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Thread: Jedi have no armor... yeah right

Anarchicgorilla
Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:06 am
#1

1000 = 10.5%
2000 = 20.0%
3000 = 28.5%
4000 = 36.0%
5000 = 42.5%
6000 = 48.0%
7000 = 52.5%
8000 = 56.0%
9000 = 58.5%
10000 = 60%


This is the amor guide as taken of the FAQ


I have justlooked at my combat logs and innate jedi armour (no psg) withimp. force armormacroabsorbs just over 58 % of any damage (blast, energy, or kinetic) I know my opponet was full temp jedibut that is all (so if he was not master defender this could be higher)


Damage done with a puped 610-1219 carbine with a basic ranged shot was ---724 dmg (armour absorbed 421) for the final damage of303 pts. (eating pyro ranged accuracy bonus food)


This would make a master defenders innate armor + the macro absorb 58.15% of incoming damage.


That would be equiviant to a 8850 kinetic / 8850 energy battle armor suit.


So next time you hear a jedi say... I cannot wear armor ... point them here.



" Wealth is the slave of a wise man. The master of a fool. "
Zutan
Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:09 am
#2

Not all Jedi have Mdef.. which means some have almost no "armor".. The only problem with that is the balance of a non-Def Jedi vs a Def Jedi is pretty far off as far as survivability goes..
LxKane
Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:10 am
#3

I've yet to see a Jedi of any lvl that doesn't have or atleast plan to get atleast one tree of Mdef.
Zutan
Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:13 am
#4

I know a few that dont have any Def at all.. they are in it to have fun, not be uber. One friend doesnt have any LS or Def and has alot of fun with it. I've taken my BH against in him duels before and its hard for him to survive since I hit him very hard but he can do all kinds of nasty things to me as well. Btw, if the Jedi was absorbing that much he's almost certainly MDef because that is about the same amount my Jedi absorbs with MDef.
mindspat
Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:14 am
#5

I'm using Defender 4044 andI love it!


I've thought about dropping 4xxx to pick up Enhancer x4xx for the armor...






Pick me !!

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Anarchicgorilla
Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:24 am
#6


I know not all jedi have master defender


I donot know if the jedi above did either... I do know he had improved force armor (which is inhancer line).


The point is that I have heard jedi say we have no armour... improved force armor (1 line) give a jedi better amor protection (and all around not just a type) then any crafted RIS (6600 kinetic/ energy is max from what I understand).


I am would believe the jedi was a not master defender that I faced (not sure, only asked if he was full temp)


I say this because of"


Meditate, absorb, and run were used (enhancer 44x4).

Improved saber throw, head, armor break, leg, androot (atleast X444 sabers).

And he cloaked (X4XX powers).


These skills alone will not let you be master defender.. and I would guess this guy was master enhancer do to his force runs.



" Wealth is the slave of a wise man. The master of a fool. "
Zutan
Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:43 am
#7

If he had enhancer armor then probably did not also have MDef, they dont entirely stack (to give extra max defense) one of my friends has been playing with that lately. He is MDef and has Force armor.. there IS some benefit to having both, but its not 1+1 = 2.. more like 1+1=1.25 for defenses.
Geauxx
Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:44 am
#8

You should have been around when all of the Jedi were running around in Comp Armor.



Geaux Darkcloud
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PyroCommando
Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:45 am
#9

back in the day? lol i remember that very well



nnnnnLIQUID SNAKE
nnnnnJEDI PADAWAN
nnnnnFORCE ASSISTED WARRIOR
nnnnnWOOK

Leatherneck_of_Alderaan
Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:48 am
#10






Anarchicgorilla wrote:


Jedi have no armor... yeah right





They don't....well...they don't have much. Initiate grants 20 points of innate armor. Jedi don't have theamount of defenses you're talking about. Defenders and some Enhancers do.



Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum
diepa
Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:51 am
#11






Anarchicgorilla wrote:


I know not all jedi have master defender


I donot know if the jedi above did either... I do know he had improved force armor (which is inhancer line).


The point is that I have heard jedi say we have no armour... improved force armor (1 line) give a jedi better amor protection (and all around not just a type) then any crafted RIS (6600 kinetic/ energy is max from what I understand).


I am would believe the jedi was a not master defender that I faced (not sure, only asked if he was full temp)


I say this because of"


Meditate, absorb, and run were used (enhancer 44x4).

Improved saber throw, head, armor break, leg, androot (atleast X444 sabers).

And he cloaked (X4XX powers).


These skills alone will not let you be master defender.. and I would guess this guy was master enhancer do to his force runs.





TheJedi say "but we cant wear armor" to people asking for nerfs to their def mods. If a jedi wants defense/armor he has to use skill points, any other character can spend sp on all offense and get same protection by throwing on armor.
-Fluffen-
Mon Aug 15, 2005 1:03 pm
#12






Anarchicgorilla wrote:

1000 = 10.5%
2000 = 20.0%
3000 = 28.5%
4000 = 36.0%
5000 = 42.5%
6000 = 48.0%
7000 = 52.5%
8000 = 56.0%
9000 = 58.5%
10000 = 60%


This is the amor guide as taken of the FAQ


I have justlooked at my combat logs and innate jedi armour (no psg) withimp. force armormacroabsorbs just over 58 % of any damage (blast, energy, or kinetic) I know my opponet was full temp jedibut that is all (so if he was not master defender this could be higher)


Damage done with a puped 610-1219 carbine with a basic ranged shot was ---724 dmg (armour absorbed 421) for the final damage of303 pts. (eating pyro ranged accuracy bonus food)


This would make a master defenders innate armor + the macro absorb 58.15% of incoming damage.


That would be equiviant to a 8850 kinetic / 8850 energy battle armor suit.


So next time you hear a jedi say... I cannot wear armor ... point them here.






So you didnt think that jedi had no armor at all? rofl


Why do you think ppl pick defender skills in their templates and what would defender do if it didnt defend?


I guess you are new to the game


and still we dont have any armor just skills that work as armor.... We cant equip any kind of armor and use jedi skills





d-Fluffen - Pre Cu Jedi -d


l Trandoshan - And Proud of it! l


Nathanielstarr
Mon Aug 15, 2005 1:03 pm
#13






Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:





Nathanielstarr wrote:

Master Defender force armor provides 10000 resists to all attacks. 10000 isn't possible with our armor even in one single area (ie recon with perfect quad layers of energy wouldn't reach 10000). So jedi cannot rightfully say "we cannot wear armor"....



I think the ones that say thatjust need to learn how to fight.








How much armor does a MLS/MPowers/Healer 4004 have? Certainly isn't 10k.


How much armor does a MLS/MHealer/Enh4004 have? Certainly isn't 10k.


How much armor does a MEnh/Mpowers/Healer 4040 have? Certainly isn't 10k.


How much armor does a 60 pt jedi have? Certainly isn't 10k.








My crafter cannot wear armor either and he makes the stuff. But it's my choice to keep him a pure crafter isn't it? If you can grind Master Enhancer you can grind Master Defender. But you choose not to.If they give jedi armor what good does it make the force armor ability?


Really I realize that you guys rather just pick up the 226 skill point Kill ALL profession which is all the jedi skills together. Cloakers with master defender, master saber and master healer. Name yourself LEET GANKER
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