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Thread: BH Loot and Complaints

Nezodon
Mon Aug 08, 2005 4:57 pm
#118






JarekTalram wrote:





ob-gli wrote:
"
However, if people are running BH missions for HOURS at end, the law of averages will catch up and if anything is droppable, it will drop. I do not think that is bad considering the amount of time and effort involved. You got a much better return on your investment of time, and effort hunting Krayts or Nightsisters or Acklayprior to CU. You still do hunting DJK, DJM, or Arrukans missions on Talus they are the only other things droping loot thats any good with maybe a few others also...fix Krayt loot and the Jedi will stop complaning IMO... "


The drop rate cannot be compared ..sadly... out of everyone one of these npc bh missions , they all dropped atleast 1 thing worth keeping.


auakauns and djm consistantly drop items that instantly get deleted and serve absolutely no purpose in game what-so-ever, or in theaukaun missioncase, they drop nothing 9 out of 10 times...







Have you done Aa'kuun missions since the recent loot nerf. I ran mission after mission and I was luck to see a cdef rifle drop. Nothing was dropping.

Krayt's are worse. We killed 2 Adolencents and 1 Grand and they dropped nothing.





Adolesent and grand krayts never drop loot they are a static spawn and are there for atmospher, ive farmed krayts big time and i always get something which is useful to my guild armoursmith/weaponsmith or delicate trigger assemblies which end up being given to me to slice guildies weapons.


Now after doing about 50 BH missions over 2 days i have a few BH armour schematics and 2 ca's (though the ca's are fairly good) and a load of slicing components.


Since slicing components are more common the price will decrease and help out the smuggler community, its helped me out because now i can start doing damage slices at a cheaper and fairer price to people.


The loot for BH can be good and yes really good but its very rare to come across the really good stuff mostly it isnt very impressive now take that into account that it can take 15 minutes to find your mark and alot of the fights i have with my template last for a long time which can be up to 20 mins.


Now lets add in the decay on armour as these guys can hit very hard, then the food needed to stand a chance against these new marks, and droids to find the mark, and also stims. BH's need to spend alot of money to defend themselves in alot of the pve encounters which they find themselves in now, trust me these marks are no walk in the park.


I think other professions should get equal reward for doing what their profession is there for such as smuggler smuggling and this is where the effort should lie not trying to nerf any more professions.





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SpunkyKuma
Mon Aug 08, 2005 5:07 pm
#119

"YOu haven't run aa'kuan missions lately have you. I live on Talus and we were running mission right before the latest loot nerf and yes you did well. I made alot of money but now they are only dropping stuff like once every 9 kills and then it's more than likely crap. I ran au'kuan missions for 2 hours the other day and looted like 3 items."

Were you doing Aa'kuan Champions or something (ones that spawns Sentinals and Defenders)? Those two kinds of Aa'kuans seems to drop the most items, I have gotten Aakuan rings, a couple SEAs, crystal, crap weaons off them but they take TONS of missions to actually get something. IMO that's identical to the amount of time spent to a BH doing a single mission with a chance of getting a boss mark which isn't every single time.



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Ba--ne
Mon Aug 08, 2005 5:15 pm
#120









the law of averages






From reading most of the posts on this thread, Im sure most of u don't even know what the heck Tanks wrote bout this means. This 4 words summarizes all the wasted thread on the forums. I go to pee now.
Vcardossk
Mon Aug 08, 2005 5:15 pm
#121






Reijh wrote:

All I'm gonna say is /APPLAUD!!!!!!!!!!


This gives me somethin to do and if these are jedis whining about the loot bhs are getting WAH!!!!!!!!!!!!! Deal with it it keeps bhs off of you. So stick with the little Rhyatt trails








Funny thing is, it's most profs not just jedi......


Besides i like killing the odd bh's. ANd if i want the loot i log on my bh, i rather like my jet pack and full set of black BS armor.





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PyscoJuggalo
Mon Aug 08, 2005 5:50 pm
#122

Now I have not done an NPC mark mission in a long long time (Well because ganking full template jedi makes me smile), but as I recall they are buggy things that take 30-45 minutes to do if bug free. Doing Aukuans on Talustook me 10 minutes for 2. BH NPC missions with all their buggynessare hardly imbalancing.



