Bounty Hunter Archive

Thread: Anonymous Mission Testing and What I Told the Devs

Cpl_Fisher
Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:05 pm
#235






Quiet420 wrote:





Grisham wrote:
Not true at all, it takes you the same amount of time to tab through them now as it's going to when pub 20 comes.




while correct in your statement, the difference is that if a BH knows the marks name, they can have it set to their macros before showing up....thats why leatherneck's idea about having a direct way to /target your bounty when you show up is such a good one. would allow those who would prefer not to do scouting before launching an ambush a way to rush in, guns blazing, at their target, while not interfering with the objectives of the fixes.







in my experience, running in guns blazing is the ONLY way to take out jedi who use the los exploits on the trails.


in my case, becuase of my template, I have about 25 secs to incap my mark once I show up on radar.


20 sec root, plus a snare and a kd


that's all I get. it takes luck and practice to get it right.


with 3 day mission decay. It makes it nearly impossible. It can take up to a week to find that perfect time.


yes, I have stalked a jedi for a week, she lost the last day of double xp plus a reg week of grinding, becuase I camped her logouts for 10+ hours, and showed up withen an hour of her logging in for that time. was it worth it? yes. becuase the story spread, and very few marks have tried that with me after I did that.


Now, the very hard earned reb I have cultivated, as one who never gives up, is worth a lot less nw. not only do I have to contend with only 3 tries, but 3 days as well






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Reyza
Thu Jul 14, 2005 12:16 am
#236


Well, if you know of a treasonous jedi....then by all means try to hunt them down (without being able to use their name), RP their treasonous actionsand take the faction hit.


The scenario you described isnot socommon to disregard theBH's who hunt same side faction jedi for the possible following reasons.


1)I'm scum and therefore do whateverI want.


2) I'm justin it for the credits.


3) I just really, really, really, reallyhate jedi.


I'm just pushing for realism in the risk vs reward.




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Vlamr
Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:49 am
#237

In some cases the jedi will now know the BH that is hunting him before the BH even knows who to target! HAHAHAH I gotta hand it to SOE, they really know how to fowl things up even more so than they already are!



Vlamr Englis of Wanderhome
Skeletun
Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:01 am
#238






Tanks wrote:


Finally got on TC to test.


I got the mission and started tracking.


When I finally got to the Jedi he was fighting Giant Worts. He was alone, but I simulated regular hunting as most will be with groups and tried to target him via tabbing.


It took me several seconds to TAB over to him. The Jedi knew I was after him before I could even target him. The smart Jedi will start running way before I would be able to target him in most situations. Now, add the fact that /duel is used almost exclusively in most situations to figure out a bounty target by the Jedi, he will know before the BHs.


We really need the Jedi name at some point in the process. The devs at the "FanFest Jedi Focus Group Session" even mentioned that the BH first strike ability makes them equal to full template Jedi in power (which is a fallacy in itself). Well, it is kinda hard to have first strikeor any kind of advantage when you have to be almost on top of the Jedi to know who he is!!!


Please make the name of the Jedi available after the Arakyd probe reports the planet location. This would resolve a lot of issues and still stop the so called griefing by gank squads, targeting specific Jedi etc., etc.





Here is a thought...


Can you use the radar? I'm not in game now, but I thought you could use the filter to show certain targets. IF this is so, then you could expand the radar to max range, and filter it to show only Yellow dots. If Ithats not currently possible, then maybe that is another proposal.


I do believe that BH's should get the name sometime in the Process. Tying it in with the Seeker suggestion makes a bit more sense to me. This wont help with the Kashyyk issue; but Kashyyk is a lost cause for the moment, so the only solution to that one would be to network as some are doing now.


Good luck.


GenAkbar
Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:22 am
#239

Hi,
New to the BH profession, but I really like it so far. I am only 2-4-4-4 and not able to hunt Jedi yet, but I am working on my Investigation tree and really looking forward to giving it a shot.
I have been lurking these boards for about a month now and the community for BHs seem to be one of the tightest and most stable groups, even in adversity as we face now with the Pub 20 changes.
I know some people may flame me, but I have to say the Devs are NOT stupid and NOT out to ruin our play experience. They do not want to lose any money from alienating or killing anyprofession. They are making changes to the way the Jedi and BH confront each other due to stories and complaints they are hearing from BOTH sides.
Now, we do ALL agree that their needed to be some changes for griefing reasons, this is true. Some people were abusing the privledges we had and we payed the price for it. The whole idea of taking the names off the terminals is needed, i have no doubt about that, but we really do deserve to get the name of the Jedi at some point and time. I personally think it would be fair to get it from either the Ark droid or the second droid once we are on the planet. I really do think the Devs will see this and fix it, do not get discouraged by this change. They will see that the change is unfair, even tho it is meant to even things out a bit. In this game it is all about balance and counter-balance, the scales just seem to lean more towards one end for awhile than it should. i also agree the Duel exploit needs changed as well and hopefully the Devs will see that.
Lets keep our fingers crossed and hope our gripes and petitions and our awesome correspondant can help the Devs see the changes that need to be made.


Merowayc


Ulrek_Oden
Fri Jul 15, 2005 5:48 am
#240

So tanks did you get permission to tell us wat 'love' is comming in the 21 publish?



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StoneRook1
Fri Jul 15, 2005 5:51 am
#241






Ulrek_Oden wrote:

So tanks did you get permission to tell us wat 'love' is comming in the 21 publish?





There removing PC marks from the bh terminals.



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Ulrek_Oden
Fri Jul 15, 2005 6:14 am
#242






StoneRook1 wrote:





Ulrek_Oden wrote:

So tanks did you get permission to tell us wat 'love' is comming in the 21 publish?





There removing PC marks from the bh terminals.






Can you explain that please.



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Vlamr
Fri Jul 15, 2005 7:42 am
#243

If its the kinda love Im thinking that the devs like to dish out then we better get out the KY.



Vlamr Englis of Wanderhome
AllHandlestaken
Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:41 am
#244


By the time BH gets our so called "love" in publish 21, there will be no Bounty Hunters around to receive itthx anyway devs



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TexTorres
Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:40 pm
#245

Rifleman? Concealshot? I think that it just represents a different kind of challenge that takes some rethinking about templates and strategies. There are some good things coming out of this. Jedi will be out in the open more, no need to hide on Kashyyyk. Jedi can't take their own missions to protect them. Non-MBH won't be interfering in jedi missions. I think the Bounty Hunter profession will be better off with pub 20. I like it.



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blonderedhead
Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:41 pm
#246

As a jedi, I agree, you guys should know the name of your target sometime in the process. Maybe once you land on the planet that your target is on you finally get the name. Its going to be hard for bhs to even stalk their targets without knowingthe jedi'sname.

Message Edited by blonderedhead on 07-15-2005 07:42 PM



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QuiJonOz
Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:05 pm
#247






TexTorres wrote:
Rifleman? Concealshot? I think that it just represents a different kind of challenge that takes some rethinking about templates and strategies. There are some good things coming out of this. Jedi will be out in the open more, no need to hide on Kashyyyk. Jedi can't take their own missions to protect them. Non-MBH won't be interfering in jedi missions. I think the Bounty Hunter profession will be better off with pub 20. I like it.




Yay... instead of 5 - 10 glow-stick showboats, there will be 10 - 20, because now we can't pull their mission when they are playing in the traffic in front of the Theed starport.




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Fix the economy and give crafters their $$$ worth... give us real revamp.

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