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Thread: Stop jedi gamebreaking hiding!

freedomwarrior
Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:37 pm
#131






Jargal wrote:

Abig part of jedi players enjoy annoying BHs with house/spacehiding and thats whats unhealthy for this game. The jedi overpopualtion is unhealthy for this game. I have sen it rip apart guilds, player towns, the GCW causing unbalance to the game.


If jedis keep annoying BHs they will respond to that. One way is to use vis attacks against jedi groups that grind openly close to big cities or outposts.


We all know one of the major features with being jedi is getting hunted by BHs and that wont go away. It's better to live by the rules, not annoying, not cheating and take the fights as a good sport. But if we keep ending up with players that deliberatly annoyes and ruins the game for us, then BHs will start usingannoying methods back at the annoyers. It's a sad and unhealthy spin to it, which I can guarantee none of us wants to experiance.


So, logoff if you arent playing. Be a good sport.







Um why should I have too? Do you log off the majority of the time when your afk for a few minutes? No, you dont, nor does most everyone else. Because of this, why should 1 specific profession be required too? So you cant finish your mission, boo hoo. Get over it. Wait for us to come out or dont, its your choice. IM not ruining your game play, your ruining your own game play. IF you chose to stay thats your choice, so deal with your boredom.


It is not my responsibility to be your content just because thats what you want. Some of us do chose to be on the terms, but some of us dont. Just a little heads up, ive been perma on the terms for over a yr, and only play my jedi maybe 1 time every other month if that. I logged my jedi in for the first time in over 2 months and in less than 2 minutes had a bh at my door. So, that takes care of your argument that all of us chose to be on the terms. Now, for the second part, its a jedi's job to make the bh fail or waste money, well when we house sit we do just that(if you cant see this as sarcasm let me spell it out, its sarcasm).


You may not like the fact that some jedi do house sit, oh well. I said it once in this post I will say it again, respec to dancer, then you dont have to deal with it. If you dont want to respec out and like being a bh, then suck it up and deal with life's little failures and move on when you encounter this, or here is a little tidbit of news you might not know about, bh can actually take npc missions and then you can succeed(again more sarcasm incase you didnt catch it).







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wazooka
Tue Sep 20, 2005 2:18 pm
#132





wazooka wrote:

what about this... a jedi wont be able to show up on terms if being in a privatehouse for more than 20 minutes (and his time on being on the terms pauses, eg if it takes 3 days to get off the terms -that timer stops and will continue when he is active again)? when he walks out he will immediately get back on the terms.


i like this idea, jedi can sit afk in their houses all days if they want, the only reason disagreeing would be "no then we cant bug BHs"


comments?





blademaster30 wrote:




yea right lol






ah, ok


lol




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DarthRevan88
Tue Sep 20, 2005 2:22 pm
#133






GlargTheKelfn wrote:
remove xp loss and jedi will fight more often.

until then, deal with it. jedi are players just like you, who don't have to do anything you want them to.

funny how a jedi sitting in a house wasting your time is a problem, but setting a jedi back hours of gameplay is all good.


oh, i almost forgot...
cry more noob.




no dont remove xp loss. but i disagree w/ the house hiding u really have to deal with that part. just drop it and get a new mark



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blademaster30
Tue Sep 20, 2005 2:25 pm
#134






wazooka wrote:





wazooka wrote:

what about this... a jedi wont be able to show up on terms if being in a privatehouse for more than 20 minutes (and his time on being on the terms pauses, eg if it takes 3 days to get off the terms -that timer stops and will continue when he is active again)? when he walks out he will immediately get back on the terms.


i like this idea, jedi can sit afk in their houses all days if they want, the only reason disagreeing would be "no then we cant bug BHs"


comments?





blademaster30 wrote:




yea right lol






ah, ok


lol







well i did not care for the idea i can agree with the first part but the second i cannot.



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wazooka
Tue Sep 20, 2005 2:32 pm
#135

ok i might have to take back the part with the timer stops, but when he walks out of the house he's going back on the terms... anyways, since theseare just speculations i guess its not much use of discussing it



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evhorizon
Tue Sep 20, 2005 2:54 pm
#136

To anyone agreeing with the OP... it's not gamebreaking at all. You guys are idiots for thinking that it is. I'm a BH, more-so than my Jedi, and I don't care about house-hiding. In my eyes they're losing XP anyway.





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appae1
Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:06 pm
#137

House hiding is not gamebreaking for one many bhs on kette us the exploit to pull the jedi outside. Secondly most jedi willl agree that the fotm is basically a "i win button" so we are free to use anything we consider a counter for loosing xp house hiding, fr, cloak whatever. Until healing is balanced most jedi will continue to use any means to avoid loosing xp. Also a new trend on ket is to call more bhs for help last week or so i have been hunted and griefed by the same to grp killing me since they cannot kill one on one so i am gonna use anything i can to avoid loosing xp other tahn a exploit or hack if its in the game it free to be use any way we see fit or it would not be there. And yes i have a bh so i do hunt jedi as well however he is mpist/mbh/cm 4000.




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Corina_Deepstarr
Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:31 pm
#138






Jargal wrote:

There's two thing that should have been adjusted long time ago, right after the BH terms got nerfed.


Since we BHs has accepted the fact that we cant know a thing about our marks when we go out for a hunt, jedi should have to accept two things, as a compromise.


