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g2chris

Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:15 am

I play a Jedi and a BH so I see both sides of the story just as many of us do. The CU was meant to balance this game and I believe it almost worked if not for the introduction of cloak, especially since it only requires one tree in powers. People often talk of the "I Win Button", well with this new system I have yet to encounter an I Win Button but have been bested countless times by the "I Don't Lose Button" which is exactly what cloak is.I have been in combat with a jedi and watched them cloak less than 5m from me numerous times. There is no defense, no counter, no hope if someone decides they want to cloak. I play this game for the fun and thrill of the pvp. I realize more and more every day that Cloak makes all forms of pvp almost completely unenjoyable, un-fun, and rather frustrating at times. This is not a Call for Nerf post. Of all the BH/Jedi issues it seems to me this is the most important yet most overlooked. An improvement to this mechanic would result ina more balanced, fun, and challenginggaming experience for both sides, yetI'm sure many jedi will disagree. So, let's bring some attention to this and maybe our new correspondent can come up with some good suggestions.

Every time youare forced to"lose", abandon a mission, orleave a starport due to a cloaker who chooses not to playfair, please post your story here.Let this be the place to vent your frustration with the most unbalanced, unenjoyablemechanicin this game. Many jedi will call this crying butI would call it compiling evidence.

GlargTheKelfn

Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:16 am

#2

jedi escape = win for jedi.

and cloak is getting nerfed to uselessness, so is fr. soon you will have your wish, and any jedi caught outside a house (which will be very few) will have no way to escape. won't that be fun?

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xakia

Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:19 am

#3

I think the new changes will kind of stop this cloak and run crap.....unfortunately that will be the end to all of my beloved fights against jedi that use cloak offensively in combat which I always thought was extremely cunning for those jedi that used it well.

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Twilekku

Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:19 am

#4

maybe all jedi should also autologin at kadaara hotel

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xakia

Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:23 am

#5

No, only stupid, nubcake board trolls.

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MolemanMole

Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:31 am

#6

To me the cloak thing while regend is crap. But i think Jedi should use cloak to get away. It is supposedto be for sneaking by things and trouble. But see for me being a BH having a droid updating a empty spot on the screen i think is a little weird. I think the droid should update the waypoint and expose the jedi for a short time which in turn does not let the Jedi cloak for like a minute or if combat is initiated then not at all. Thats sounds fair to both party's i think. I actually exposed a Jedi one time with area shot or fan shot or something like that. I aggored an animal near by and area shotted him and pulled him out of cloak.. A Jedi told to try that one time. So idid and it worked oneout 3 times.

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BooNYoW

Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:45 am

#7

don't get mad because a jedi likes to play peek-a-boo with you...some of us enjoy a good game of peek-a-boo every once in a while....

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bmill

Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:47 am

#8

GlargTheKelfn wrote:
jedi escape = win for jedi.

Jedi Escape = I try harder to kill them the next time.

I LET them get away from me, either through bad planning or bad tactics. Itis what it is though. They got away, and I lost money. Just fuels me and makes me more determined to engineer a better plan to take em out!

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procel

Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:52 am

#9

Yeah w-t-f ..i mean cloak is overpowered , yeah sure... lets cry nerf..i think that a BH getting alpha stike is gamebreaking , overused, and overpowered...Please devs, nerf it /whine /cry..

cloak is being nerfed ok, so why u feel the need to continue whining..jeez

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bmill

Thu Oct 13, 2005 10:07 am

#10

procel wrote:
Yeah w-t-f ..i mean cloak is overpowered , yeah sure... lets cry nerf..i think that a BH getting alpha stike is gamebreaking , overused, and overpowered...Please devs, nerf it /whine /cry..

cloak is being nerfed ok, so why u feel the need to continue whining..jeez

ROFL!!!!!

I think alot of Bounty Hunters aren't looking at the big picture here though. Jedi Cloak vs Bounty Hunters works fine to me. If they can get out of range, and cloak, then they get away, and I try again. What's the big deal with that?

