Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: Jedicommunity Vs Everyone Fix
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Vecasius
Thu Jul 21, 2005 5:52 am
#1
I used to be a hardcore BH. I hated the drowes of paddys poring out of the villeafter each phase.. Lets face it this game is set in a timeline of SWGwhere Jedi are suppose to be all but extinct, still ithinkmost players 6months and older have at least one Jedi account.The game as it is now is broken beond repair when it comes to fixing the Jedi problem.
Here is what i propose. Add more "superclasses" to the game. 2 factional classes and 2 neutral ones. With grinds similar to the Jedi one we currently have. An elite spec op Prof for Reb/Imp factions likeImperial Guard for example (You know the cats in the pimp red armour) And why not make BH one of the Elite neutral ones?
This idea would make playing more fun for those of us who allready have 2 or more Jedi char and like to continue grinding our alts/other accounts past the normal 2 day grind combat professions. (i did investigation grind twice. first time as anub it took me maybe 3-4 days. second time i did it in 1.5 days.)
It would certenly spread out the amount of hate we recieve from a lot of the non-Jedi community and it would be a great thing for the players who would like to improve their character trough grinding rather then equipment but does not necesserely want to be a Jedi char with all the Grief and getting hunted it intails.
I myself felt more or less forced into grinding out a Jedi because i
Iv proposed the idea to a few of my friends and the majority of them said that they would much rather have choosen one of these other classes then the Jedi they are currently playing.
I appreciate your input on this subject.
ther34p
Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:52 am
#3
Jedi is a novelty - people are drawn to it as a moth to a flame. It's how Lucas wanted it. People think Star Wars, they think Jedi. 90% of people will think of Jedi first, and by Jedi I do actually mean the Lightsaber wielding characters, so the SITH are thrown into this generalisation as well.
I honestly think my TKM/Doc/Swordsman is more powerful than my Jedi. Their skills are similiar but the TKM puts out better damage, and heals more efficiently.
kaedo
Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:01 am
#4
I can't speak for everyone but IMO I don't want a game where everyone is a super-class........if we had more than the current 1 (Jedi) then no-one would play the lower classes and we'd have a huge shortage of goods like we currently do on my server.....nobody is playing crafter anymore and it's hard to find gear and supplies. I can play City of Heroes where everyone is a super class for that. I personally don't view Jedi as a super-class....they're tough but not undefeatable. My opinion is if they fix the bugs and work on tuning the combat a little better........this game will improve. It relies on a certain PvP skill that you have to learn in order to be successful.......a lot of people just assume they should be able to kill everyone at will with one shot.....this is not realistic at all. Some people are just naturally better at games than others......that's just reality. It's like any sport out there......I suck at basketball......so I either play rarely or not at all. I like SWG........and I'm learning PvP but I usually run missions or hunt........with the occassional bounty in there for practice. I'm learning though so I'm sure I'll get better......the problem again is the bugs make it uneven sometimes......or allows another player to exploit a bug to win.......this is not acceptable......the fight should at least be on fair programming terms. I haven't had any bad experiences with PvP hunting yet so we'll see......but in the meantime I wish they would just work the bugs out before pressing ahead. They can easily add new quests and such without add full blown expansions. A lot of the professions have been destroyed in the wake of BH vs Jedi......poor entertainers.
NeoBlaze2k3
Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:03 am
#5
A VERY long time ago, I thought I read some where Lucas saying he wanted jedi to be rare. In my opinion, I doubt G.L really wanted the game to turn his movies and legacy into this, but who knows. Maybe he sold out to the almight dollar too?
Anyway, back on post. Sounds good to me, only problem is it'll make the other professions pointless. Who would want to be a commando when they could be an elite imperial profession thingy. The problem isn't jedi, it's just that they aren't focusing on improving the gameplay of other classes right now. Right now they are catering to the alpha class. Right now, jedi are perfect, despite what they say...what else could need or what (besides FRS)? Now it's time to focus on other classes in my opinion. As of now, the only reason worth playing this game is to become a jedi or to mindlessly fight mobs all day...What about being a dancer...no fun in that anymore to be honest. People use to pay to get their battle fatigue removed...now what? What about when image designers were actually used for something useful? Now is the time to improve OVERALL gameplay...but who knows what the devs have in mind...
