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Thread: BH XP loss?
Message Edited by cyman31 on 10-06-2005 05:28 PM
cyman31 wrote:
Make me more powerfull than a pre cu jedi. give me the ability to heal while kd, Let my bh have a cloak ablity that lets me move around unseen without any hinderance and give me the ability toburst run constantly without having anyaccuracy reduction whatsoever.Then i will be all for BH lossing xp on death to a jedi.Message Edited by cyman31 on 10-06-2005 05:28 PM
and dont forget the free second account.
cyman31 wrote:
Make me more powerfull than a pre cu jedi. give me the ability to heal while kd, Let my bh have a cloak ablity that lets me move around unseen without any hinderance and give me the ability to burst run constantly without having any accuracy reduction whatsoever.Then i will be all for BH lossing xp on death to a jedi.Message Edited by cyman31 on 10-06-2005 05:28 PM
1) Your more powerful than post-CU Jedi, and many templates which incorporated BH pre-CU were more powerful than fully templated Jedi.
2) You can use stims while KD'ed, stasis'ed, etc. and heal more often, with less penalty, and more powerfully then a Jedi
3) Cloak is getting a snare, but Rifleman can move around, unseen. However, more Jedi than not do not have cloak.
4) Parwan Cake = unlimited burst
Honestly, killing Jedi now is rediculously easy. Yah, they may run away, but I count that as a win. BH's are more powerful right now than a fully templated jedi - and I tear up non-templated ones.
It would make the game more interesting from my stand point if there was some kind of BH Penalty (put BH's on the terms, reduction of mission payout, something like that). Heck, it'd be something different when this game already suffers from stagnation.
Cutlass-Shadowfire wrote:
I am Sure this is a Rumor , but I was told that there was a BH XP loss in the works , I cant find it.
It is supposed to be for the Loss of the mission when the jedi beats the BH and DB's. I think this would completely Fubar my XP gain, and make me regrind endlessly , when I lag or just get outdamaged by a Jedi, I mean after all I wouldnt think a BH should lose XP or even the amout of the mission if I fail. The anguish should be just aimed at the Jedi for the XP loss and hours or regrinding, for my time I take to hunt and kill him.
Anyone else think this is the way it should stay, I am for it. I dont wanna regrind since I finnished my Template. I already have a hellofa Time hunting on Kryassk , I have to run around hoping I see them, but with that work when I do find then there really Pissed.
If anyone has heard of this or can post the clickie please do I am very interested in this.
This is how most jedi feel also. I think the shoe would fit well on the other foot. 
Necriscoth wrote:
Why should a BH lose xp? BH is a normal profession. If they did that they would have to do the same with all of the other normal professions. Jedi lose xp because they are a special class. As far as I know, Jedi only lose xp now from a DB from a BH. The Jedi profession has had the xp loss causes greatly reduced. But why should a BH lose xp? Because they are becoming a force that Jedi have to be more concerned about? Why just BH? Why not another profession that loses to a Jedi during faction PVP? Does that seem fair? No. BH xp loss would be a great leap back in the game because it would again unbalance the game even more.
Antilles98 wrote:
1) Your more powerful than post-CU Jedi, and many templates which incorporated BH pre-CU were more powerful than fully templated Jedi.
Who's more powerful than post-cu Jedi? This is a pretty broad claim to make. I presume you mean MLS/Mdef vs. MBH/MCM. MCMs(or Doctors for that matter) are difficult for anyone to kill in PvP. That still doesn't make them more powerful than a Jedi. And I certainly hope you don't mean a MBH/Mrifleman is more powerful than a jedi. Basically, all you're talking about here is template. Yes, healing templates are hard to kill in PvP, however, that doesn't make them more powerful than jedi. As an MBH/Mrifle I hate running across MLS/Mdef, and even though I can fight with an Mpower/Menh I know I still won't get paid because they can always get away. And if I don't get paid, it's a loss, regardless of whether or not you think it's a moral victory.