I'm not saying there does not need to be more content for the other professions in the game though:


-Us (Yep I play a smugg also) Smugglers should have smuggling and their should be more criminal professions to support smuggling.


-Us non-BH combatants(Same as previous parenthesis) should also have some meaty contnet also. Be it a GCW or some cool NON-GCW PVE related stuff and Quests.


-But also Performers should have content. Taking every reason a complete template combat char would havefor going into a cantina ruined that (Getting Rid of BF).


-Same with crafters. Why can't this l337 quest stuff and loot be reversed engineered? Why can't DE's make cyber arms? ect........



Oh and Jedi...................... I won't touch you until the above 4 criteria are fixed.




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Esoda
Mon Aug 08, 2005 7:19 pm
#123






PyscoJuggalo wrote:

It has nothing to do with balance, the reason BH is getting nerf calls is because the arch-enemy of the BH is.........



The Nerfi.





The Nerfi order was established in September of 2003 when the first nerfi was unlocked through the Nerfercron. Then all the nerflings (per maturity nerfi, some would say nerfi never truely mature) rushed to get their nerfercrons. We seen reb guilds and imp guilds work together just so they could harvest all the nerfercrons for themselves.....


Then something dark happend. The Dark Ones, the Masters of the nerfi gave everyone a nerfercron. Some weaker people were perverted and choose the nerfi path, others sold their nerfercrons to nerfi and helped unwittingly destroy themselves and others said "Take your nerfercron and shove it where the sun don't shine."


The DarkOnes in their trechery are cruel though, to blind the masses the darkones made the nerfi hunters. The Dark Ones stated "Thine Nerfi Hunters shall slayith the nerfi and free thine land from eternal darkness." It was a lie though, the Nerfi Hunters were a trick, the Dark Ones secretly conspired to make the nerfi more and more numerous.


The Dark Ones got the Nerfi Hunters Drunk with vats of fermented cabbage and secretly gave the nerfi more power and took away all disadvantages. Now the nerfi are as numerous as Pornography on the internet and nerfi hunters are objects the nerfi can torchure and ridicule.






LOL ROFL



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dentorious
Mon Aug 08, 2005 7:33 pm
#124

/deepbreath


Alright, here we go....



I like the new loot system. I've been at it for about 4hours a day since the publish came out. I've also made my guild smuggler one of the happiest girls in all of ahazi. Out of about 100 missions I've only had 3 that were bugged. And let me also mention that I've made 20 mill in AAs and CAs.


Now here's my complaint. If I'm going to go through all these missions tracking and fighting all of these npcs, could you at least make sure that the boss marks drop good loot and not a jar of bugs. I like that I only draw one or two bosses a day, but it sure makes me angry to spend all this time killing an elite to get a melon. The same goes for lvl 78s droping clear crystals and LS CAs.


Other than that I'm pretty satisfied.







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majorslappy
Mon Aug 08, 2005 7:42 pm
#125






Tanks wrote:


Posted from my reply to another thread.


It is interesting that most people beleive that this is a zero sum game. A lot of the posts I have seen are "BHs got nice loot, it should either be nerfed or everyone should have it".


Excuse me, but prior to CU BHs could not solo Nightsisters, or Gorax, or Krayts or Acklayfor loot.A lot of you other combat professions could do that.


I did not hear crafters complain that a Rifleman/TKM (or other templates)was able to loot any high level mob in the game prior to CU. Now that the BH NPC marks are worth doing, and loot is dropping I do not understand the complaints.


Heck, I saw complaints even on the Jedi forums. They seem to forget that they get a second character slot on the same server. Should we lobby for everyone to get that or have it removed? Fencers and Swordsman would love to have access to Lightsabers as well. .



Also, a lot of the posts I have seen here give the impression that the drops are uber on a regular basis. I have run about 20 missions so far (about 5 hours). All I have gotten were Smuggler slicing components and a few BH armor schems. I have yet to loot ANY CAs.


