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Thread: Stop jedi gamebreaking hiding!
blue-phoenix wrote:
ok let me throw this at you...again since other players have already mentioned this before
you are complaining because your mark being in his house afk is gamebreaking because you have wasted time getting to him to find that he does not feel like coming out of his house if he is there talking with his friend or doing anything else.. or really afk which is the same thing.
so to you gamebreaking = wasted time, so lets say that a bh gets a mission on a jedi tracks him down and gets the kill... that jedi will lose xp any amount up to almost 500k of jedi xp
if the jedi in question is in a good area grinding group killing cl 82 pikets on dant he can get that back in about 2-3 hrs if they know what they are doing, unfortunately not many ppl know how to tank a lair of cl 82 pikets, if you want get in a full group and try to tank it see how you like it. if the same jedi decides to or actually grinds solo it will take him about 1-2 weeks of 3-4 hours a day of grinding which is 21-56 hrs of grinding.
a bh takes 15 min to find an afk jedi that it's sitting in their house since most jedi are guilded and live in player cities that by now most have a shuttle or another city shuttle near by it not, we are not talking about the pvp jedi that keeps planet hopping looking for a fight it takes 15 min of your time.
so what is more "gamebreaking" in your way to see this word. a bh wasting 15 min on a mission which happens with npc's too even more at time, or the jedi that has lost 2-3 hrs of his time if he's in a group and 21-56 hrs if he grinds solo?
keep in mind that the hermit style jedi is pretty much now gone since the CU and then even more once they removed group visibility. The CU has made this game a group grinding game so the solo grind is out of the question.
no one knows more than jedi what wasting time is, when there was still group visibility and names were on the missions i saw how the same bh attacked the same jedi over and over again, to the point were my friend had to log off because he was so much in the hole that it was pointless, he got attacked about 6 times in the period of 3 hours, 1 attack every 30 min on a padawan that was worth 50k.
sorry but your request will never happen as it is just dumb and pointless.
Jargal wrote:
Sure, all jedi has the right to privacy...exept when they are on the terms. Thats my point.
And some of you has still not understood the differance between hermit life and househiding.
I'll explain the last time for you that dont still get it....
Hermit life = Jedi style grinding life. Far out in the wilderness. Grinding solo for no risk of getting up on the terms. This is a good thing, that very, very few jedi actaully do. It requires much dicipline and most jedis lack that. I have no problems with hermits living several clicks from the closest town/outpost. This type of jedi I respect.
Househiding = Jedi is AFK inside his house. This makes him a avalible target on the terms. Being a avalible target makes BHs pick his mission and go searching for this mark. After a complete searchroutine the BH ends up outside his house. The BH aborts the mission after waiting a period of time, goes back and does it all over again with the same result on some other mark. Today 5 of 6 mission is like this. AFK househiding has become a major problem that consumes alot of time and annoyment. This type of jedi often lives in the middle of a player city or very close to a big city/outpost.
The reasons jedi does this seems to be two - one is that they like to annoy us BHs and the second they have stated in this thread is that they think jedi is not strong enough in pvp and thats thier right to go AFK in thier houseto hide. The househiding problem wasnt around this much pre-cu when jedi was 'stronger'. I know, since I've hunted jedis since publ 9.
The solution is to give BHs lockpick tools or an extra mission slot for BH missions. One extra mission slot would give us something to do while we wait for the househiders.
One other solution someone herewrote was to remove the AFK househiders from the terms after 20 min in a house and at the same time stop the vis-timer. And when the jedi goes outside the vis-timer starts again.
The solution is you get a CLUE. Drop the mission and pull another one instead of trying to invade another players personal space. If you don't like it thata Jedi who is on the terms is in a house AFK or doing his or her own thing like crafting then THOUGH.
People like you are incredible. I have every right to log on my Jedi and sit in my house and chat with my friends and you as a BH have every right to circle my house 2 million times in frustration. If I have to put up with the fact that there is nothing in it for me to fight you then you can put up with pulling another mission and deal with inconvience.
Sure, all jedi has the right to privacy...exept when they are on the terms. Thats my point.
And some of you has still not understood the differance between hermit life and househiding.
I'll explain the last time for you that dont still get it....
Hermit life = Jedi style grinding life. Far out in the wilderness. Grinding solo for no risk of getting up on the terms. This is a good thing, that very, very few jedi actaully do. It requires much dicipline and most jedis lack that. I have no problems with hermits living several clicks from the closest town/outpost. This type of jedi I respect.
