Bounty Hunter Archive

Thread: Want to get rid of the hate?

Fugley
Wed Oct 12, 2005 12:15 am
#14

Maybe its just me but you are failing to make any kind of point except just throwing out some facts.


As of right now, BH are meant to kill Jedi, and it should ALWAYS be that way. That is the essence of a Bounty Hunter, though it isn't just limited to Jedi.


I never farmed money with Jedi, but it led to a much nicer system: You die, you lose XP. You **** around in starports and cities with your silly lightsabers, you get vis and you get hunted.


That's MY point, even though I wasn't trying to start and argument with you all I was doing was asking a question. =]





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HeadRoll
Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:11 am
#15






Dlek_Krego wrote:



Or better yet, with the ability to cause a lose to another player removed, alot of the "griefer" type BH's would leave the BH profession, and move on to other profession, and reignite the GCW to get their PvP fills... the GCW would actually exist again, and not the Jedi Vs BH war thatis the present GCWnow.





The GCW at its peak was fun times. That is until the first full temp Jedi started showing up and destroyed 15 of the elite original combat professions by themselves. Soon after, envious to the onslaught and the mentality of we can't beat them, join them.. the vast majority of people partaking in the GCW decided they must also do the holo grind...


The end result is what you see today.


Dlek_Krego
Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:19 am
#16






HeadRoll wrote:






Dlek_Krego wrote:



Or better yet, with the ability to cause a lose to another player removed, alot of the "griefer" type BH's would leave the BH profession, and move on to other profession, and reignite the GCW to get their PvP fills... the GCW would actually exist again, and not the Jedi Vs BH war thatis the present GCWnow.





The GCW at its peak was fun times. That is until the first full temp Jedi started showing up and destroyed 15 of the elite original combat professions by themselves. Soon after, envious to the onslaught and the mentality of we can't beat them, join them.. the vast majority of people partaking in the GCW decided they must also do the holo grind...


The end result is what you see today.







but if Jedi were to be removed from the GCW, as I really feel we should be, then that wouldn't be an issue anymore, and the GCW could thrive again, maybe even breath a bit of life back into this corpse of a game.





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HeadRoll
Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:24 am
#17






Dlek_Krego wrote:

but if Jedi were to be removed from the GCW, as I really feel we should be, then that wouldn't be an issue anymore, and the GCW could thrive again, maybe even breath a bit of life back into this corpse of a game.





This has been discussed many times over in the GCW forums. Your original comment about, BH vs Jedi as somehow factoring into the lack of GCW interest has zero merit. The Death of the GCW has to do with jedi and jedi only.


You chose a profession to be hunted. Because of this, you get a second character slot that no other profession gets. Besides this you have a profession that is thee most self sufficient profession in game, with escape skills that no other profession can match. XP loss needs to stay otherwise you will see the servers and the game get in far worse shape then it is now.


Stryfermon
Wed Oct 12, 2005 2:33 am
#18



Tapa wrote:


DanielDirem wrote:
Its an original idea, I will give you that. As for a good idea, I don't think so.
Maybe I'm the only Veteran Player who was here before Jedi and still continues to play after them but there is no way a NPC Jedi Mark will replace the adrenaline produced when facing another player. The NPC Jedi would be to easy for a Semi-Decent BH and the NPC BH would be way to easy for a Jedi, there is no strategy involved and thus, no fun.
The only thing that would happen if this every got implemented in the game would be that Jedi would flourish even more then they are now and Bounty Hunters would dwindle in numbers.
Also, like Nathaniel said and it has happened many times, we complain about alot of things and then they are fixed... and a few weeks later we look back and wish they were the same. Bounty Hunters would be beating their heads against their keyboards and Jedi would find themselves doing the same... why? Boredom.

Message Edited by DanielDirem on 10-11-2005 01:23 PM



Read my entire post. I said that if you want to PVP you can go SF. A SF bounty hunter would be able to pull a SF Jedi mission and track him. If your scenario comes true than most BHers and most Jedi will go SF and be hunted, while the ones grinding in groups or afk in their houses only get pestered by NPC's.

edit: and more SF players may actually bring life back into the GCW..

Message Edited by Tapa on 10-11-2005 09:55 PM





I could certainly live with this idea, but you both have valid points, so maybe something inbetween might be the way to go?

Its still up to the BH corr to get this idea to the devs, so they can decide what to do.



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Geiel
Wed Oct 12, 2005 2:44 am
#19

To the original post, I think its a good idea, but the part about going SF for a bounty. Aren't BHers supposed to be unaffiliated to any military organization? And that kinda limits the bounties to factional boundries. I admit I have only fought a few Jedi, allin non-bounty situations (overt PvP) and it wasn't fun 2 on 1. I couldnt imagine riding around the countryside, overt and going into Theed or some other hotspot.