NewPlayerTutorial
Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:07 am
#6
who wants to be a commando when they can be a jedi? point is what about us who want something elite but dont want to be a jedi? This games way over due for some new profession content and this could possibly be the key.
kaedo
Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:09 am
#7
I agree with you man......the other professions have been blown away......back in the day medics and doctors were in every major hospital..........filled with people getting healed......now the only viable option for medic is to heal yourself. Entertainers used to make so much money and were relied on......now it's a joke. Droid engineers spend a lot of time and money building droids that for the most point are useless.....well combat droids anyway. Medic droids work well. I would like to see more quests added. Instead of adding new mounts or vehicles.......I'd love to have more mission sets to work on.......that's the only thing that makes the game have a story. Boba and Jabba should have a ton of missions for Smugglers and BHs. They should be like mission terminals with an attached plotline that keeps progressing.....not just a simple set of low-level missions to do in 20 minutes to get a badge. I'd add content that only unlocks if you progress through the story.....that way you're playing toward something. I don't think the FS system in place does this well at all.
kaedo
Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:15 am
#8
I also think that they can do Jedi in a fashion that makes it fun to play and yet doesn't mean everyone would want to play one. As far as Jedi being a super-class.......yes in Star Wars jedi were powerful.......but even Auora Sing killed tons of jedi.....she was only force sensitive/padawan......she was more of a bounty hunter than anything. I just think there is a better way.......you don't have to do permadeath.........but maybe once a Jedi is killed by a BH they lose their powers for a while until they go back through a set of missions with Luke/Vader or something. I also think that BH's should lose something as well.......we only face decay......not XP loss.......maybe if we lose a fight........we have to go back through a set of BH Guild missions to get reinstated or something. I mean the XP loss to Jedi can't be taken too hard because of the grinding on Kashyyyk now.......given I understand not everyone does this or finds it ethical.......but it's there and can be done.
kaedo
Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:21 am
#9
How about this???
Jedi loses to BH.
Rebel (Light Jedi)
You have been defeated in combat and put the Rebellion at risk. Your Jedi status has been revoked until you seek out Luke Skywalker and attain his counsel.
This would follow with a set of missions to get your Jedi skills back......and restore everything to normal.
Empire (Dark Jedi)
You have been defeated in combat and put theEmpire at risk. Your Jedi status has been revoked until you seek outDarth Vaderand attain his counsel.
This would follow with a set of missions to get your Jedi skills back......and restore everything to normal.
BH loses to Jedi
You have been defeated in combat and embarrassed the BH Guild. Until further notice, your BH status and ability to hunt jedi has been revoked until you seek out Boba Fettand attain his counsel.
This would follow with a set of missions to get yourBH skills back......and restore everything to normal.
Just an idea.
Vecasius
Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:25 am
#10
So keep the game the way it is but force some stupid penalty quest on us?
Im sure that would make BH/jedi conflict less heated.
Im almost tempted to use foul language.
GlargTheKelfn
Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:30 am
#11
just remove xp loss, everyone fights, everyone has fun, hate goes away, gameplay goes up.
it's just too damn simple for soe to do.
it's just too damn simple for soe to do.
NeoBlaze2k3
Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:32 am
#12
Almost every idea players give is just to improve their own profession. As I said before, the problem is the Jedi, it's the lack of content and intrest in other professions. There is nothing more the devs can give jedi, as their main priorty (in my eyes) was to take care of the alpha profession first. That is done, well without the frs, but soon all professions will be taken care off...in theory anyway.
NewPlayerTutorial
Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:33 am
#13
lets not force more infamous "swg quests" on anyone. why not choosing between two options (like between closest cloning term and predestined) of
One being accept the death and attempt to regain your strength
jedi looses XP at a smaller ammount than current,BH is dropped one bounty dificulty level untill he proves him self again with a npc mission.
Two attempt to learn from the loss and continue
Jedi simply talks to factional jedi and continues on his merry ways, BH talks to boba.
The second option actually makes sense if you reduce the XP loss of jedi, being its so high now.
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