Househiding = Jedi is AFK inside his house. This makes him a avalible target on the terms. Being a avalible target makes BHs pick his mission and go searching for this mark. After a complete searchroutine the BH ends up outside his house. The BH aborts the mission after waiting a period of time, goes back and does it all over again with the same result on some other mark. Today 5 of 6 mission is like this. AFK househiding has become a major problem that consumes alot of time and annoyment. This type of jedi often lives in the middle of a player city or very close to a big city/outpost.
The reasons jedi does this seems to be two - one is that they like to annoy us BHs and the second they have stated in this thread is that they think jedi is not strong enough in pvp and thats thier right to go AFK in thier houseto hide. The househiding problem wasnt around this much pre-cu when jedi was 'stronger'. I know, since I've hunted jedis since publ 9.
The solution is to give BHs lockpick tools or an extra mission slot for BH missions. One extra mission slot would give us something to do while we wait for the househiders.
One other solution someone herewrote was to remove the AFK househiders from the terms after 20 min in a house and at the same time stop the vis-timer. And when the jedi goes outside the vis-timer starts again.
Kakabus wrote:
I feel that running a recursive macro that prevents you from afk logging out is a problem...Didnt they say they were going to remove macros anyways...
Pootle wrote:
I have to say that I find it amazing that Jargal is still posting his ill conceived ideas despite the countless posts from BOTH Jedi and BH's battering him left right and centre. I think we have a maschoist on our hands guys, there is no other explanation.
Fargal: get a clue, the fact that two proffessions that are normally at each others throats are teaming with each other to slam your posts should give you an idea that this is not the best thing you have come up with. Go away, think about things and only come back when you have had all these negative posts explained to you properly as you have made it clear that you just don't have the slightest bit of comprehension about this area of the game (or at least a balance view)
ermmm what do macro's have to do with my post exactly?
GlargTheKelfn wrote:
remove xp loss and jedi will fight more often.
until then, deal with it. jedi are players just like you, who don't have to do anything you want them to.
funny how a jedi sitting in a house wasting your time is a problem, but setting a jedi back hours of gameplay is all good.
oh, i almost forgot...
cry more noob.
How about remove xp loss and make Jedi equal to other combat professions not 1.5x's stronger. Im with that.
Ikict wrote:
I heard theres a new expansion coming out.
Star Wars Galaxies: Jargals life
The story of one bounty hunter who fights against the evil househiding jedi, He has made many a sacrafice such as "should spend my money on upgrading the damage, or lowering the sac on my t-21". Follow his whines from house to house, forum to forum in order to get justice for his hours of sitting outside a house.
"Truly amazing"- Gamespy
"One long whine from start to finish"- IGN
"to think, this was based on a real life story"- Gamespot
GlargTheKelfn wrote:
remove xp loss and jedi will fight more often.
until then, deal with it. jedi are players just like you, who don't have to do anything you want them to.
funny how a jedi sitting in a house wasting your time is a problem, but setting a jedi back hours of gameplay is all good.
oh, i almost forgot...
cry more noob.
DaPrez wrote:
How about remove xp loss and make Jedi equal to other combat professions not 1.5x's stronger. Im with that.
QFE - many people compare jedi too much with BH and other professions, jedi is not like other professions, its harder and then also more powerful as it should be. Since there are so many jedi, they have to make it weaker of course (and they have) since non-jedi wont have any fun if there are so many they cant do anything against.
Kakabus wrote:
LOL....crafting? AFK = Away From Keyboard....Unless they are using a 3rd party marco to afk craft...which is an exploit...They are runninga /clap macro or something close to it which will prevent them from afk logging out...
Corina_Deepstarr wrote:
Jargal wrote:
Sure, all jedi has the right to privacy...exept when they are on the terms. Thats my point.
And some of you has still not understood the differance between hermit life and househiding.
I'll explain the last time for you that dont still get it....
Hermit life = Jedi style grinding life. Far out in the wilderness. Grinding solo for no risk of getting up on the terms. This is a good thing, that very, very few jedi actaully do. It requires much dicipline and most jedis lack that. I have no problems with hermits living several clicks from the closest town/outpost. This type of jedi I respect.
Househiding = Jedi is AFK inside his house. This makes him a avalible target on the terms. Being a avalible target makes BHs pick his mission and go searching for this mark. After a complete searchroutine the BH ends up outside his house. The BH aborts the mission after waiting a period of time, goes back and does it all over again with the same result on some other mark. Today 5 of 6 mission is like this. AFK househiding has become a major problem that consumes alot of time and annoyment. This type of jedi often lives in the middle of a player city or very close to a big city/outpost.