2) You can use stims while KD'ed, stasis'ed, etc. and heal more often, with less penalty, and more powerfully then a Jedi
I can heal with stims about 10 times before I'm full. How long is 10 heals going to last me against an MLS?
3) Cloak is getting a snare, but Rifleman can move around, unseen. However, more Jedi than not do not have cloak.
So having a snare makescloak less effective than a rifleman crawling around on his belly under cover that can be broken by anything that gets within 20m?
4) Parwan Cake = unlimited burst
Same as your stim arguement, parwan=unlimted burst run for 4 or 5 uses, so 2-3 minutes, provided you eat no other foods for the duration of the fight.
Honestly, killing Jedi now is rediculously easy. Yah, they may run away, but I count that as a win. BH's are more powerful right now than a fully templated jedi - and I tear up non-templated ones.
I think people that claim this are either deluding themselves, or spend all their time hunting the jedi that ground out their templates afk hunting wookiees. A jedi that runs away is not a win, like I said, if I don't get paid, I lost. Killing unprepared jedi with little PvP experience may be easy if you're an experienced BH with high end equipment, but if you're talking a toe to toe fight between equal skill level players, my money is still on the jedi.
It would make the game more interesting from my stand point if there was some kind of BH Penalty (put BH's on the terms, reduction of mission payout, something like that). Heck, it'd be something different when this game already suffers from stagnation.
Necriscoth wrote:
Why should a BH lose xp? BH is a normal profession. If they did that they would have to do the same with all of the other normal professions. Jedi lose xp because they are a special class. As far as I know, Jedi only lose xp now from a DB from a BH. The Jedi profession has had the xp loss causes greatly reduced. But why should a BH lose xp? Because they are becoming a force that Jedi have to be more concerned about? Why just BH? Why not another profession that loses to a Jedi during faction PVP? Does that seem fair? No. BH xp loss would be a great leap back in the game because it would again unbalance the game even more.
Well , I was thinking Since I can work at hunting 1 person , not as easily as currently and induce Multitudes of hours or work for them from My profession MBH, that if I do fail at a mission , why Shouldnt I lose something from dying to them? For as whats Good for the Goose is Good for the Gander correct?
No XP loss conversion
If I DB him I get 225kmax pay out and they lose 450k grinding XP sooo even at this rate of 7 BH marks per hour It would only take me 1 hr to get the 225kpayout , to lose the $ to them
Cutlass-Shadowfire wrote:
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Majority of us BH could care less about being hunted or xp loss.As long aswe get the same or equivalent perks as the ebay jedi as well.
-Although I have a full set of adk'ed armor, i know many bh who can't afford this. give bh innate armor comparable to valor and aura so they don't experience decay.
-Give BH an escape tool.
Last but not least, the most important perk. Give BH a second character slot.
Message Edited by HeadRoll on 10-06-2005 01:38 PM
HeadRoll wrote:
Cutlass-Shadowfire wrote:
(endless drivel snipped)
Majority of us BH could care less about being hunted or xp loss. Just make sure we get the same or equivalent perks as the ebay jedi as well.
-Although I have a full set of adk'ed armor, i know many bh who can't afford this. give bh innate armor comparable to valor and aura so they don't experience decay.
-Give BH an escape tool.
Last but not least, the most important perk. Give BH a second character slot.
Whats an Escape tool , the cloak isnt one for long , they are fixing the cloak thing.
I think thatthe jedi Earned my Freebie Slot and the BH would too if they did the work and Time involved because from 0 to 80 and new toon to full template MCM MBH only takes a WEEK at the most 3 days on my part , but the jedi have at least 12 weeks for the village phases and countless millions of XP to get to their level so to compare the APPLES your barking up the wrong tree.
To compare the Free alt they have to a BH is , ummm , well Stupid and you shouldnt be even playing if you think that a week long grind is compared to a 3 month Minimun grind and then the Grinding of the jedi to full temp.
DAMM I just lost 100 IQ responding to that idiot.