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Thread: Why is there still a XP loss from BH Missions?
I do really agree with the city saber tef thing, that would be really cool. Then again I could see some jerks in Mos Eisely picking on noobs....
Orthell wrote:
But that makes no sense, it's almost entirely full temps on the terminals now and it's by their choice. And even then, XP loss means nothing unless they want to alter their template, which they would choose to stay off the terminals.
I know what alot of bounty hunters think, I used to think the same. I don't showoff like others do and don't cloak and stalk overts. If you want to end the showoffs at starports, put in a city only saber TEF or something. Because XP loss threat won't do it, even if it was at 2 million like you think it should be. And we both know, it would never go that high, and would do absolutely nothing to current situation.
This should be about enjoyment also, not BHers wanting to inflict a stupid XP loss that's now outdated.
If you want to see something that would be more effective, half the force pool reduced to half for 24hrs from a BH death. Then you will se a reduction of show offs at starports. But you will also see a big reduction in Jedi that help other players like I do.
TO. PUNISH. VISIBILITY.
If that hasn't worked, then you need a stricter penalty, not an elimination of it.
Shaan'ti Hokai (Kauri) 
Why don't we have an overhaul of the entire system to make the universe more like that in the proper SW universe.
For instance if a Jedi uses any powers or sabers (that can be seen by others) in any NPC city then they should get punished by the Empire (whether Imp Faction or not) For instance a detachment of Stormies could descend on the city and fight them.
There shouldn't be an XP loss for such a thing but would stop Jedi using their powers in public, after all in this SW timeline we aren't supposed to have Jedi on show for all to see, they are supposed to be hiding and using their powers in private.
ok i know im probably not a welcome on this sight since i am jedi have been since before cu. but i was and still am a bh since pre pub 9. so im going to speak on both sides
1) should there be a xp lost to bh death? yes if jedi was easy would every one want it maybe but its not and thats what i like about it. its not tk, rifle or ne other proffession for that matter and right now we are still the stronest prof out there.
2) is it pointless? no there is a reason behind the madness on this. as i said before its not ment to be easy. you want an easy prof musician/dancer i hear is really easy afk all the time for me its the challenge, the i have to watch my back constantly its fun yes annoying at times but fun sometimes i win sometimes i run.
and to all those bh that have killed me or made me run thx for keeping me here and playing the game would be boring if it wernt for you keep up the good work hope to see some of you later so i can have a challenge for the day.
How about dropping the bh Jedi missions, dropping xp loss, dropping visibility, bring in Sabre TEF in public places and perma death. Reduces the JEDI \ BH hatred. OK the BH lose their content a lot, but heck they can still loot, make bh the loot class. Make Jedi fear the gank if they light up at a starport. I for one would happily don the stormtrooper armour and join a theed patrol. Now that could be some fun roll playing. I think we would see loss of both BH and Jedi from this system, but probably more common class combatants more storm troopers more rebel troopers. I would hope the perma death from sabre waving would lower the jedi population enough to free up the GCW as well.
Of course Jedi will whine, despite still being the alpha class, why should they lose everything they have worked so hard for etc etc.(or left their computer working hard for) The current system doesnt work, but we do what we can with the tools we have. The problem is SOE arent going to want to haemorage accounts like they would from this due to all the lost jedi.
PerhapsSOE are monitoring user stats and waiting for the time whenenough ofthe jedi have discovered life out side the glow bat, then they will feel confident enough to unleash the guard dogs properly instead of the largelly ineffective role we play at the moment.
Nullified wrote:
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So i beg you, to discuss the XP loss from BHs, maybe there can be found a better solution, which will bring peace to both sides
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There was. Perma-death. Peace for us because we could get rid of l337 dewdz0rs who waved their glowstick all over the place - and peace for them, because they were just dead.
/agree
A good friend of mine was a Jedi during Permadeth. He loved it because, and I quote " The stupid, theweak, and thelosers were quickly disposed of."
So how many MBH would gladly give up their Jedi content for the sake of sabre TEF and permadeath?
Do you want the terminals and hunts or do you want to rid the starports of leet talking jedi Dawgs?
For me I would give up the Jedi hunting content in a heartbeat. As much fun as it might be to stalk, I would far rather clear the starports. Call me a part time BH, but I would loot a few weeks then hang up the BH helmet for good.
Message Edited by DTQ on 09-07-2005 04:34 AM
I feel that the problem in general is that Jedi (as a proffession) takes so much from the community and adds so little. The game would be vastly improved in my opinion if Jedi were forced into hiding, but right now there is no punishment that scares the Jedi into hiding, and if there were all of the Jedi community would by up in arms about it.
There is no halfway point the Jedi want to be the most powerful players in the game and also want to be able to let everyone know that they are so powerful. This might make a Jedi feel great but for all of the other proffessions it ruins many parts of the game, (GCW, Roleplaying)
I cant see a way for this to be fixed, one thing I do know is that xp loss isnt working, a member of my guild has only been a Jedi for 2 weeks and is already halfway up his template, and he isnt avoiding vis at all.
This game would be improved if the Jedi could play as they are meant to, in hiding and use their alt a lot of the time, but it seems unlikely this will happen.
DTQ wrote:
So how many MBH would gladly give up their Jedi content for the sake of sabre TEF and permadeath?
Do you want the terminals and hunts or do you want to rid the starports of leet talking jedi Dawgs?
For me I would give up the Jedi hunting content in a heartbeat. As much fun as it might be to stalk, I would far rather clear the starports. Call me a part time BH, but I would loot a few weeks then hang up the BH helmet for good.
Message Edited by DTQ on 09-07-2005 04:34 AM
I would much prefer for Jedi to be gone, it would make some of the harder quests in teh game seem more of an achievement then too.
Wow, the BH community mentality is just amazing. How many threads are there about jedi runners, cloakers and running into faction bases? Tons and Tons.
Removing exp lose from BH missions seems like a quick and easy solution to solve this problem. No longer would paddies run or try to escape in fear of making their grind longer. I'd wager most if not all Jedi would stand and fight then. Isnt that what you guys desire most, more pvp content. Think about it for a few moments.
Remember, exp lose was put in to prevent BH/Jedi friends to farm credits. With names showing on the terms you know damn well that would be going on. Now with no names on the terms showing, it only makes sense.
If you still maintain that jedi should lose exp upon death, well, your nothing but a griefer.
Message Edited by EikoMaubee on 09-07-2005 04:42 AM