Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: Most Overused, Overpowered, Gamebreaking Mechanic, You Guessed it.....Cloak!!
snare > anything
fr3 guy hit with snare, moves at walk speed.
snare has no counter. 80m arms for the slaughter
GIVE US FLOUR GRENADES ! Then we can chase those white ghosty jedi running away.
lol, jk .... I disagree with a lot of jedi changs coming and people like this are the reason ... I agree that cloak needs to be addressed as to if engaged in combat, a timer perhaps, and longer range to activate.
/launchTCP SYNStealth PortScan
/start NEAT programs
/gain root
/install yourtojan
/start "cookie" program
/lauch "lockF1-F12" just when you attack!!!
Message Edited by Natures-Ranger on 10-13-2005 11:00 PM
Bipolo "Stalker" Naefae
g2chris wrote:
I play a Jedi and a BH so I see both sides of the story just as many of us do. The CU was meant to balance this game and I believe it almost worked if not for the introduction of cloak, especially since it only requires one tree in powers. People often talk of the "I Win Button", well with this new system I have yet to encounter an I Win Button but have been bested countless times by the "I Don't Lose Button" which is exactly what cloak is.I have been in combat with a jedi and watched them cloak less than 5m from me numerous times. There is no defense, no counter, no hope if someone decides they want to cloak. I play this game for the fun and thrill of the pvp. I realize more and more every day that Cloak makes all forms of pvp almost completely unenjoyable, un-fun, and rather frustrating at times. This is not a Call for Nerf post. Of all the BH/Jedi issues it seems to me this is the most important yet most overlooked. An improvement to this mechanic would result ina more balanced, fun, and challenginggaming experience for both sides, yetI'm sure many jedi will disagree. So, let's bring some attention to this and maybe our new correspondent can come up with some good suggestions.
Every time youare forced to"lose", abandon a mission, orleave a starport due to a cloaker who chooses not to playfair, please post your story here.Let this be the place to vent your frustration with the most unbalanced, unenjoyablemechanicin this game. Many jedi will call this crying butI would call it compiling evidence.
All moves should have a counter....this is your logic not mine....so where is the counter to snare and root?...whereare the counters to speed debuffs?
Assuming that the people who program this game know anything about balance or could find their ass with a a flashlight, both hands and a 1 to 1 scale map is a mistake.
Some skills are overpowered...some are just plain broken.
But trusting in the pack of morons that pass themselves off as game developers is no way to ensure a positive result.
I call this "Compelling Evidence" that you have no idea how to counter this skill and therefore want it nerfed so you can feel like a winner again.
Learn to play your template, and quit whining because someone smoked you.
I see your on ahazi, and will be more than happy to show you why you should hope for more Jedi to take cloak instead of the defensive and offensive skills those points can purchase.
In loving memory of TIGGS. God Bless, and Good Luck!
Natures-Ranger wrote:
/track Jedi's IP Address
/launch TCP SYN Stealth Port Scan
/start NEAT programs
/gain root
/install your tojan
/start "cookie" program
/lauch "lock F1-F12" just when you attack!!!
*NOTE, THIS IS ILLIGAL - AND IS JUST A JOKE* (...not, or yes it is!)Message Edited by Natures-Ranger on 10-13-2005 11:00 PM
you novice syn flood missed my +10 firewall of snort for attacker ip tracking and reporting
linux smoothwall for the win!
GlargTheKelfn wrote:
Natures-Ranger wrote:
/track Jedi's IP Address
/launch TCP SYN Stealth Port Scan
/start NEAT programs
/gain root
/install your tojan
/start "cookie" program
/lauch "lock F1-F12" just when you attack!!!
*NOTE, THIS IS ILLIGAL - AND IS JUST A JOKE* (...not, or yes it is!)
Message Edited by Natures-Ranger on 10-13-2005 11:00 PM
you novice syn flood missed my +10 firewall of snort for attacker ip tracking and reporting
linux smoothwall for the win!
O.o
g2chris wrote:
I play a Jedi and a BH so I see both sides of the story just as many of us do. The CU was meant to balance this game and I believe it almost worked if not for the introduction of cloak, especially since it only requires one tree in powers. People often talk of the "I Win Button", well with this new system I have yet to encounter an I Win Button but have been bested countless times by the "I Don't Lose Button" which is exactly what cloak is.I have been in combat with a jedi and watched them cloak less than 5m from me numerous times. There is no defense, no counter, no hope if someone decides they want to cloak. I play this game for the fun and thrill of the pvp. I realize more and more every day that Cloak makes all forms of pvp almost completely unenjoyable, un-fun, and rather frustrating at times. This is not a Call for Nerf post. Of all the BH/Jedi issues it seems to me this is the most important yet most overlooked. An improvement to this mechanic would result ina more balanced, fun, and challenginggaming experience for both sides, yetI'm sure many jedi will disagree. So, let's bring some attention to this and maybe our new correspondent can come up with some good suggestions.
Every time youare forced to"lose", abandon a mission, orleave a starport due to a cloaker who chooses not to playfair, please post your story here.Let this be the place to vent your frustration with the most unbalanced, unenjoyablemechanicin this game. Many jedi will call this crying butI would call it compiling evidence.
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Jedi were promised that they would be rare, powerful, and hunted.
BH were promised hunting them would be difficult, and dangerous.
Looks like hunted is the only one of the five that is still left in the game. Wonder what that means?
What do you want to bet the Leetboi BH, and the Carebear Jedi get the whole thing removed from the game?
Buku
Naritus
I used to not mind being hunted, even by groups, because I had the power to take them on. Now, what's the point, just log in the Jedi on the old PC, sit him to bleed off vis, read the hate tells now and then, while loot-*expletive* with my BH. Maybe they should take back the uber drops from BH now that they got this carrot. Can't have one class with it all right? Of course the fact that the crybaby BH KNEW Jedi were 20x more powerful when they started hunting them means nothing. Nope, the only thing that runs through their itsy bitsy brains is the phrase "You knew you were going to be hunted." Well *expletive* off twit, I used to be able to defend myself or leave. You've taken that away so I will generate as much vis as possible then bleed it off in a house. If they start making it so that I can't be in a structure, I'll figure out how to bounce in and out and not have FOTM ever get 1 shot at me. KVM's are wonderful things...
BukuJohnson wrote:
Yes a BH should be a little more tactiful when dealing with cloakers but on the other hand, we were promised from day 1 that the life of a Jedi would be difficult and dangerous.
See below.
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Jedi were promised that they would be rare, powerful, and hunted.
So where's the power to fight back against being hunted? CM can stand toe to toe w/ MLS and 700 saber and just heal it up.
BH were promised hunting them would be difficult, and dangerous.
After ToOW where's the danger to them SOE? Perma-snare (ED), plus root, plus cloak snare,plus AOE, plus better weapons and armor = nil chance if hunter has a clue.
Looks like hunted is the only one of the five that is still left in the game. Wonder what that means?
It means the risk should go right out the window.
What do you want to bet the Leetboi BH, and the Carebear Jedi get the whole thing removed from the game?
Looks like the upcoming furor (over not being able to have a 50% chance of winning) could cause it.
Buku
Naritus