However, if people are running BH missions for HOURS at end, the law of averages will catch up and if anything is droppable, it will drop. I do not think that is bad considering the amount of time and effort involved. You got a much better return on your investment of time, and effort hunting Krayts or Nightsisters or Acklayprior to CU.







LOL. The only appropriate reply to this whiny mess of a message is ... "You knew the risks of the profession when you became a BH. Don't whine about it now."



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Jargal
Mon Aug 08, 2005 8:15 pm
#126

Good post Tanks!

Very true!!





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RS_Talon
Mon Aug 08, 2005 9:26 pm
#127






WookieOgre wrote:





RS_Talon wrote:

Another point people are missing is BHs have to spend money to run these missions. A) We need to use a probebot to find the planet the mark is on. B) Use a seeker to track the mark. C) Pay for shuttle hops to and from starports. D) Some of these marks hit pretty hard therefore our armor takes a beating.









D) is about the best argument you can make. Well that and the time invested in tracking down marks. Sometimes I have to travel fliping 8k m total just to get a jar of bugs


But as far as your A, B, and C.....I pay 20k to get my probots and haven't run out after 40 missions, same for seekers (20k as well), and you can't seriously expect someone to feel sorry for a player having to pay 200 credits to travel to X city every now and then. Remember our missions give us 30k credits, 2 misions and you have enough dough to cover A-B for a long time.


Like I said, the armor is what gets me.....that and the fact the really good loot drops seem to be pretty rare. Some are complaining that they are already seeing mutliple good loot drops (I'm not talking about Schems/SEA/Slicing equp) but with 100's of BH's on every server doing mutiple missions, the law of averages says the loot will drop eventually.






Im not saying its a great deal of money or anything just that we have to spend some where as the people who just afk camp spawns for loot have to spend none.


But yeah armor is the biggest. I started tonight with a brand new set of armor and it's already lost 6k condition after 1 night.





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Gawzeera
Tue Aug 09, 2005 12:53 am
#128


my only problem with the new loot is that most of it is all for smugglers.


I've run a few missions and have gotten a couple of schems, 1 CA, a load of smuggler stuff and 2 high cap scatter's that are crap, although from what i understand slicing a lower max dmg weapon will result in a higher slice percentage because your not as close to the weapons dmg cap.





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Cafa
Tue Aug 09, 2005 12:57 am
#129






Gawzeera wrote:


my only problem with the new loot is that most of it is all for smugglers.


I've run a few missions and have gotten a couple of schems, 1 CA, a load of smuggler stuff and 2 high cap scatter's that are crap, although from what i understand slicing a lower max dmg weapon will result in a higher slice percentage because your not as close to the weapons dmg cap.








No, it's useful for smugglers to slice my weapons and armor! Not for them.


Man, people griping about this stuff need to get a grip. If you want a MBH get a MBH. Otherwise, can it. I did 28 bases in a row to grind my friend Theseus' to MBH the other night in anticipation. It's very possible folks.


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sithdarksabre
Tue Aug 09, 2005 5:35 am
#130

I agree 100% Tanks. ANYONE who doesn't agree should take time to try these missions BEFORE complaining. A MBH can make LOTS more money getting in a grinding group and run regular missions for more credits and more xp. A MBH can run NPC missions in a group or solo and get a better drop rate on attachments than one can running B H missions. A MBH can't just go out and grab a mission run to a waypoint and kill a mark like a regular mission. A BH has to get a mission. find an operative, head out of town call a droid wait 20 seconds, head back to town and wait on droid to tell you what planet the mark is on. Then the BH has to travel to that planet launch a seeker, travel to the waypoint listed (granted this isnt so bad on planets with player cities but on wilderness planets this can eb a pain at times), if the droid loses the mark you have to launch another seeker and continue toward the mark. Once a BH gets to where the mark is they pray that the mark hasn't spawned in a body of water (mission incomplete), the mark hasn't spawned inside something making him unattackable, or even bugged (yes BH get a lot of bugged missions), then kill the mark. All of this work for 31k, in the time it took me to do this i could run 3 solo missions out of a player city and make more money and use less equipment. If you think the BH loot drops are bugged then try it for yourself and findout how bad the drop rate really is before you start crying NERF.



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