Jedi Cloak vs PvE... not that's another matter. Cloaked Jedi are able to slip through security doors in the DWB, they are able to loot containers while cloaked on the Avatar.... but the biggest one I don't understand is.... Ifa PLAYER character cannot "see" or even detect a cloaked Jedi, how is it that an npc can? How is it than an ENITRE base full of npcs can and will detect/aggro a cloaked Jedi and chase them around when players cannot do the same? It doesn't make sense to me.

I think all the "fixing" that cloak needs is to preclude the possibility of manipulating objects like a container, while cloaked, and stop them from being able to pass through secruity doors while cloaked, and stop npcs from aggro'ing them while cloaked. Those things are FAR more "gamebreaking" than getting away from me when I hunting them.

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GlargTheKelfn

Thu Oct 13, 2005 10:08 am

#11

bmill wrote:

procel wrote:
Yeah w-t-f ..i mean cloak is overpowered , yeah sure... lets cry nerf..i think that a BH getting alpha stike is gamebreaking , overused, and overpowered...Please devs, nerf it /whine /cry..

cloak is being nerfed ok, so why u feel the need to continue whining..jeez

ROFL!!!!!

I think alot of Bounty Hunters aren't looking at the big picture here though. Jedi Cloak vs Bounty Hunters works fine to me. If they can get out of range, and cloak, then they get away, and I try again. What's the big deal with that?

Jedi Cloak vs PvE... not that's another matter. Cloaked Jedi are able to slip through security doors in the DWB, they are able to loot containers while cloaked on the Avatar.... but the biggest one I don't understand is.... If a PLAYER character cannot "see" or even detect a cloaked Jedi, how is it that an npc can? How is it than an ENITRE base full of npcs can and will detect/aggro a cloaked Jedi and chase them around when players cannot do the same? It doesn't make sense to me.

I think all the "fixing" that cloak needs is to preclude the possibility of manipulating objects like a container, while cloaked, and stop them from being able to pass through secruity doors while cloaked, and stop npcs from aggro'ing them while cloaked. Those things are FAR more "gamebreaking" than getting away from me when I hunting them.

all fixed in pub 24 aka the next big jedi nerf

\ Shuggoth's Sugar Shack of Loot /
\ 324, -3627 - Outside Coronet /
\ -Servants of Hastur Outlet- /

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RIP All of the above 07.13.03 - 03.20.06
Killed by poor gameplay and developer mismanagment

bmill

Thu Oct 13, 2005 10:31 am

#12

GlargTheKelfn wrote:

bmill wrote:

procel wrote:
Yeah w-t-f ..i mean cloak is overpowered , yeah sure... lets cry nerf..i think that a BH getting alpha stike is gamebreaking , overused, and overpowered...Please devs, nerf it /whine /cry..

cloak is being nerfed ok, so why u feel the need to continue whining..jeez

ROFL!!!!!

I think alot of Bounty Hunters aren't looking at the big picture here though. Jedi Cloak vs Bounty Hunters works fine to me. If they can get out of range, and cloak, then they get away, and I try again. What's the big deal with that?

Jedi Cloak vs PvE... not that's another matter. Cloaked Jedi are able to slip through security doors in the DWB, they are able to loot containers while cloaked on the Avatar.... but the biggest one I don't understand is.... If a PLAYER character cannot "see" or even detect a cloaked Jedi, how is it that an npc can? How is it than an ENITRE base full of npcs can and will detect/aggro a cloaked Jedi and chase them around when players cannot do the same? It doesn't make sense to me.

I think all the "fixing" that cloak needs is to preclude the possibility of manipulating objects like a container, while cloaked, and stop them from being able to pass through secruity doors while cloaked, and stop npcs from aggro'ing them while cloaked. Those things are FAR more "gamebreaking" than getting away from me when I hunting them.

all fixed in pub 24 aka the next big jedi nerf

The Cloak snare was uncalled for. That's an out of line response for something that's better fixed with more indepth programming. IT does the job, for less money, right? And at what cost? At the cost of pissing off the Jedi who now have to re-grind a template NOT including a borked skill.... lunacy.

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g2chris

Thu Oct 13, 2005 11:37 am

#13

I haven't heard of any upcoming cloak/fr nerfs, could someone please enlighten me or point me in the right direction?

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