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Thread: Bounty Hunter Feedback Requested: Armor Certification
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Nowaak
Fri Oct 28, 2005 1:45 pm
#131
I dont feel we need to change our TYPE of armor. I agree with many others that BH is one of the few proffs to get assult and that makes us inique. Assult is exactly the type of battle we BH do. However I REALLY RAELLY REALLY think assult stats should be changed. Even if you make it similar to Battle armor would make more sense. A bh should be great against both Kenetic, and energy. Assult stats should be something like 7000 against both kenetic, and energy, or close to that number.It was fine pre-cu when jedi were kenetic but you Dev's forgot to change our armor stats when you changed the Jedi. I am a wookiee and let me say our Assult armor is by far the best looking armor for our species. I am currently froced to wear the Garbage can looking Battle armor because of its stats. Recon looks even worse. I am MCM so use battle armor because its way better then even the best assult I have. But PLEASE fix assult armor. Its is what a BH should use. All you have to do is change some numbers for us. Good Hunting !
Nowaaak
MBH/MCM
Tempest
Torleen
Fri Oct 28, 2005 2:56 pm
#132
The idea of "Assault" armor to me, espeacially in a science fiction game, would imply from the begining that you would be wearing armor that was good for assaulting heavily armed installations.
Currently, the only thing Assault armor would be good for isassaulting villages of primitive people fighting with clubs and knives.
Not just for Bounty Hunter, but Commando as well, Assault armor needs a change. Period. Even if they just make it more expensive or hard to make the way that Composite used to be, I think Assault armor should just be the high end king. Make Recon high end Energy, make Battle High end Kinetic. Make Assault armor High end everything.
victum
Sun Oct 30, 2005 2:30 pm
#133
da-bro wrote:
Keep things as they are or even them across the game.
What I mean by this is that my BH/CM has no recon cert because I have chosen to have Combat Medic skills with Bounty Hunters skills. This makes this character godly enough as it is against its opponents. Throwing in recon aswell is just a bad idea, because then there would be no draw backs at all.
An example of this are the Jedi disciplines. I don't have any defender in my template because I choose not to. The option is there for me, as it is for my BH character to pick up Rifleman or Pistoleer to get recon armor.
If a change like this goes ahead, then I expect my Jedi to also get things like defence and other stuff which I can get by altering my template if I really wanted, for free instead.
On top of these points, as Bounty Hunters, we all ready have the best specials (Advanced Critical Shot is one of the most damaging shots in the game and does not have a warm up timer and we can also lay all states, including a bleed), Duelist Stance (which is a very good skill) and the best content.
A change like this will just make the otehr ranged professions more obsolete and further boost the overwhelming power that a BH/CM already has.
A change such as this will undermine the whole basis of certain professions having weaknesses that you can choose to cover by picking up a different profession to go with it, to help deal with those weaknesses. The fact we don't get recon armor is the only draw back to having BH in your template and thats something that needs to stay.
QFE... If you're that worried about your energy protections use PSGs (that's what they're made for after all).
victum
Sun Oct 30, 2005 2:55 pm
#134
ChemicalBrother wrote:
Y'know, there's something about our whole Assault armor certification that sucks man? Our only choices to start out with & for much of our BH'ing career are Composite & Chitin, BH is hard to get & Mandalorian is nearly impossible. Do any other proffs have this probelem, let's see?
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Mandalorian armor, about as hard to find as Jedi should be in our SWG timeline, doesn't that mean everyone should be sporting brand new sets of this armor? Lol. I think they are about 2 full suits of Mando & like 7 various pieces, I'd pay 10 million for it Those 2 guys would sell for alot more!. I can do the DWB no problem even with the help of those Jedi punks, but I just can't seem to kill enough Black Suns(just did #783553746) & still no Jetpack base or gloves & boots.
Yesh, I would like our Assault armor styles to be kept as it is converted to Recon armor. I also would like there an easier quest to give usMandalorian armor, make it as easy to get as it is to become a full template Jedi! I'm sure they've heard, we are willing to do a Village style gated quest in order to get this armor.
