crap more than cloak.
ShozaSunwalker
Thu Jun 30, 2005 1:03 am
#25
TheOtherDude wrote:
Thanks for the info. Once jedi start using food/spice/instant stims/ect. they'll be all that much more powerful. Actually, though, it's probably to the aware jedi's advantage that the majority don't bother with those things since they can be killed by people like you and make the profession appear to be closer to being balanced than it really is.
I don't feel that jedi should be using anything other than the force and their lightsabers.. with this patch lightsabers can actually do damage so jedi are no longer using laser rifles/elite carbines instead and I feel the same about healing, their healing must be bad if they have to resort to using stims/ruby to stay alive because they can't use their healing profession.. but for the moment i'm going to make the most of it, jedi will take a few days to recover and adapt just like everyone had to just after the CU hit.
Xuski
Thu Jun 30, 2005 1:06 am
#26
well heres the thing, not all jedi are mls/mdef, most the stories ive read hereare about them. there still are jedi out there tho that dont like the fotm stuff and instead go for something like mpowers. I havent heard anything yet so i dont know what i can say about them vs BH. But seeing as I and others i know, dont have defender in our templates, we will be easyer targets. there is still hope for you jedi killin' craving feigns out there 
please dont hurt me >_<. I do agree that with pub 19, PvP will know take more skill and be less of a heal/drain war, for both jedi and BH.
please dont hurt me >_<. I do agree that with pub 19, PvP will know take more skill and be less of a heal/drain war, for both jedi and BH.