To get rid of the Hate, everyone should accept the role they chose. Consequences are known and well documented. Tactics are known and well documented. Abilites are known and well documented. So what if BHers get good loot from NPC marks. Those CA's and AA's also drop from other mobs. May be a little tougher, due to aggro, but I think taking down a gold chevron boss mob with 30-35k health solo is lil nasty as well. Damn pikets are tough too... haha


The End




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UberNinjaOfDoom
Wed Oct 12, 2005 3:24 am
#20


Geiel wrote:

To the original post, I think its a good idea, but the part about going SF for a bounty. Aren't BHers supposed to be unaffiliated to any military organization? And that kinda limits the bounties to factional boundries. I admit I have only fought a few Jedi, allin non-bounty situations (overt PvP) and it wasn't fun 2 on 1. I couldnt imagine riding around the countryside, overt and going into Theed or some other hotspot.

To get rid of the Hate, everyone should accept the role they chose. Consequences are known and well documented. Tactics are known and well documented. Abilites are known and well documented. So what if BHers get good loot from NPC marks. Those CA's and AA's also drop from other mobs. May be a little tougher, due to aggro, but I think taking down a gold chevron boss mob with 30-35k health solo is lil nasty as well. Damn pikets are tough too... haha

The End







Many Jedi believe that the current BH system is not accomplishing anything except grief, and that there is no good reason why they should be hunted at all(PC or NPC). BH believe that its their SOE given right to police Jedi, and they should just accept it. As long as both sides refuse to budge they will just continue to piss each other off, and the hate will continue. I think this idea would certainly help the situation.

Message Edited by UberNinjaOfDoom on 10-12-2005 03:24 AM



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Geiel
Wed Oct 12, 2005 3:38 am
#21

It's not our SOE given right. The Emperor decreed it, and the Bount Hunter Guild pays us a portion upon successful completion.


Jedi should be hunted because they are Jedi. It is a dangerous path. Filled with much danger and sorrow.


I'm not trying to start a fight. It's THE GAME. It's the Time Period within THE GAME. Well, almost. I don't remember a lot of Jedi running around, but since we are between IV and V (right?) who knows how many cropped up and got slaughtered between times. Maybe if the game transistions time periods, all Jedi players will get Perma'd... hahahaha Gawd it's late/early. You would hear the sounds of millions of voices, all crying out at once. And suddenly, stop, as the accounts are canceled.

Man my brain is wondering tonight...



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matthaustoplar
Wed Oct 12, 2005 3:41 am
#22

great idea


npc elite jedi could drop prems rarly as well, also allow bh to hunt their mark in space, giving both bh and jedi a reason to get master pilot, and this way no matter how much they mess with ground based game (new snares and action costs) both can meet in jtl on a level matching.(unless they start adding root and snare to jtl)





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jugs
Wed Oct 12, 2005 4:23 am
#23


FiveStars to you mate......

can you imagine how many problems this would solve in one easy to implement change. All the components already exist in the game for it to happen and It Caters for all player types.

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Keppisuutari
Wed Oct 12, 2005 4:29 am
#24






Geiel wrote:

It's not our SOE given right. The Emperor decreed it, and the Bount Hunter Guild pays us a portion upon successful completion.


Jedi should be hunted because they are Jedi. It is a dangerous path. Filled with much danger and sorrow.


I'm not trying to start a fight. It's THE GAME. It's the Time Period within THE GAME. Well, almost. I don't remember a lot of Jedi running around, but since we are between IV and V (right?) who knows how many cropped up and got slaughtered between times. Maybe if the game transistions time periods, all Jedi players will get Perma'd... hahahaha Gawd it's late/early. You would hear the sounds of millions of voices, all crying out at once. And suddenly, stop, as the accounts are canceled.

Man my brain is wondering tonight...






Wasnt it Vader in EP5 that called BH's to find Han and Millennium Falcon? Emperor had nothing to do with it. And remember imperial officers words he whispers to another:"Bounty hunters, we dont need that scum".





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Wolf24601
Wed Oct 12, 2005 4:34 am
#25


Terrific idea.


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Geiel
Wed Oct 12, 2005 5:01 am
#26



The Emperor instituted Order 66. Vader was a different matter. He was after a smuggler. Just clearing it up. Sorry for any misunderstanding.


"Citizens of the Republic, a terrible truth has been revealed. The Jedi order, tasked with waging the Clone Wars over these past three years, has been hiding a shocking secret. They have been steadfastly eroding away the principles of the Republic, drawing power to themselves in a wicked bid to subvert our cherished institutions. The Jedi are treasonous! They have attempted to assassinate the Chancellor! They are enemies of the state!

Thankfully, the soldiers under their command are bred with unquestionable loyalty and integrity. At the executive behest of the Chancellor, they are rooting out the source of this betrayal. The remaining Jedi will be hunted down and be brought to justice. With the inefficiencies and treacherous elements of the Republic swept away, the New Order of the First Galactic Empire will stand ever stronger for a safe and secure society."


That's allI am saying. Apples to apples. Oranges to oranges.


But we're WAAY off subject

Message Edited by Geiel on 10-12-2005 07:02 AM



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