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Thread: Combat Droids

darex
Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:39 am
#131


Use droid with healing bonus module, mine has 110 bonus healing (R3 adv withusefulmodule for combat).


I'm MCM/MBH even before pub 24, I've been using droid to help me.
NoStyleGuy
Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:44 am
#132

probots are the best because they can actually use a ranged attack (other droid should too, but its bugged) other than that all droids are the same.



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DaceRD
Sat Oct 22, 2005 6:48 pm
#133






NoStyleGuy wrote:
probots are the best because they can actually use a ranged attack (other droid should too, but its bugged) other than that all droids are the same.





i have two probots im testing with a DE both made in difference way , i think mainly what resources his used to make them. i dont kow the in's and outs of DE or what he does but the two i have from him both have different dmg to the same kind of targets. we still testing and trying to get a better performance we see where we end up with it.


you droid ony does well as long youdo using specials, confusing , intim,warning ,disarming etconly adds to yours and you droids dmg taking the npc down faster they can also take the threat of deathblow away long enough to recover from incap
Anarchicgorilla
Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:35 pm
#134

Probot is the worst droid you can use..




You can go two routes for the best combat droid for jedi and npc boss


1) R-3 with:


1 10 combat module


2 lvl 6 armor modules


4 25 rating self repair modules


1 110 medical rating module



it will come out with capped offense and defence a 110 medical rating and a 100 auto repair rating




2) DZ-70


110 combat


110 medical


Lvl 6 armor



will comeout full combat and defense with 110 medical rating



My alt is a MBH and have tested droids many many many times....





" Wealth is the slave of a wise man. The master of a fool. "
Sundal
Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:46 pm
#135






JorahnL wrote:

Personally, I don't use droids for hunting Jedi. I find the Jedi will pwn almost any droid in 2 seconds flat. I did use them for NPC marks tho... I used to use a Probot droid against them... Get one that will auto-repair itself. and turn that on every time you engage an NPC mark... It's only really viable up to CL 35, tho.


So, to sum up. If yer below CL 35, get a Probot and enjoy the extra damage. If yer MBH and on to hunting Jedi... Don't bother with combat droids. Some people do like Bomb-droids for Jedi-hunting tho.


I'm out






This isnt true. Actually very far from the truth.


It depends on how you use the droid. If you effectively use it it can be a great help.


Almost 90% of the time the Jedi will always target your droid in the first 30 seconds. If you learn how to make a macro to target the droid with a repair kit and then switch the target back to the Jedi you can keep many of them occupied for a minute or two.


After incapping the droid once or twice, most Jedi will forget about it and concentrate primarily on you only. So really you only need to worry about the droid for 30secs to a minute in the beginning. After that the droid becomes a constant DoT and adds +300 to your heals.


To Master-Defenders a droid will probably do around 30 damage, to anyone else expect to see about 50-90 damage. They shoot every second and are probably just as accurate as you are. So in a ten second span expect your droid to do 200-800 damage. For reference a fire dot from MCM will do 280-350 in ten seconds.


Unless you're a riflemen where your damage is front-loaded, I would highly recommend a combat droid with 110 medical module.


As for bomb droids...The only template that might do good with these are riflemen since it compliments their alpha-strike. To your average MBH build using these things are a waste of time and credits.

Sundal
Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:52 pm
#136






Anarchicgorilla wrote:

Probot is the worst droid you can use..


You can go two routes for the best combat droid for jedi and npc boss


1) R-3 with:


1 10 combat module


2 lvl 6 armor modules


4 25 rating self repair modules


1 110 medical rating module



it will come out with capped offense and defence a 110 medical rating and a 100 auto repair rating



2) DZ-70


110 combat


110 medical


Lvl 6 armor


will comeout full combat and defense with 110 medical rating


My alt is a MBH and have tested droids many many many times....







Not true, a R3 does almost twice the damageof the probot... but it has to melee. A Jedi can spin and hit both you and the droid in one hit. The probot can stay at range and floats as well. Floating allows it to catch jedi that run towards water. That alone makes it worthwhile to have and use.


I've never used a DZ-70 before so I cant really comment. But if it has to melee then it has the same disadvantage as the R3. And if it cant float then it lacks the advantages of the probot.


Overall the probot is the most convient and effective in my opinion. But I'll have to try the DZ-70 like you suggested. The R3 I know from experience doesnt cut it.

Anarchicgorilla
Sun Oct 23, 2005 9:01 pm
#137






Sundal wrote:





Anarchicgorilla wrote:

Probot is the worst droid you can use..


