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Thread: Sneak up on em and take em out!! hehe

Manbush
Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:51 pm
#14

im a jedi troll, personally i dont mind this tactic, but you must be aware, that more bh do this, will become harder for anyone with master bh in bio to find group, noone will invite you or others, bh and even former bh could find it near impossible to find grind groups
Alvantes
Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:34 pm
#15


Dunno if somone said this above but when ur grouped with them they can cloak so you need to make sure to /disband as soon as they start to run.



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woohooant
Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:38 pm
#16


I completely agree with implied agreements above.


I am relatively new to MBH and I lose more battles than I win. My template is MCH/MBH/CM4xxx and I chose it because it would be challenging to manage. When I do win, it's worth every loss I have to go through to get it.


I am also grinding FS xp and when I'm grinding, I'm GRINDING, not bounty hunting. When I'mhunting, I'm NOT grinding.


Notonly do I follow this rule, but if I am in a grind group I will HELP any jedi that are in my group prevail against the BH any way I can by tipping them off, making sure they're healed before the attack begins, etc.


Of course it's legal for BH's to use this tactic and I won't badmouth anyone who chooses to do it, but I, personally, strongly agree with the "implied agreement to help that person and the group you've joined..." principle...that was very well said.



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GriffinsMyth
Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:57 pm
#17

Its not that big of a problem, seriously. Brand new BH only need about an hour in a good AOE group, that does not have to have Jedi, to get all the Weapon XP they need. You cant honestly think that a few BH killing grouped Jedi is going to make every Jedi on the server never invite players that have neither Bounty Hunter tags, BH iconic weapons or the CL to pose a threat? New Bounty Hunters won't be affected by this very much at all. As for the CL 80 BH grinding for FS XP, a Jedi full spin group aint thier only option, and same thing really, I'm a CL 80 Player with ...has mastered the Bounty Hunter Profession, along with Rifleman, Carbineer, Pistoleer, Marksman and Combat Medic badges, and I still get invited to groups, including groups that are over half full of Jedi. Anyone who thinks it'll created a huge problem is probably just angry they got turned down for a group by some paddies because they weren't dumb enough to take the risk.


As for the tactic specifically, its great fun. Makes ranged AOEing stupid for you though, so if the Jedi in the spin group is smart he'll notice your lack of AOE attacks as not to hit him and blow your cover. Basically, each BH to their own, you'll get Jedi hate tells for a honest no tricks fight where you gave them good warning, and just attacking a Jedi can blacklist you from thier groups and the groups of anyone they know, so I dont see this tactic as any problem whatsoever.
wapu4me2
Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:11 pm
#18

I really appreciate all of the great input so far! Thanks!

On a side note, I had noticed that as I logged in sometimes there would be a duel challenge waiting for me. Chalk it up to a lack of experience, but I could not quite figure out why this was. After what happened the other day, I understand. Unless of course I am misinterpreting that as well.

Throughout Star Wars Jedi and BHs have always seemed to be the most powerful to me, with the exception of Greedo. The power struggle carries over into this game that we play. In many situations that involve power struggles things can get ugly. It is just a fact of life.

Thank you all again for your comments! I look forward to more gaming with all of you!
Manbush
Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:18 pm
#19


junk waffle calm down, think you misunderstood me, i said i dont mind that tactic, never thought i was leet, or that the world revolved around me, but with sheer number of jedi unlocking unfortunately most aoe grind groups do consist of jedi, and purposely look for jedi, not once did i claim what you are saying, relax, chill out a bit, not all jedi are like what you say, i was actually trying to help, cos i dont mind any method used to attack me personally

bmill
Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:20 pm
#20






woohooant wrote:


I completely agree with implied agreements above.


I am relatively new to MBH and I lose more battles than I win. My template is MCH/MBH/CM4xxx and I chose it because it would be challenging to manage. When I do win, it's worth every loss I have to go through to get it.


I am also grinding FS xp and when I'm grinding, I'm GRINDING, not bounty hunting. When I'mhunting, I'm NOT grinding.


Notonly do I follow this rule, but if I am in a grind group I will HELP any jedi that are in my group prevail against the BH any way I can by tipping them off, making sure they're healed before the attack begins, etc.


Of course it's legal for BH's to use this tactic and I won't badmouth anyone who chooses to do it, but I, personally, strongly agree with the "implied agreement to help that person and the group you've joined..." principle...that was very well said.





There is no agreement either express or implied by joining a group. The conjecture on the posts regarding this are that there is some soft of legal obligation or contract accepted by joining a group. No one is required to help anyone in that group. However, players will often times forget guild and factional disputes while grouped together. Since all the names are green, they can no longer see the blue and the purple indicating foe and ally. Players will forget that their arch rival giuld is in the group, and help that player out, if need be.


However, that is not a requirement to be in a group. You simply accept the offer. There is no contract, at all. The group, simply, is a number of players banding together for mutual benefit. That does not consititute an implied legal obligation to help the members. It may imply a MORAL obligation to help, but the two are different. The law protects legal or obligations, but does not protect moral ones.