The first thing is househiding. Theres not a single good thing coming out of this feature, only BH annoyance. This even increases the BH-jedi hate. Jedi doesnt get a single xp or any other benefits other than annoying all BHs coming to a house where a jedi sits AFK for hours and hours.

A BH lockpick, made bysmugglers would let the BH inside the house after a 30 sec timer and an possible alarm setting off. This would give the jedi a fair amount of time to prepare for the fight and the BH wouldnt have an other gamebreaking mission. A fair fight for both.


Ah another player seeking to invade the privacy of another players home. Get over it pal. Drop the mission and pull another one. A Jedi has a right to a private home whether you like it or not. Gee I thought BH were supposed to be patient and cunning.


The second is a natural result of the thing above. The spacehiding. If we fix househiding then spacehiding would be fixed at the same time. BH should be able to fire at a jedis ship and force it to emergencyland on the closest planet if 'blow up'. Of course the jedi should have the possibility to jump to hyperspace when attacked to get away. When the jedi has crashlanded on the closest planet, the BH should be able to track him there as usual.


Again, Get a clue and drop the mission and go get another one. Stop yer whinning.



This two imporvments should make jedi more hunted of course, but being hunted of all the galaxy's BHs should be a nightmare. All online jedi that are wanted should be huntable. Theres no good in having house/space hiding...make jedis avalible for BHs to hunt now.


Today BHs spend hour after hours doing the same thing...ending up frustrated outside a jedis house while he is AFK dancing inside. That doesnt improve this games publicity.


I want to see a more alive jedi-BH pvp.


Tell you what, give Jedi something to fight you for and I bet you would not have these inconviences. Till then, You knew what you were in for asa BH, live with it.









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MrGrail
Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:37 pm
#139






Jargal wrote:

Abig part of jedi players enjoy annoying BHs with house/spacehiding and thats whats unhealthy for this game.


We all know one of the major features with being jedi is getting hunted by BHs and that wont go away. It's better to live by the rules, not annoying, not cheating and take the fights as a good sport. But if we keep ending up with players that deliberatly annoyes and ruins the game for us, then BHs will start usingannoying methods back at the annoyers. It's a sad and unhealthy spin to it, which I can guarantee none of us wants to experiance.


So, logoff if you arent playing. Be a good sport.








And BHs hunt jedi why? To annoy them of course. If you want pvp, find a group and go overt. If you want to do something more lucrative, hunt the NPCs that drop the nice jedi CAs that you can sell for 20+ mil.


You say it is one of the major features yet you have been demanding that Jedi stay off of the terms. Again, losing xp to a bounty hunter is annoying, and BHs exploit (cheating ) just like some Jedi do. I am pretty sure that most jedi already consider BHs annoying so that part of your argument is useless.


Who are you to tell someone when to play their game? Or when to logoff? Tell you what...if you pay the monethly subscribtion for all of the Jedi on your server, I am pretty sure that they will never afk househide again. Im also sure that you are ever the good sport and do not kill LD or AFK Jedi you find. A fair sport would also mean not killing those lvl 60 and lower paddies. I am suuuuuure you never do any of that. :rollseyes:



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DarkStarRa
Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:40 pm
#140

We accept being hunted, but that doesn't mean we have to fight.


well, Apparently the good people who made this game thinks it DOES MEAN you have to fight.You just have a ton of Jedi who want to be cowards about it. I am a BH but i don't hunt Jedi i do NPE to get rich. That said the Jedi are just really sad lol I have seen Jedi in the MCM, MD, MP, MR parts of this forum and asking for professions to be nerfed in EACH of those. And you know, I am more then sure the Jedi are around the other professions on this board too asking for nerfs and crying. Really, It does no good tostart subjects like this because every other thread on this forum is proof of what the Jedi will do back when it comes to crying for more nerfs.

Urae
Tue Sep 20, 2005 9:39 pm
#141






GlargTheKelfn wrote:





Eare wrote:
Until there are proprt incentives for Jedi beating BH, Jedi will run and they will hide. The only alternaitive you have is to make their life completly and utterly miserable for 3 days. They'll crack soon enough!





please continue to do this. you make my point much better than i ever could.

idiots like this are why forced pvp will go away.

bh attracts ppl who get off making others game play suck. not all, but it attracts that type. in the long run, it's just unhealthy for the game. and for everyone of those types that leaves when forced pvp is gone, the game will be 1 small step better.





Very, very well said by both of you. I could not agree more



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Mfodish
Tue Sep 20, 2005 9:44 pm
#142

No


Interesting Ideas.


But No.


A jedi has the right to be undisturbed in his / her house even if not AFK to be safe. You would rather Jedi be 24/7 prone to attacks even though we get no reward for killing bh?





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Elisar
Wed Sep 21, 2005 1:15 am
#143






Jargal wrote:

The only argument jedi players has presented here so far is : -yeah, we still want to be gamebreaking and annoy BHs.


I can live with that...if I get an extra mission slot for NPC missions, so I have something to do while you guys hide in your houses.


And dont forget...I'll be very annoying following you guys around while doing missions to give the whole jedi group some nice vis....


Annoyment for annoyment until we settle the score.









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Besides Those little follow you around types don't bother me a bit. I got so much VIS from squashing little bugs like you, that i SHINE! In fact i got so much Vis it just drops off of me here and there and i have to go back for it " excuse me sir, you're standing on my visibility" See ?


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