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Thread: First run-in with exploiting jedi mark and friends...

teufelhundenE4
Sun Jul 10, 2005 11:36 pm
#1


I got a mission today on a level 79 jedi. I am a level 73 3/4/4/4 BH and M Carb. Anyway, when I got to the player city he was in, I walked past the cantina he was at and got a /duel message. I thought "great, he knows I'm here now". Lo and behold, he actually comes out of the cantina. I am amazed thinking this might actually be a cool jedi and is willing to fight, even though I totally lost the element of suprise with the /duel exploit. I went ahead and hit him twice and he takes off running back into the cantina. As soon as he does this, 6 or so of his friends come running out spamming me with /duel requests and I get the "You are banned from using this cities services" message ran across my monitor about 20 times in a row. Then of course I get the messages about how gay I am for attacking a jedi and how I'm a wus and all this crap. It happened to be an Imp jedi and I am Imp (which I am going to switch to neutral because I'm not wanting to deal with the grief I got from his friends again) so of course I also got alot of crap about how I'm a traitor and such. I stated that I was there hunting a jedi mark, not an Imp. So I got a /tell from someone (probably the mayor) telling me to please leave and that the town was sick of having so many BH's coming in. He did apologize for the behavior of these people outside the cantina, but I'm sure that I'm still banned from town.


Anyway, I just wanted to come here and say that I think that my hunting jedi are getting close to being over...jedi aren't the valiant, good natured, mature people they used to be when I first hunted. The tells of "great fight, you almost had me " are gone. The only thing I see now is that....


A.) All jedi that get hunted now accuse you of "ganking" them (yes, even when your alone)

B.) Any time you hunt a jedi in a player city, you will get banned from that city.

C.) There is no honor in the fight anymore...14 year olds still need to learn what honor is.

D.) If you find a jedi in town, they'll run into a cantina.....if you find a jedi outside of town, they'll throw down a house and run in.....if you find a jedi on Kashyyyk, they'll run to the nearest bridge....if you find a jedi period and actually try to fight him, you will be drowned out by hate tells and derogatory remarks from the people he's with.

E.) With publish 20 coming up, which I doubt there will be a change to the TC notes (there rarely ever is before it goes live), BH will end up being a very difficult proffession to play and the jedi will be that much safer...and of course we will still have to deal with all of the above if we do find a jedi mark.


After this little episode today I was quite depressed, remembering how it used to be when jedi's had some character but I can see now this is not that case anymore and it will never be the case again.


You all can comment if you want but I just had to get this off my chest.



Had to edit this once so I don't offend some jedi that I respect....there are a few jedi out there that deserve respect and fight valiantly and are really quite friendly and fun people...even when they are standing over your dead corpse, they are respectful.

Unfortunately, that's about 3% of the jedi population anymore.

Message Edited by teufelhundenE4 on 07-11-2005 02:42 AM



Teufelhunden


Master Smuggler~~Master Bounty Hunter~~Imperial Colonel
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Corsec Ace Pilot~~Kauri Server
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milkchan
Sun Jul 10, 2005 11:37 pm
#2

1st



lol no seriously think about it man. Jedi are running for there life. they are going to lose hard earnd xp. thats not fun to deal with. see it from there point of view. they dont want to lose xp and there friends dont want them to as well. also if the mark was 78K i can garuntee he has had BH on him all day. you have to understand MOST bh are like you and go after only low levels. i grind in groups and all day i see the low levels get ganked. These bh act tough cause they know they will win.


Pick up CM with your temp and go solo some 200k jedi and above. Ignore what wother jedi say and on how they can OWN all cm bh cause they cant. send a tell to zoidburg on tempest server and he will let you know how to solo 200k and above cause he does it all the time. almost NO jedi can beat him on our server.

Message Edited by milkchan on 07-10-2005 11:43 PM



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ErveStarr
Sun Jul 10, 2005 11:40 pm
#3

/addignore is your friend



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FettandhisVett
Sun Jul 10, 2005 11:45 pm
#4

Jedi a jackholes nowadays, i feel sorry about the 10 good jedi out there that get a bad rep because of the 20k (its freaking wild guess) morons accross the servers
rubix-pewb
Sun Jul 10, 2005 11:51 pm
#5



FettandhisVett wrote:
Jedi a jackholes nowadays, i feel sorry about the 10 good jedi out there that get a bad rep because of the 20k (its freaking wild guess) morons accross the servers



I feel the same way about some of the BH's nowadays. There's always someone who can't adapt to change that cries "nerf that" or "its an I win button" or "I don't know how to deal that skill!!". The honorable BH are the ones who see the change coming and try to adapt their playstyle BEFORE it hits. They also reserve judgement on changes until they have a chance to see them for themselves.
Slayer-Titan
Sun Jul 10, 2005 11:53 pm
#6

I dont know how you feel Teufel...i understand both sides of the arguement....yeah...the exp is hard earned...but still...the point to BH is to hunt the jedi and other people...npc wise(i dont understan the hole jedi thing, smuggler would be a much better option) i dont wanna loose my exp...but if i where to get killed, i'd still have the honor to say "good job" if the BH isnt a total pr1ck. Jedi...i ask all of you that will read this message(ill probally get flamed for this) but dont have your friends flame the jedi...i dont...and a lot of BH have become my friends, you dont need to spam them...just ignore the BH if you dont wanna go out...still no reason to flame the BH...my two cents.