A bounty hunter accepts a legal obligation to kill a Jedi when he/she accepts the mission from the terminal. It is now the Bounty Hunter's duty to kill that Jedi. It is that legal duty that supercedes any moral obligations he may face while carrying out his mission. That includes joining a group, specifically to ruse the Jedi and win his confidence to kill.



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Marssk
Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:27 pm
#21


Heh, im a step up on that one, I asked somebody I knew if I could get into their group so I could kill them :smilevery-happy:



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pepe4158
Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:37 pm
#22

That their is no agreement by joining the group is only your opinion....I believe their is you believe their isnt...we will always differ on that.


As far as saying accepting a B/H mission from the terminal is so much more a legal obligation is laughable tho to me Bro.....one that I can cancel just cuz I damn well feel like it is ridiculous to hold up as a more legal obligation. I can refuse to kill a mark and walk away at any time; with no punitive recourse taken on me of any kind; so how the hell is that more of a legal obligation?The people who see you kill the jedi in your own group will however decide to never let you or your guildies into any type of grinding group whatsoever;a much more punitive action for failing your obligations; that you fail to acknowledge and I personally would never do any type of buiz with you whatsoever on SWG; just my choice. I would view you as 'untrustworthy' and wouldnt rez you or any of your guildies anywhere to help you out anywhere; just my choice...not personal man.


As far as it not being a problem.....again just your opinion; there are way too many servers here to say it is or isnt a problem; I respect your opinion ; hope you respect mine; but their both just opinions...not fact.
bmill
Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:26 pm
#23






pepe4158 wrote:

That their is no agreement by joining the group is only your opinion....I believe their is you believe their isnt...we will always differ on that.


As far as saying accepting a B/H mission from the terminal is so much more a legal obligation is laughable tho to me Bro.....one that I can cancel just cuz I damn well feel like it is ridiculous to hold up as a more legal obligation. I can refuse to kill a mark and walk away at any time; with no punitive recourse taken on me of any kind; so how the hell is that more of a legal obligation?The people who see you kill the jedi in your own group will however decide to never let you or your guildies into any type of grinding group whatsoever;a much more punitive action for failing your obligations; that you fail to acknowledge and I personally would never do any type of buiz with you whatsoever on SWG; just my choice. I would view you as 'untrustworthy' and wouldnt rez you or any of your guildies anywhere to help you out anywhere; just my choice...not personal man.


As far as it not being a problem.....again just your opinion; there are way too many servers here to say it is or isnt a problem; I respect your opinion ; hope you respect mine; but their both just opinions...not fact.






You just negated your entire argument. Let it go. now.



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Ashtirael
Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:55 pm
#24






bmill wrote:





pepe4158 wrote:

That their is no agreement by joining the group is only your opinion....I believe their is you believe their isnt...we will always differ on that.


As far as saying accepting a B/H mission from the terminal is so much more a legal obligation is laughable tho to me Bro.....one that I can cancel just cuz I damn well feel like it is ridiculous to hold up as a more legal obligation. I can refuse to kill a mark and walk away at any time; with no punitive recourse taken on me of any kind; so how the hell is that more of a legal obligation?The people who see you kill the jedi in your own group will however decide to never let you or your guildies into any type of grinding group whatsoever;a much more punitive action for failing your obligations; that you fail to acknowledge and I personally would never do any type of buiz with you whatsoever on SWG; just my choice. I would view you as 'untrustworthy' and wouldnt rez you or any of your guildies anywhere to help you out anywhere; just my choice...not personal man.


As far as it not being a problem.....again just your opinion; there are way too many servers here to say it is or isnt a problem; I respect your opinion ; hope you respect mine; but their both just opinions...not fact.






You just negated your entire argument. Let it go. now.





Nah. He validated it.


Opinions rule the world.


To each their own


bmill
Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:11 pm
#25

I can't have a constuctive argument with someone who insults me then says it's his opinion.



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pepe4158
Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:18 pm
#26



Bmill this isnt your threed so I dont think you have the right to hi-jack it by not expressing my opinion, but I'm still lost how you think my saying you are, 'untrustworthy' and thats my opinion..so I would have no further dealings with you of any type hypothetically...hypothetically cause I've never seen you infiltrate a grinding group I was in, and kill the jedi; and even if we were on the same server the odds would be what? ...negates my whole argument Bro, but you seem to have so much more knowledge on that idea so plz enlighten me....and comon seriously 'untrustworthy' isnt the worse weve both been called; dont you think your taking this a little too personal? We both make choices on who in the game we will associate with due to their actions. I was speaking hypothetically. I dont know you personally and may hate your toon; comon Bro I dont really hate you...be serious for aa moment instead of graping everything I say outta context plz.

Message Edited by pepe4158 on 10-24-2005 09:27 PM

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