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Digitalalchemyzt wrote:

pussycat u say some really dumb stuff. you said u want jedi without having to fight? no fighting? are you serious? every sw everything contains fighting. rarely do u see a jedi who doesnt fight. jedi are combatants. its a part of being jedi. i think youre in the wrong game. you sound extremely ignorant.

Its the gcW

gcW. that W..it means war. how can u have a war without fighting?

the more u post, the more ignorant u sound...and regardless of what nil says, she was warned and admitted she got the email stating jedi is a PERMANENT PVP PROFESSION. and that basically youd get killed alot if u were not careful. it specifically says that....

and youll get yours one day...so keep waving that 15th thing in our faces..

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Where in the movies did it say that Jedi have to fight? It didn't... Jedi are supposed to use the Force only for knowledge and defense, never for attack. Fighting should always be the last option. Furthermore, there is a difference between enjoying the game content and engaging in pvp. Surely you are intelligent enough to know the difference?

The GCW will go on as it is now, you can choose to be on leave, combatant or special forces. Nobody will be forced to pvp, you choose whether you want to fight the GCW being attackable only by NPCs or by both NPCs and player characters.

Oh, and please refrain from flaming. Saying that someone is "ignorant" because you disagree with their opinions is ludicrous.

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DTQ wrote:

Hey everybody Ive just been trying to get into the test centre one of those information screens that pops up says that all players will soon be able to have two characters per server up to a maximum of 8, also looking at the conversion forums the Jedi are getting a max damage of 200ish on their sabres, so bring on the 15th and shortly afterwards where Jedi are gimped, given away for free, and everyone gets the second character bonus that "veteran" jedis worked so hard for

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Announcements&message.id=752

Lap it up Pussycat, we may be losing player bounties, but now those of us who refused the Jedi grind can have the same power sabres, and additional character slots. I hope you enjoyed all your grinding to get a cloak and a crystal

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Yeah, and you know what? I think that's AWESOME - Jedi should never have been some sort of "super elite" profession that was easier to obtain for powergamers and hard core players. I always believed that everyone should have an equal chance at having a Jedi character regardless of whether they were powergamers or casual players. Not only that, but making Jedi less desirable is also going to discourage those who would only pursue it for the sake of being "uber". I'm also looking at the positive side of everyone getting a 2nd slot -- it means that the folks who were far along their FS grind but did not have the chance to unlock before Nov. 15th will be on equal standing as those of us who unlocked before the NGE.

The grinding was just one other thing to do to keep myself busy, I'm sure if I hadn't had that to keep me occupied, there would have been days when I would have been bored silly. I did not grind Jedi to be "uber" and I chose a Jedi template that was strictly for support. I've spent some time in the servers and have actually gotten pretty hooked on some of the changes... you can still have fun; heck in some ways it's much more fun to level up than it was when the game first launched. I've actually thought about leveling a Jedi toon again all the way from CL1 to CL90, even though obviously I can just respec and keep my current CL80 level.

There are many ways in which the new game will be less frustrating than it was before (and we still managed to have fun in spite of the frustrating aspects). I totally look forward to some of the changes that I've noticed so far in the TC -- obviously besides the elimination of player bounties heh heh -- such as no item decay, no more wounds, vehicles that apparently don't require maintenance, being able to level up with quests that are actually fresh and follow a rather amusing storyline. Honestly, if you aren't out to be "uber", the NGE will have a lot to offer. And the way I see it, it's just a starting point, there's no reason that they can't make changes to the skills and abilities not just of BH's and Jedi, but of all the professions... if there's a consensus that a certain profession is underpowered, it will be much easier to balance, because there won't be the issue of player bounties to contend with.

So, all things told, I'm actually looking forward to the new challenges that may lay ahead in the new version of SWG... God knows we had plenty of challenges to overcome when the game first launched, and in a way it was good, because it brought many of us together and many of us went out of our way to help each other out... some professions seemed super-difficult to master, especially BH's, we had no easy way to get around, we had several broken professions... and still we got through it all. We had fun. We learned new ways to overcome the challenges. The NGE might just bring with it hidden opportunities, exciting challenges, and the promise of a totally new SWG experience. Of course we won't be happy with everything the way it's going to be on Nov. 15th, of course there will be bugs... but we all got through possibly greater challenges when the game first launched.

