Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: The New Feign Death ( Cloak)
Well I have a problem with any and all roots/snares/concussion shot. I guess they're an I win button too. That must mean they all must be in master boxes, cost more action/mind, oh and healer 0020 must be nerfed too. I mean, how gamebreaking is it that you can get 1000+ heals without much SP cost? Critical shot hits me too hard, it must be nerfed too, after all Jedi can't wear armor. Wait subjugation shot knocks me down too much: NERF IT.
Buddy, for someone who registered at least the same day the game launched, you are awful nerf happy. Have you played BH since day 1? Did you respec into it? Give me a break, for every nerf you cry for, I can cry for one back. Get over it.
I'm sick of nerfs. I'm sick of new things in the publishes. I want Pub 21 to be the major bug smash. It won't happen, but I'd rather have bugs fixed (bugged spawns, warping, client crashes, et al.) than any nerfs or new crap.
Asir wrote:
does anyone else see something wrong with jedi's being able to walk away during any fight ??? Come on force cloak doesn't have to go away or move to the masters box but it needs some tweaking bad. Or you can just give me smuggler fd in pvp again.
Message Edited by Asir on 07-15-2005 12:55 PM
Using cloak against a Bounty Hunter isn't an "I WIN" button.
It's a "this is not a time when I want to fight" button.
And you cannot, I repeat, can NOT compare the Feign Death problems of old with your current beef with Cloak.
First off - Feign Death was on a low box of Smuggler. Could be obtained very easily by grinding Padawans, low level Padawans, and used specifically to avoid BH's.
Cloak is a Tier 4 Jedi skill. That's 3,200,000 Jedi xp. That is NOT any kind of comparison to the comparitively small amount of xp required to Feign Death before it was nerfed.
LOL well you can claim it is. If you want to "balance" or "nerf" force cloak, well then I want you balanced too wiseguy. I didn't want to be a cookie cutter defender class and cloak allows me to run away. This means that it's one less MLS/MD you're running into, be happy for diversity. I don't run around screaming about CM's, MRM, Smuggler, et al. BH variants.
Think before you type.
Asir wrote:
I can see your frustration too I agree there are a lot of things out of balance in this game. Startle shot disarming shot Stacking of snares, roots etc. But this is a thread about force cloak not anything else.
Asir wrote:
I can see your frustration too I agree there are a lot of things out of balance in this game. Startle shot disarming shot Stacking of snares, roots etc. But this is a thread about force cloak not anything else.
If you want to discuss Cloak and nothing else, then any attempt at "discussion" is fruitless.
Every single ability in this game now has a counter-ability.
If you want to discuss Cloak, you have to include it's counters in the discussion - which are roots and snares, and knockdowns.
JMShunter wrote:
if your a ranged bh and the jedi comes for you what most people would do is kite. Now that jedi can cloak kiting is pointless because then they will just cloak when you get 20+ away. Also in the gcw if a jedi doesnt want to die he can just cloak and run away. you cant track or follow him... hes gone.
Kiting is lame, and completely unfun.
Why bother running after you, when you just run ahead of me in gigantic circles while you snare and root and whatever.
If you wanna fight, then fight and stand your ground. If you wanna kite and waste my time, +CLOAK+
If you can't kite and your ranged, and you're tired of dealing with anti-kiting cloakers, then go melee.
slave138 wrote:
I'd like to see them make Cloak not work if the Jedi is TEF'd. I can understand being able to disappear when people aren't paying attention, but in the middle of a fight when someone is actively keeping an eye on you is another thing all together...
This is one of those situations where you just have to accept this is a game driven by mechanics.
How far is far away enough not to see me? How far can someone "actively keep an eye on me?"
Apparently the Devs' answer to that was 20m.
wrong... more like 20k for novice, 200k for first box, 400k for second, 800k for third and 1.6mill for 4th for a grand total of *drumroll* 3.02million...... thank you come again
BonoU2 wrote:
More like 1,620,000 if you count the novice box
Warryyr wrote:
Using cloak against a Bounty Hunter isn't an "I WIN" button.
It's a "this is not a time when I want to fight" button.
And you cannot, I repeat, can NOT compare the Feign Death problems of old with your current beef with Cloak.
First off - Feign Death was on a low box of Smuggler. Could be obtained very easily by grinding Padawans, low level Padawans, and used specifically to avoid BH's.
Cloak is a Tier 4 Jedi skill. That's 3,200,000 Jedi xp. That is NOT any kind of comparison to the comparitively small amount of xp required to Feign Death before it was nerfed.
I am not the Jedi you are looking for. 
Since I don't have a choice to be TEF'd... No.
slave138 wrote:
I'd like to see them make Cloak not work if the Jedi is TEF'd. I can understand being able to disappear when people aren't paying attention, but in the middle of a fight when someone is actively keeping an eye on you is another thing all together...