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teufelhundenE4
Sun Jul 10, 2005 11:59 pm
#7






milkchan wrote:

1st



lol no seriously think about it man. Jedi are running for there life. they are going to lose hard earnd xp. thats not fun to deal with. see it from there point of view. they dont want to lose xp and there friends dont want them to as well. also if the mark was 78K i can garuntee he has had BH on him all day. you have to understand MOST bh are like you and go after only low levels. i grind in groups and all day i see the low levels get ganked. These bh act tough cause they know they will win.


Pick up CM with your temp and go solo some 200k jedi and above. Ignore what wother jedi say and on how they can OWN all cm bh cause they cant. send a tell to zoidburg on tempest server and he will let you know how to solo 200k and above cause he does it all the time. almost NO jedi can beat him on our server.

Message Edited by milkchan on 07-10-2005 11:43 PM



Actually the mission was for 110k...I wasn't looking for a 70k mission for the same reason you mentioned. Being a level 73 I know there isn't any possible way I can go against a level 80 jedi...I was doubting very much that I would walk away from said level 79 jedi, but I figured it was worth a shot since I was there anyway.I also have never hunted a jedi grouped, cause to be honest I can't stand grouping (I'm gonna have to get used to that considering the SWG changes of late). And this was also on my character on Kauri, not Tempest....my Tempest character doesn't hunt jedi anymore, or at least not in a looong time.




Teufelhunden


Master Smuggler~~Master Bounty Hunter~~Imperial Colonel
Black Epsilon Ace Pilot~~Tempest Server
Master Carbineer~~Master Bounty Hunter~~Neutral
Corsec Ace Pilot~~Kauri Server
"The quickest way to a man's heart....is through his ribcage."
Oldetimer
Sun Jul 10, 2005 11:59 pm
#8



This is another post about how my mark is hiding....


Rules To Bounty Hunter...


1) Bounty Hunter isnt a loving profession... when you hunt a jedi and try to kill him you dont get a "i love you lets go out for dinner sometime" You will get smack talked and banned.... You get that with the tag...


2) Jedi will run, jump, crawl,swim, and even exploit(not all) to not lose xp.. Its the way of survival.


3) If a jedi does not attack he can freely go in his house b/c of the TEF system out right now..


4) There is no such thing as a "i win button" there is ways around everything get smart.. You might lose the element of surprise but you dont lose the element of striking.


5) Get in the jedi boots or um.. robe he is scared to death b/c he dosent want to regrind xp and banning will put more stress or time for you to go back to that town.


6) if your not enjoying Bounty hunter do another profession. (like i did dont hunt the mark be the mark lol)


7) **Added** Also, They will blow up your bikes run, jump on buddies bike and laugh at you.. Part of the game Blame the CSR's (I think they are Canadians )



Message Edited by Oldetimer on 07-11-2005 12:00 AM

Message Edited by Oldetimer on 07-11-2005 12:14 AM



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teufelhundenE4
Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:02 am
#9






Oldetimer wrote:



This is another post about how my mark is hiding....


Sorry, had to get it off my chest...I was irritated by this and it kind of bubbled over as I was reading the jedi boards with all their patting on the back and "way to go lol" posts referring to things like this. Note to self: Don't read the jedi boards anymore for fear of having to come back here and "vent" for awhile.


Rules To Bounty Hunter...


1) Bounty Hunter isnt a loving profession... when you hunt a jedi and try to kill him you dont get a "i love you lets go out for dinner sometime" You will get smack talked and banned.... You get that with the tag...


I never expected an "I love you", but I didn't expect the smack talk and the "your so gay" crap either, well maybe I did but it's not cool.


2) Jedi will run, jump, crawl,swim, and even exploit(not all) to not lose xp.. Its the way of survival.


Understandable that they would try to get away or, god forbid, try and fight back...but the running into houses and stuff is just an exploit and it's one of the things I'm definitely glad they're fixing in pub 20.


3) If a jedi does not attack he can freely go in his house b/c of the TEF system out right now..