So, in short... if you're trying to make me feel bad, you're doing about as poor a job as BH's did being the "Jedi population control".

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pussycat wrote:


Yeah, and you know what? I think that's AWESOME - Jedi should never have been some sort of "super elite" profession that was easier to obtain for powergamers and hard core players. I always believed that everyone should have an equal chance at having a Jedi character regardless of whether they were powergamers or casual players. Not only that, but making Jedi less desirable is also going to discourage those who would only pursue it for the sake of being "uber". I'm also looking at the positive side of everyone getting a 2nd slot -- it means that the folks who were far along their FS grind but did not have the chance to unlock before Nov. 15th will be on equal standing as those of us who unlocked before the NGE.

Funny that your response on the jedi topic seemed to be against it, or so the sad face and the comment about all new players getting 4 perfectly tuned krayt pearls suggested? (Which by the way isnt so far from the truth, as on TC the LS damage comes from the hilts and LS pearls are adding 15 damage each for perfects so for having 4 flawless pearls you may gain 10 damage over a newb)

I look at it from the point of view that all players even new ones could do with it, with being locked in one profession, and no longer allowing hybrid templates. No ability to change profession is a pretty hard hit for a player to take. The Jedi in their forums seem to be all threatening to quit, despite the fact that they arent losing their2nd slot?

The grinding was just one other thing to do to keep myself busy, I'm sure if I hadn't had that to keep me occupied, there would have been days when I would have been bored silly. I did not grind Jedi to be "uber" and I chose a Jedi template that was strictly for support. I've spent some time in the servers and have actually gotten pretty hooked on some of the changes... you can still have fun; heck in some ways it's much more fun to level up than it was when the game first launched. I've actually thought about leveling a Jedi toon again all the way from CL1 to CL90, even though obviously I can just respec and keep my current CL80 level.

I hated grinding, I prefered to play the game properly to level, hence It took me over 4 months to level master droid engineer, because I done so by making and selling actual droids not power grinding the profession. I think too many people felt the need to be master of everything on day 1, and didnt take the time to explore the lower end content, and do profession missions etc. The amount of content out there for non lvl 80's was amazing, there are npcs every where handing out little bits of content. Many of which contain minor links to star wars EU content etc. The amount of little details power leveling gamers missed out on is amazing. I loved finding Rune stones in game, and Mungo Baobabs Grandad. Some NPC's and quite funny "in" jokes as well. I dont believe anyone anywhere has completed all content in the game. I also WILL bestarting from the beginning on some new toons.

There are many ways in which the new game will be less frustrating than it was before (and we still managed to have fun in spite of the frustrating aspects). I totally look forward to some of the changes that I've noticed so far in the TC -- obviously besides the elimination of player bounties heh heh -- such as no item decay, no more wounds, vehicles that apparently don't require maintenance, being able to level up with quests that are actually fresh and follow a rather amusing storyline. Honestly, if you aren't out to be "uber", the NGE will have a lot to offer. And the way I see it, it's just a starting point, there's no reason that they can't make changes to the skills and abilities not just of BH's and Jedi, but of all the professions... if there's a consensus that a certain profession is underpowered, it will be much easier to balance, because there won't be the issue of player bounties to contend with.

So, all things told, I'm actually looking forward to the new challenges that may lay ahead in the new version of SWG... God knows we had plenty of challenges to overcome when the game first launched, and in a way it was good, because it brought many of us together and many of us went out of our way to help each other out... some professions seemed super-difficult to master, especially BH's, we had no easy way to get around, we had several broken professions... and still we got through it all. We had fun. We learned new ways to overcome the challenges. The NGE might just bring with it hidden opportunities, exciting challenges, and the promise of a totally new SWG experience. Of course we won't be happy with everything the way it's going to be on Nov. 15th, of course there will be bugs... but we all got through possibly greater challenges when the game first launched.