Message Edited by ChemicalBrother on 10-20-2005 12:05 AM
Let's cry aboutthis uber profession some more tbh. First, I'll address your armor arguement. While other professions have 3 easily craftable armor types, Assault Armor only has 2. Boo-hoo. Composite and Chitin are plenty good since they both have the same stats, it just depends on which look you like best. Heck you can even mix the armor types if you want. Not only that but the other 2 types of Assault armor the coolest and most prestigious of them all; BH armor and Mandolorian armor. BH armor isn't nearly as hard to get as you say. I see entire sets for auction pretty much on a daily basis and the vendor search is filled with schematics and crafted pieces and everyday grinding I see at least 1 person per group wearing a full set. The only hard armor to get is Mandolorian and it should be that way. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the main reason it's rare right now is because only Pre-CU looted BH armor can be converted into Mando, otherwise you'd probably see it a lot more often (once again, I could be wrong on that point, I don't know much about Mando armor). Just think about it... your analogy to Jedi isn't quite as accurate and clever as you'd like to believe. In the movies you saw ONE SET OF MANDO ARMOR OVER A SPAN OF 60+ YEARS. Now compare that to the numbers of Jedi you saw in the movies. Granted the large numbers of Jedi were only found in the first 3 movies, but Jedi were not hard to find in that 30 year span. The timeline doesn't match up but the Devs are appealing to the younger fans that only know the first 3 movies. That's just how it is. BH should not have a different armor certification. They way it is is fine. Get a PSG, foods, and buffs (not that all BHs don't anyway) and you're fine. That plus ungodly heals from CM means BHs are extremely strong. So many BHs think they need to own the world, just get over yourself and face the facts.
BountyHunterTHX1138
Sun Oct 30, 2005 3:01 pm
#135
I think BH should get all certs for armor. Just not all the modifiers that reduce the encumberence with it.
Nowaak
Sun Oct 30, 2005 4:15 pm
#136
That's just how it is. BH should not have a different armor certification. They way it is is fine. Get a PSG, foods, and buffs (not that all BHs don't anyway) and you're fine. That plus ungodly heals from CM means BHs are extremely strong. So many BHs think they need to own the world, just get over yourself and face the facts..
Onley a Whiney Jedi would say this. One who has been killed too many times. Almost every BH I know agrees the assult armor makes no sense. I love assult armor but the stats ned to be changed. If this VICTUM guy isnt a Jedi then he just has a chip on his shoulder. If you have nothing good, and productive to say why come in the BH thread? This armor issue has gone on forever and everyone knows it. To call us whiners is just yet another way to strike out at the BH's. Also you forgot Wookiee's smart guy. We have ONE type of assult armor and it sucks against Jedi. Thank The FORCE I am MCM so I can use ugly looking Wook Battle armor. I should be able to use assult but it isnt good enough. The assult issue is an abvious mistake made by the devs. If you are not Jedi and are BH you just betrayed all BH's. This thread is to discuss and make changes, not just put people down. No matter what armor we have.. we Bounty Hunters still get the job done and many hate us because of that. If anyone else has something inteligent to say about our rmor please do so.
Nowaaak
MBH/MCM
Death Before Dishonor!!
Aboacee
Tue Nov 01, 2005 7:34 pm
#138
Well I don't feel like posting paragraph after paragraph atm so ill just say I think BH should have a much higher energy certification because Jedi hit for energy, aren't BHs supposed to hunt jedi? And the NPCs also hit for energy...One of the few reasons I have not given up rifleman is because I would lose my recon certification, so I would not be able to wear my 8K recon suit which I come to love so dearly.
Virtuell
Wed Nov 02, 2005 5:16 am
#139
I think a bounty hunter should have the battle armor certification. This is because it is more "allround" when it comes to damage mitigation and this prepair the bounty hunter for any kind of situation.
Just my 3 dimes...
Jediknight2k1
Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:15 am
#140
Assault armor for MBH is balanced.
Nobody in their right mind can actually say that a 8200 Energy, 75% AB MBM/MCM would actually be balanced.
It would give 50% mind buffs, -40 combat, around 56% damage migitation to energy weapons. Bounty Hunters already have access to high damage kinetic rifles, pistols and carbines.
If you want recon then go Rifleman, if you want battle then Carbs or MCM the answer is that simple. I choose MBH/MCarbs because I wanted battle armor and full benefit of the Proton carb.
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