You can go two routes for the best combat droid for jedi and npc boss


1) R-3 with:


1 10 combat module


2 lvl 6 armor modules


4 25 rating self repair modules


1 110 medical rating module



it will come out with capped offense and defence a 110 medical rating and a 100 auto repair rating



2) DZ-70


110 combat


110 medical


Lvl 6 armor


will comeout full combat and defense with 110 medical rating


My alt is a MBH and have tested droids many many many times....







Not true, a R3 does almost twice the damageof the probot... but it has to melee. A Jedi can spin and hit both you and the droid in one hit. The probot can stay at range and floats as well. Floating allows it to catch jedi that run towards water. That alone makes it worthwhile to have and use.


I've never used a DZ-70 before so I cant really comment. But if it has to melee then it has the same disadvantage as the R3. And if it cant float then it lacks the advantages of the probot.


Overall the probot is the most convient and effective in my opinion. But I'll have to try the DZ-70 like you suggested. The R3 I know from experience doesnt cut it.






Not true either...

1) you donot have to stand right next to your R-3 for it to attack.... thus negating the dble shot.


2) Due to graphics a jedi can use saber throw and knock down your probot which will cause it to blow up and the graphics make it so when you heal it it comes together then back apart... and hits 3x as slow as before. making it worthless.







DZ-70 floats so can go in water.







" Wealth is the slave of a wise man. The master of a fool. "
Sundal
Sun Oct 23, 2005 9:11 pm
#138






Anarchicgorilla wrote:



Not true either...

1) you donot have to stand right next to your R-3 for it to attack.... thus negating the dble shot.


2) Due to graphics a jedi can use saber throw and knock down your probot which will cause it to blow up and the graphics make it so when you heal it it comes together then back apart... and hits 3x as slow as before. making it worthless.






1. No... but Jedi usually stand next to you to attack... and the R3 stands next to them.

2. This doesnt really always happen. I cant say for sure what triggers it, but I would say for every 1 time this bug occurs, the other4 times it's fine.


As for it attacking 3 times slower after the knockdown I never noticed that, but I will definately keep an eye out for it. Learned something new today at the very least.
KammaRocca
Sun Oct 23, 2005 9:36 pm
#139






Anarchicgorilla wrote:








2) Due to graphics a jedi can use saber throw and knock down your probot which will cause it to blow up and the graphics make it so when you heal it it comes together then back apart... and hits 3x as slow as before. making it worthless.





If I remember right, it's just the animation that goes 3x slower, but the droid still does the same damage.
pepe4158
Sun Oct 23, 2005 9:40 pm
#140

personally i think there worthless in pvp, but some guy has a post about how gold marks are soooo impossible now and I am amazed he didnt even think of drawing out an R3 or any other tohelp him...I am not saying thats an end all beat all strategy but it sure helps.

pepe4158
Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:20 pm
#141










So my friend....when a jedi sees a MBH pull out his droid he just calmy says MR. MBH i will oblige you by letting you kill me right?....I in theory I would like the idea...problem is when he sees you grap out the droid 15 secs right?.....id be either running for hell or max fooded up and ready toslash you tobits and some of those sabres hurt (i Know!)if I was any jedi worth my salt(which Im not Lol)


Point is the best jump a mbh ever gets is when you dont he-n-haw but get ready with your buffs and food and catch him as quick as you can and hopefully off guard by your sheer preperations and decisive attacks......I dont have a clue what else your watching but every BH victory i saw he hit the jedi hard and fast and didnt wait around to pull out a droid....but if it works for you go ahead...not a criticism....I'd just LOVE to know where these unobservantjedi are cuz all jedi I knoware a on-guard paranoid bunch(with good reason LOL) and ive never seen one so off guard he hung around once he knew what was up.


An NPC just stands there while I pull out anything....couldnt give a **edit** really lol.....and even tho they dont really add all that much ill take it....its just another piece in my arsonel of many .Ive even had the gold NPC stupid enough to take a few swings at my droid (instead of me)while I was healing...I cant begin to tell you how gratefull i was for his stupidty....no real life jedi I dont think would....they usualluy just flame me with hate tells how there gona kick my ass from here to Dath. while they concentrate on killing just me and Im kitting like hell...or giving my best impression.



Honestly Anarch I am amazed the jedi has let you livefor 5mins since you couldnt see the difference between theory and a real persons reactions....but hell if the jedi didnt see you walk up and figure what was up 15 seconds latter I quess he deserved to die....if it works for ya more power to ya,






Message Edited by pepe4158 on 10-24-2005 09:59 AM

ObiQuixote
Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:48 pm
#142

Probot might work with it's ranged attack but it's melee attack can bug and not do much. Since you really don't want to send it in against a jedi this could be ok. You could do a 110 med probot up to 75 (more likely 60's) repair.

With an adv R3 you could get a 110 med with up to 100 (more likely 80's) repair.

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