I am thoroughly looking forward to the NGE myself, with one exception the sheer weight of Jedi numbers around is somewhat jarring for anyone wanting to play a "normal" person in the star wars galaxy. But I will just have to try to ignore them and think of them as shepherds and farmers, which most pre-NGE Jedi were.

So, in short... if you're trying to make me feel bad, you're doing about as poor a job as BH's did being the "Jedi population control".

Why would you think anyone would do that Pussycat? Serious Jedi population control was taken out of the game with the ned of perma death, after that the xp loss was a joke. But BH did what they could.

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Its some thin "I" earned and cannot be taken from me. that others will acquire the destination via these new short cuts, well... thats just jolly for them I suppose, and I wish them the best on that. Why? because Thier gaming experience that they work for, has Nothing to do with me and Mine.

OK. I grant you, All valid responses actually.

But I too am a troll, and I beleive I have some thing valid and valuable to give.

This means, the word troll ( imho) should only exist for those whom have nothing constructive to contribute. I dont feel at all that pussycat qualifies as troll. Sorry, i just dont.

I have listened intently, and tho over zealous and mildly inflamatory, his/her opinions have been valid and constructive all along in the face of some rather childish adversity. I my self LOVE it when people flame me, as I am an avid PvP-er in the game, AND on the boards. Tho I dont usually go out of my way to start flames.

So, I felt in answering the highly "INFLAMITORY" querry you put to Pussicat, a place to do a little PvP.

Wink. Hey. Im honest. And Im pretty good at it too.( Bats Eye lashes. )

Aside from that, these boards offer freedom of speech to all. And I have NO problem Using it to Butt my pretty nose into any ones question, addressed to any one else. Want to aske her some thing privately, where she/he will privately answer, there Is a venue for that too hun. Kissies.

ALARIA.

Message Edited by ALARIA on 11-10-2005 03:13 AM

Message Edited by ALARIA on 11-10-2005 03:16 AM

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ALARIA wrote:

DTQ mumbled:

Lap it up Pussycat, we may be losing player bounties, but now those of us who refused the Jedi grind can have the same power sabres, and additional character slots. I hope you enjoyed all your grinding to get a cloak and a crystal

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I'll lap This one PussiCat.

Thats it? Thats the best you can do as a taunt, is to tickle us with that which we are already ok with and have been lobbying for, for the fairness and balance of the entire swg community?

Some people who think the destination is more valuable than the journey, are truely missing out on what life, real or other wise has to offer. I wouldnt hand any of my grind back. Its some thin "I" earned and cannot be taken from me. that others will acquire the destination via these new short cuts, well... thats just jolly for them I suppose, and I wish them the best on that. Why? because Thier gaming experience that they work for, has Nothing to do with me and Mine. I leave to others thier Otherness.

So, to answer your question, the more mature and wise among us, the ones whom actually tend to "Role Play" a better jedi, are just fine with all our grindings, our cloak and our crystal. I wouldnt Dream of denying some one Else thier role play experience, just because mine took a different proceeding road.

In fact, Thier path is made easier, BECAUSE I took the time to forage the rough path ahead and pave the way. Kinda Proud of that actually. I will always be a jedi, with all its real meaning at heart. I expect the mature ones will be of a like mind.

I hope you fare well, and that your question has been answered adiquately enough for you to grasp comprehension dear. But if it was'nt IM patient enough and mature enough to go over it again with you as many times as it takes. Hugsies all. ALARIA.

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QFE, really well said... did I really say something mildly inflammatory... *sigh* that time of the month again.

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NewEye wrote:

Nightly update:

Last night was a little interesting. I tracked my mark to Talus. I exited the starport and there he was, dueling a friend. I popped him hard and then applied paralize. I then proceeded to apply multiple DOTs on him. He cloked and managed to jump planet on me. I traveled to Tatooine to go to my house and to send up another traking droid to determine which planet he was on. Low and behold he was on Tat. I tracked him back to a bunker where he was sitting, unable to get inside. He was quite content on sitting in his house all night. We spoke for a while via tells. It ended up after building a friendship that we went out and became Rebels together switching from Imperial. We then went to Imperors Retrest and laid waste to all of the stormtroopers that we could find. By the end of the night we were high ranking Rebels and both belonged to the same guild. I say this with a shout: WHAT HATRED BETWEEN JEDI AND BOUNTY HUNTERS?