Read comment above, exploit fixes=happy....more exploits to come after pub 20=of course, just give the player base time to find them.


4) There is no such thing as a "i win button" there is ways around everything get smart.. You might lose the element of surprise but you dont lose the element of striking.


I never asked for an "I win" button, I'll leave that to the jedi forum, and I am smart, just not very patient...and that is one of my downfalls


5) Get in the jedi boots or um.. robe he is scared to death b/c he dosent want to regrind xp and banning will put more stress or time for you to go back to that town.


I'd be scared too, but I'd be more careful about visibility if I were that scared....and as for the banning, I think it is cheap and rediculous, but that is another HUGE discussion that won't all fit into this reply.


6) if your not enjoying Bounty hunter do another profession. (like i did dont hunt the mark be the mark lol)


I enjoy bounty hunter very much, I just don't like the calibur of the jedi's popping up lately...and if I get jedi someday (which yes, I'd like to someday) I will use jedi's I've known from the past as an example. Jedi's that were curtious and just all around great people that would be honorable in both victory and defeat....jedi's that we seem to have a serious lack of as of late.


7) **Added** Also, They will blow up your bikes run, jump on buddies bike and laugh at you.. Part of the game Blame the CSR's (I think they are Canadians )


Thank you, I will blame the CSR's...and they might be Canadians but I'm an equal opportunity blamer, everyone's to blame.



Message Edited by Oldetimer on 07-11-2005 12:00 AM


Message Edited by Oldetimer on 07-11-2005 12:14 AM








Teufelhunden


Master Smuggler~~Master Bounty Hunter~~Imperial Colonel
Black Epsilon Ace Pilot~~Tempest Server
Master Carbineer~~Master Bounty Hunter~~Neutral
Corsec Ace Pilot~~Kauri Server
"The quickest way to a man's heart....is through his ribcage."
Lion1596
Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:02 am
#10

lmao...that's about all I can think of after reading the first post. Please don't stop hunting Jedi because some fags think you're a wuss. Theres too much Jedi..we need to even the population. Hell, i'm actually onmy way to mastering BH and CM because of this epidemic. And you're not a traitor because you're neutral. Those idiots are what they are...complete and total idiots. The thought of wanting to hear the folks around the cantina frustrates me unimaginably because I can't believe I missed out on the amusement of seeing this crap. These are just my thoughts...
Lion1596
Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:04 am
#11

P.S i also read the Jedi posts lol
teufelhundenE4
Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:10 am
#12






twilight2020 wrote:

All i got to say is lame, on the jedis part and on his friends part. i have been attacked in my city, outside my own house on numerous occasions lol and as long as they dont talk smack i dont say anything to them except good job. While inside iam like great another freakn 340k down the hole lol. Iam part of the milita of my city and it has been brought up numerous times about banning bounty hunters for fighting in the city ( our city is a no pvp rule city) but each time i have said and still say that bounty hunters shouldonly be banned for griefing or trash talk, taking a mission on us is part of thier trade. It takes the whole militias vote in order to ban someonein our city. Our only rules are if a bh is repeatedly taking a citizens bounties like every day or trashtalk. So far we havent had to ban anyone and i hope we never do. Sorry to hear about your cituation and i hope you reported them for harrasmant.








Thank you for being one of those jedi that other jedi should strive to be, and the fact that you don't ban BH's for doing their job is amazing, good for you


and no, I didn't report them cause frankly I was shocked that I was experiencingwhat I've been reading all along on the boards and couldn't bring myself to report them....I didn't know that was an option since it wasn't really bad, just very immature and dumb.



Teufelhunden


Master Smuggler~~Master Bounty Hunter~~Imperial Colonel
Black Epsilon Ace Pilot~~Tempest Server
Master Carbineer~~Master Bounty Hunter~~Neutral
Corsec Ace Pilot~~Kauri Server
"The quickest way to a man's heart....is through his ribcage."
Diversion
Mon Jul 11, 2005 3:05 am
#13






milkchan wrote:

1st



...MOST bh are like you and go after only low levels. i grind in groups and all day i see the low levels get ganked. These bh act tough cause they know they will win...



Message Edited by milkchan on 07-10-2005 11:43 PM




Point taken, however...


All BHs are not in their servers top 20 or even 100 when it comes to PvP. Then we have knights who say duel me or take my mission instead. Is it not the same thing? They say it because they are almost certain they will win.


Another example is "Come back when I am full temp and I will fight you" same thing there.


I am just pointing out that Jedi are no better than BH in this regard.


On a sidenote I am sick of Paddys saying how helpless they are. Many do not seem to undersatand that by playing it smart and holding on to their old rifleman, pistoleer etc. can put up quite a fight. I once had a 50k bounty produce a powerhammer and beat the crap out of me.





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