Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: last ditch being used as a first strike -exploit-
MISTagent01 wrote:I completely agree with both of the above posters.
Smugglers need more firepower...I mean, sometimes after I haxxorz them down with my ub3r saber, I wonder if it's almost a little unfair.
Then I realize I'm a Jedi, and I don't care about them because they're peons in my book.
PLEASE make Smugglers and BHs more powerful so that I can have a real challenge one of these days.
/gulp
The truth is finally reveled. Life as a Jedi is so boring, as I am he dopest.
Even if Last Ditch hit for 10000 points of damage, I'd still be better than they are.
In fact, I DARE the devs to make Last Ditch 100x more powerful than it is now, just so I can show those idiot Smugglers how uber I am with a lightsaber.
Ternque01 wrote:
I find that I can KD a BH that I think is a smuggler right before his health gets low enough to use Last Ditch effectively. If the shot doesn't miss me, then I am only incapped for 5 seconds, leaving the smuggler's health next to zero. They never get the DB in time, so I just heal then kill them quick!!!
I agree. Don't let them get the shot off! I'm not too worried about the LD at the moment. I gave up all of my Defender skills because I didn't need them. LD is the most powerful shot? Meh, it don't affect me.
slave138 wrote:
Daeges wrote:
Exploit defined: using a loophole in the game mechanics to artificially create an advantage not intended by the game designers. Last Ditch was supposed to a smuggler trick to get him out of a jam at the risk of putting him further in a jam if it fails. Artificially creating the dangerous conditions in order to make the special move work makes no legitimate in game sense, and therefore is an exploit. It can be a little hard to prove intent. Did the Smuggler/BH intend to have all the spiders aggro him or was that just an effect of the enviorrnment? Witness: "Hey, I'm going to go stalk a jedi, think I'll provoke a rancor along the way but ignore it while it beats me over the head before I engage the jedi". Anyone defending this tactic as "clever" is missing the point of why it is deemed an exploit (by a group notorious for calling everything an exploit). Hacking the game code would be clever too, as would just about any other exploit you can imagine, but the cleverness of the idea does not lend any legitimacy to its employment.
Simple-minded fixes:
Last ditch only does damage to the creature that last hit the smuggler.
This would adversely affect every smuggler not just the hybrid smuggler/BHs. Maybe you should take your idea to the Smuggler forum and tell them how their ability should be nerfed?You could be fighting with anyhigher level opponent and manage to aggro a bunch of durni.You are concentrating most of your attacks on your opponent, but the odds that your LD will fire right after he/she/it hits you are slim.
Another example would be fighting two players - one a pistoleer and the other a rifleman. You are getting low on health so decide to try using LD on the pistoleer to prevent him from rooting you but the rifleman fires and now you can't use your LD because the target is out of range.
Both of those examples assume the targeting of the last hitter is automatic. If it has to be done by the smuggler it would make this ability virtually useless when attacked by any group.
And you talk about using LD in the manner described doesn't make sense?! But making it so the smuggler can only attack the last person to hit him does?! Sounds like Jedi-logic to me...
Also, if the bounty hunter gets killed in the process of hunting a jedi, be it from the Jedi or third party, his mission fails, and there is no pay. Dead men don't collect bounties. It can then still work as intended and not be used as an exploit.
While the idea losing the bounty on deathis sound, the last I heard incap did not equal death.
Even better. Make it to where you can use it on anything that is agroed to you. Not onthe last thing to hit you. I wonder if its possible either way?
Yeah! I dare them, too!
MISTagent01 wrote:
Also, I'd like to add that I really like being hit with Last Ditch, because when I block it with Force Aura, it only shows the Smugglers who's boss around the galaxy. After I dodge their pathetic chance move, I watch them whimper as I cut them down.
Even if Last Ditch hit for 10000 points of damage, I'd still be better than they are.
In fact, I DARE the devs to make Last Ditch 100x more powerful than it is now, just so I can show those idiot Smugglers how uber I am with a lightsaber.
MISTagent01 wrote:
Also, I'd like to add that I really like being hit with Last Ditch, because when I block it with Force Aura, it only shows the Smugglers who's boss around the galaxy. After I dodge their pathetic chance move, I watch them whimper as I cut them down.
Even if Last Ditch hit for 10000 points of damage, I'd still be better than they are.
In fact, I DARE the devs to make Last Ditch 100x more powerful than it is now, just so I can show those idiot Smugglers how uber I am with a lightsaber.
Uber and more! Give us a challenge PUHLEASE!
MISTagent01 wrote:
Also, I'd like to add that I really like being hit with Last Ditch, because when I block it with Force Aura, it only shows the Smugglers who's boss around the galaxy. After I dodge their pathetic chance move, I watch them whimper as I cut them down.
Even if Last Ditch hit for 10000 points of damage, I'd still be better than they are.
In fact, I DARE the devs to make Last Ditch 100x more powerful than it is now, just so I can show those idiot Smugglers how uber I am with a lightsaber.
I second that.
Makris wrote:
MISTagent01 wrote:
Also, I'd like to add that I really like being hit with Last Ditch, because when I block it with Force Aura, it only shows the Smugglers who's boss around the galaxy. After I dodge their pathetic chance move, I watch them whimper as I cut them down.
Even if Last Ditch hit for 10000 points of damage, I'd still be better than they are.
In fact, I DARE the devs to make Last Ditch 100x more powerful than it is now, just so I can show those idiot Smugglers how uber I am with a lightsaber.
Uber and more! Give us a challenge PUHLEASE!
Come on now, stop making fun of them...poor Smugglers
JWing wrote:
Come on now, stop making fun of them...poor Smugglers
Poor shmoor. They're loot under my boot.
They're like a funny court jester, only here for our entertainment and mockery.