Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: Anonymous Mission Testing and What I Told the Devs
hanshadow wrote:
Tanks wrote:
Finally got on TC to test.I got the mission and started tracking.When I finally got to the Jedi he was fighting Giant Worts. He was alone, but I simulated regular hunting as most will be with groups and tried to target him via tabbing.It took me several seconds to TAB over to him. The Jedi knew I was after him before I could even target him. The smart Jedi will start running way before I would be able to target him in most situations. Now, add the fact that /duel is used almost exclusively in most situations to figure out a bounty target by the Jedi, he will know before the BHs.We really need the Jedi name at some point in the process. The devs at the "FanFest Jedi Focus Group Session" even mentioned that the BH first strike ability makes them equal to full template Jedi in power (which is a fallacy in itself). Well, it is kinda hard to have first strike or any kind of advantage when you have to be almost on top of the Jedi to know who he is!!!Please make the name of the Jedi available after the Arakyd probe reports the planet location. This would resolve a lot of issues and still stop the so called griefing by gank squads, targeting specific Jedi etc., etc.
Tanks, this is no different than it is today. It isn't hard to tell when a BH is approaching. If you are out in the wild, and a blue dot pops up headed toward you, it's probably a BH. If you are in a city, the Jedi can't tell.What's different again??
The difference with Pub20 is that instead of running after the guy you need to kill. You are now wasting up to 30sec TABing through a list of critters and names. If the jedi is as paranoid as I am when doing PvP, he would be watching his radar like a hawk when grinding. This extra time would give him/her a better chance to run, eat some foods, etc. Basically we are giving them more preperation time. A BH's advantage comes in their element of surprise. So bye bye BH element of surprise.
/ui action waveGoodbyAtElementOfSurprise
and im glad as well
Vlamr wrote:
hanshadow wrote:
Tanks wrote:
Finally got on TC to test.
I got the mission and started tracking.
When I finally got to the Jedi he was fighting Giant Worts. He was alone, but I simulated regular hunting as most will be with groups and tried to target him via tabbing.
It took me several seconds to TAB over to him. The Jedi knew I was after him before I could even target him. The smart Jedi will start running way before I would be able to target him in most situations. Now, add the fact that /duel is used almost exclusively in most situations to figure out a bounty target by the Jedi, he will know before the BHs.
We really need the Jedi name at some point in the process. The devs at the "FanFest Jedi Focus Group Session" even mentioned that the BH first strike ability makes them equal to full template Jedi in power (which is a fallacy in itself). Well, it is kinda hard to have first strike or any kind of advantage when you have to be almost on top of the Jedi to know who he is!!!
Please make the name of the Jedi available after the Arakyd probe reports the planet location. This would resolve a lot of issues and still stop the so called griefing by gank squads, targeting specific Jedi etc., etc.
Tanks, this is no different than it is today. It isn't hard to tell when a BH is approaching. If you are out in the wild, and a blue dot pops up headed toward you, it's probably a BH. If you are in a city, the Jedi can't tell.
What's different again??
The difference with Pub20 is that instead of running after the guy you need to kill. You are now wasting up to 30sec TABing through a list of critters and names. If the jedi is as paranoid as I am when doing PvP, he would be watching his radar like a hawk when grinding. This extra time would give him/her a better chance to run, eat some foods, etc. Basically we are giving them more preperation time. A BH's advantage comes in their element of surprise. So bye bye BH element of surprise.
/ui action waveGoodbyAtElementOfSurprise
Not true at all, it takes you the same amount of time to tab through them now as it's going to when pub 20 comes.
GeneralStatus wrote:
crowmedic wrote:
GeneralStatus wrote:
Grisham wrote:
personally I cannot wait for these changes to take effect. I mean for real with all the respec bhs and greifing of the same jedi and low level jedi over and over this is long time comming.
/agree. Its not gonig to change the way u hunt a jedi from now and post Pub 20. This crap about oh i wont be able to avoid a afk jedis mission. blah blah all crap cause u want it easy.
Yep I want it easier then AFK grinding on Kashyyyk.
Thats not much easier then grinding Bh in couple hours
Someone's never done the investigation tree!!
Issik wrote:
Someone's never done the investigation tree!!
GeneralStatus wrote:
Does having a macro make Bh seem more of a Hunter or less or one?
Sodan-droiddreamer wrote:
Spawns on Dantooine are a perfect example of what tanks is talking about. There are HUGE natural spawns of Plicketts (sp?) which are sometimes hunted by more than one group. Imagine the pathetic BH that has to roll up, get off his speeder, then begin either scrolling through all the mobs and other group members or targeting each Jedi in the area one by one till he finds his mark, all the while he's being ridiculed by everyone within eyeshot. The jedi will just run into their praerie dog house or hit FR and get out of there.
This publish will also make using bomb droids hard because you can't setup a macro in advance.
Who cares? W-T-F is the point of this comment? A good BH can find his mark and take it down. Macros are one of many tools used for this purpose. Intiution and fact-gathering are even more important. Macros just make akward game interfaces like bomb droid easier to use.
Why don't you go to the Jedi forum and post "Does macro'ing from Padawan to Knight on Kash make you feel more like a Jedi or less like one?"
Your emphasis on "hunting" is misplaced and clouds the real issues behind this Publish.
while correct in your statement, the difference is that if a BH knows the marks name, they can have it set to their macros before showing up....thats why leatherneck's idea about having a direct way to /target your bounty when you show up is such a good one. would allow those who would prefer not to do scouting before launching an ambush a way to rush in, guns blazing, at their target, while not interfering with the objectives of the fixes.
Grisham wrote:
Not true at all, it takes you the same amount of time to tab through them now as it's going to when pub 20 comes.
Grisham wrote:
the invest tree can be done in 1 day easy
Issik wrote:
Someone's never done the investigation tree!!
matter of fact grind 10k in cnet, then to invest 3 off opp faction bases, then kill a jedi friend to finish it off.
and then tell me how easy it is jedi fanbois
Message Edited by ilponn on 07-10-2005 08:55 PM
ilponn wrote:
you have had it to easy to easy i say ,try it with no shuttles no bikes or mounts and no droids working
and then tell me how easy it is jedi fanbois
yep it was pretty hard before all those things no doubt. with bugged missions and everything. LLC tree that was broken etc etc
but times have changed and professions need to change too.
we need pub 20 to stop the greifing
like your afk grinding try and be a jedi back then lol you just would not have done it ,know i now what all the old jedi was saying know lol light weight jedi noobs
so make jedi less powerful and make mbh more powerful if that is your statement so we dont need healing
and jedi do that whould be fair and balanced bh powerful jedi have healing
Message Edited by ilponn on 07-10-2005 09:02 PM
Farenheit wrote:
Nyracasso wrote:
Solution!
Don't let the Jedi know you're after him.I know it's tough
, butthat is your responsibility and your advantage.
If they're close enough to /duel you, then you shouldalready have him or her targetted, and shouldknow what to do.
It's not a marks responsibility to make him or herself ready for you to attack them.
QFE
did you quote this for emphasis to emphasize how stupid you both are or what? all i'm reading here is one moron who is so depressingly stupid that they can't even begin to fathom how this new system will work, and a second idiot so hopelessly lost in the first guy's stupidity that he actually attempts to quote this mindless, ill conceived post as if it had some shred of intelligence hidden somewhere in it.
so every knight on your server is mpowers/mhealer then right?
Iwawmi wrote:
i know alot a BH's including myself that can kill some knights, its not for every noob bh with a cdef pistol , it takes time and can be quite difficult
every BH can go toe to toe with a knight with the right template