Judihah

Intrepid

MBH / MCM

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There were rare instances when stuff like this could happen... but it was by far the exception rather than the rule...

Alaria, You just made me laugh , well done.

I actually have no problem what so ever with debate for debate sake , or people who troll posts for a bit of fun

But 300 ish posts from **edit** cat is well kind of a bit scary really I ignored it until it got to 150ish and then felt it was kind of an open invite.

My personal thoughts on trolling is thatEVERY question is best handled with a polite response. Jumping around and deliberately avoiding answering thorny questions, just somehow doesnt get the job done so well

I have little time for debate with "U Sux" or "OMG worst ting eva" crowd.

I would have asked the questions privately, but thought in public in front of the people he attempts to bait, was more fun . I felt Pussycat had lost his fun factor, and perhaps needed a little reinvogorating you see I got bored and I added him to ignore thinking maybe it would ignore his posts on the forums, and then post a parting shot along the lines of "ner ner I cant hear you any more" and leaving behind a boring repetetive troll, alas it didnt work like that, and I wouldnt want to be seen to not have the last word on the matter (or at least the last valid point). Hence a uncharacteristicly way of topic post aimed directly at him.

I dont as a rule troll other peoples posts but do like trolling trolls. At least with a troll you know they enjoy the encounter

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DTQ wrote:

Alaria, You just made me laugh , well done.

I actually have no problem what so ever with debate for debate sake , or people who troll posts for a bit of fun

But 300 ish posts from **edit** cat is well kind of a bit scary really I ignored it until it got to 150ish and then felt it was kind of an open invite.

My personal thoughts on trolling is that EVERY question is best handled with a polite response. Jumping around and deliberately avoiding answering thorny questions, just somehow doesnt get the job done so well

I have little time for debate with "U Sux" or "OMG worst ting eva" crowd.

I would have asked the questions privately, but thought in public in front of the people he attempts to bait, was more fun . I felt Pussycat had lost his fun factor, and perhaps needed a little reinvogorating you see I got bored and I added him to ignore thinking maybe it would ignore his posts on the forums, and then post a parting shot along the lines of "ner ner I cant hear you any more" and leaving behind a boring repetetive troll, alas it didnt work like that, and I wouldnt want to be seen to not have the last word on the matter (or at least the last valid point). Hence a uncharacteristicly way of topic post aimed directly at him.

I dont as a rule troll other peoples posts but do like trolling trolls. At least with a troll you know they enjoy the encounter

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Expressing an opinion... and doing so rather passionately... is not against the forum rules, AFAIK... sometimes when people try to do anything and everything to dismiss your opinion without so much as seriously considering what you are saying, you kind of feel that you have to stand your ground, to refuse to be treated like anything other than an equal whose opinions are no less important... and as a woman of color I all too often find myself in situations where there is a clear intention to marginalize me and marginalize my opinion, and I will not take that, we still live in a society predominantly dominated by white men... When people grow up enjoying male privilege and white privilege, they are very frequently are used to imposing their will on others. It's not a secret that this game, too, is extremely male-dominated, male players dominate even many female toons -- the first person to unlock a FSCS was an example. And men are typically far more aggresive and intent on imposing themselves over others... not surprised that so many of the people who wanted to force others to pvp were male players. There is a whole other dimension to my objection to forced pvp that I hadn't even bothered going into, but as a feminist IRL then I guess I might as well go into that, too. And please, before you say that some women enjoyed pvp as well, sure I know some of us did, but it doesn't change the fact that the overwhelming majority of all BH's who hunted Jedi were male... accustomed to male privilege and imposing their will on others, by force if necessary.

Message Edited by pussycat on 11-10-2005 04:10 AM