The reasons jedi does this seems to be two - one is that they like to annoy us BHs and the second they have stated in this thread is that they think jedi is not strong enough in pvp and thats thier right to go AFK in thier houseto hide. The househiding problem wasnt around this much pre-cu when jedi was 'stronger'. I know, since I've hunted jedis since publ 9.
The solution is to give BHs lockpick tools or an extra mission slot for BH missions. One extra mission slot would give us something to do while we wait for the househiders.
One other solution someone herewrote was to remove the AFK househiders from the terms after 20 min in a house and at the same time stop the vis-timer. And when the jedi goes outside the vis-timer starts again.
The solution is you get a CLUE. Drop the mission and pull another one instead of trying to invade another players personal space. If you don't like it thata Jedi who is on the terms is in a house AFK or doing his or her own thing like crafting then THOUGH.
People like you are incredible. I have every right to log on my Jedi and sit in my house and chat with my friends and you as a BH have every right to circle my house 2 million times in frustration. If I have to put up with the fact that there is nothing in it for me to fight you then you can put up with pulling another mission and deal with inconvience.
Aside from my typo on the word"though" should have been "Tough" you really need a reading comprehension course. How you tied together AFK with Crafting to = afkCraftingfrom what I wrote is a true mystery..well not a real mystery as I think you have alot in common with the word MORON. Next time don't be so quick to flame and you just might make a valid point.
Message Edited by Corina_Deepstarr on 09-21-2005 02:28 PM
I see that this thread isnt going anywhere, and that the OP is frustrated with Jedi house sitters. So Im going to tell what I myself do as to not waste alot of time house sitting.
Get mission, track mark..blah blah blah. But I myselfalways stop about 3k away from mymarks waypoint. Simply stop, dont move at all, and wait. Let you seeker droid update and take note of the wp number. Let it update a few times. If that wp number changes by even a small number, then you Jedi mark is At The Keyboard, and is moving around. He could be in his house rearanging furniture or out Grinding. But its now up to you to determine wich, and wether or not to attack.
--If the WP number is not changing, and you suspect that your target my be in a house, press Ctrl+V, and take a look at theplanetary map. Look to see if you targets WP is located in a city. If it is, then your target is more than likely AFK in his house burning off Vis. So there you go. Within a few minutes you have now determined that you mark is AFK in a house. Personally, I dont mind pitching a camp, and sitting around for 30 minutes to see if my mark moves. The Jedi may betaking a break to eat dinner. But thats just me. You always have the option of dropping a mission for a Jedi that is AFK, and its really not that hard to tell.
freedomwarrior wrote:
Sure, I have no problem with giving bh access to my house, when and only when, I can have a detection device at the entrance to my house that does 5k of damage when an un-invited guest comes a calling. Til then, its my house and if I want to sit it in it all day, thats my choice. I pay my 14.99 per month just like you, and if I want my house sitting to be my content, then so be it.
QFE.
_Apache wrote:I see that this thread isnt going anywhere, and that the OP is frustrated with Jedi house sitters. So Im going to tell what I myself do as to not waste alot of time house sitting.
Get mission, track mark..blah blah blah. But I myselfalways stop about 3k away from mymarks waypoint. Simply stop, dont move at all, and wait. Let you seeker droid update and take note of the wp number. Let it update a few times. If that wp number changes by even a small number, then you Jedi mark is At The Keyboard, and is moving around. He could be in his house rearanging furniture or out Grinding. But its now up to you to determine wich, and wether or not to attack.
--If the WP number is not changing, and you suspect that your target my be in a house, press Ctrl+V, and take a look at theplanetary map. Look to see if you targets WP is located in a city. If it is, then your target is more than likely AFK in his house burning off Vis. So there you go. Within a few minutes you have now determined that you mark is AFK in a house. Personally, I dont mind pitching a camp, and sitting around for 30 minutes to see if my mark moves. The Jedi may betaking a break to eat dinner. But thats just me. You always have the option of dropping a mission for a Jedi that is AFK, and its really not that hard to tell.
you know there is a way too fool you with that theory right... i could go to the roof top of my guild hall grab my droid and set up some patrol points have my droid run on patrol and have my jedi follow my droid
and there my friend you have an afk macro jedi with no macro running and that moves around to fool you thinking he is not afk
no need for a macro remove them if you wish
lol
P.S. Jargo your next post should be about removing droids from the game.... lol
Message Edited by blue-phoenix on 09-22-2005 12:30 AM
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