Bounty Hunter Archive

Thread: FEEDBACK: Jedi (Player Bounty) Missions Being Moved to Master Box

TK428
Wed Jul 06, 2005 10:34 am
#144






Auraboron wrote:

Hi all,


As many of you know, Tanks is off soaking up the sun, and I said I'd keep an eye on this forum. I can already see a lot of frustration coming up about the now missing Patch Notes announcement.


Please channel all that frustration into constructive feedback, that I will pass on to the Developers until such time that Tanks returns and can take over. If you are delighted by the change, make sure your voice is heard as well.


The Devs really do value your feedback, so please share it.






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Leatherneck_of_Alderaan
Wed Jul 06, 2005 11:00 am
#145






JaredNomac wrote:

Best change I think they could integrate is something like EQ2 where if you attack something you and your target are locked in combat and no one can interfere. By all means retain the ability of more than one BH able to take a Jedi's mission, otherwise people would just make BH alts and hold their own mission. If you lock the two, BH and Jedi in combat 1 v 1 it would stop all the ganking.







No, it would just change form.


It would be a fight of attrition instead of overwhelming. BH1, BH2 and BH3 get together to kill a Jedi. BH1 fights until killed. BH2 immediately opens up without giving the target a chance to recuperate. Fights until killed. BH3 swoops in and given the drain to the Jedi's force bar wins easily. BH's split the cash and go get another.





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Skare99
Wed Jul 06, 2005 11:09 am
#146


I know many players who had used their token respec and just took INV 3.


They got screwed bigtime.
Yog-Soth
Wed Jul 06, 2005 11:18 am
#147






MeciniaLua wrote:

Thought some more about this.


If they do this, then they should remove the Jedi's ability to have any other profession other than Jedi and Force Sensitive.


"Unlearn what you have learned you must" Master Yoda



But I do not see how this will enhance gameplay in any way.








/concur






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Hisler
Wed Jul 06, 2005 12:07 pm
#148

I agree you should be master to hunt players. Back in the day you atleast have to get investigation 4 to hunt players then it was changed to three?


I think the master title and the terminal changes are great it gets rid of ganking, exploiting, and just plain griefing. The few whom did this know whom they are and they ruined it for everyone so dont go blaming the jedi community. But on the other hand I have to agree with a few posts they should insert melee accuracy and speed in the bounty hunter tree.


MeciniaLua
Wed Jul 06, 2005 12:10 pm
#149

What is the purpose of moving it to the Master Box?


It eliminates variety in BHs, It does not in any way create more balance or improve gameplay. All it does is play to those elitist players who cry that only Masters of their professions should be able to do anything of worth. It is a very bad choice, but then SOE has a history of them ( such as working on stupid stuff like this rather than fixing the crafting bugs they've introduced since the CU ).


Aurra Sing was not a Master BH ( she wouldn't have had the points for it...but yet she did hunt down Jedi), I also have suspicions that not everyone that came to Vader's call was a Master BH ( though prerequisites have made it more likely they could have been than before the CU....)





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Jakber
Wed Jul 06, 2005 12:35 pm
#150

I agree with this. Jedi missions moved to master Box.



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_Apache
Wed Jul 06, 2005 12:47 pm
#151

I am MBH/Mrifle/CM 4000, and I can tell you that Jedi dabblers are easily just as dangerous as full templates. Sure the Devs nerfed the heals, but with the Jedi Buffs in all other aspects, the Jedi Dabblers arevery dangerous at even the 100k bounty mark.Yet the Devs want to take out BH "Dabblers". The BH Dabblers are very good at Jedi hunting. To take out the BH dabblers once again tips the balance.


I say if the Devs want to take out BH Dabblers, then take out Jedi Dabblers too, or Give Master BH some decent bufing.





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Jakber
Wed Jul 06, 2005 12:50 pm
#152



I bet the Respec bh boom out numbers the jedi boom 10 to 1.




Agreed.




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Elder Jedi
bargenhunter
Wed Jul 06, 2005 12:51 pm
#153

I am a jedi but there isnt much compition when going 1 on 1 with a bh.It always sucks to nerf things so enhance them instead of nerf them.I think the hole bh skill should be the nextrevamp. They should make bh take up alot of skill points like it used to maybe even more to make them a solid bh and not much else and for there reward for going all the way, make bh realy kick ass. This will make a bh/jedi duel better plus not everyone will go to bh because they cant be much of anything else.
dierebelscum
Wed Jul 06, 2005 1:45 pm
#154

When they came for his cigerettes - I didn't care, I don't smoke.


When they came for his 45cats - I didn't care, I hate cats.


When they came for his guns- oh, hold up there mister! You might wanna take a step back.

I'm a MBH and will stay that way. So I don't think this change will affect me all that much, today. But what about the next change, or the one after that. When it’s our turn on the chopping block, who's gonna be there stand and speak out with us - the nurfed BH or Jedi. I think not. They'll be the ones snickering and whispering "it's about time, now you know how we feel". That's why I can understand why the Jedi community, for the most part, has taken that stance now. It's expected and understood.


The nurfing and drastic changes that are taking place though out SWG have only added fuel to a now out of control fire. These types of changes, along with other proposed ideas, will only continue to feed that fire and class envy.


If the Dev's truly want to know how a specific change would be seen, direct that question to only those that would be effected. I get a little box that asks me if I want to claim my Vet Reward from time to time. How about a box that asks for my feedback on BH hot topics. Do the same for Jedi and so on. The free flow of ideas will continue here, but that type of input would be focus based polling and may yield a better result. If you get an overwhelming negative response, maybe that idea needs to be massaged and tweaked a bit. Add some give and take.


The cloak and dagger approach the Dev's take force us in to a guess game - give us details as to WHY these changes should be made. Convince me - don't just poke me with a stick and tell me to pay my monthly fee and be happy. I feel as your customer, I'm owed answers. I also feel as a service provide you're owned my monthly payment - my account is current... is yours?





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groundcrew
Wed Jul 06, 2005 5:01 pm
#155






riotcontrol wrote:
Moving to the MBH box: A great thing if various 1-on-1 PvP special abilities (like gadgets etc.) will be added in the Master Bounty Hunter box too, justifying the change. If this is not so, then it's pretty pointless.

Other changes to the terminals: No comment...





/agree


I'd be happy if Eyeshot and Underhand shot worked better than10% of the time ( or rather, worked at all). otherwise i love the idea of putting Jedi marksas an MBH skill.





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_Apache
Wed Jul 06, 2005 5:24 pm
#156

I am still undecided about limiting Jedi hunting to only the MBH box. It definately sounds good, but some of the best BH templates vs. Jediare BH Dabblers. Only taking up to invest 3 and the rest to other more effective skills.


Im not sure if forcing aJedi hunter to take on MBH to hunt without some combat changes made to the MBH box to compesate for the Jedi Dabblers who can be extremely dangerous at even the 100k mark against MBH is a good idea.


I am not proposing anything drastic. Just make the MBH box more effective. Especially since the MBH box will now be the Jedi hunting specialty box, it should reflect its specialty in ways of anti Jedi tactics.


Just a thought.



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