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Thread: A simple solution to Jedi on Kashyyyk

Kyyrtek
Mon Jun 27, 2005 10:09 pm
#1

OK - this is straight from the Julio Torres Bounty Huunter interview link on the SWG.com frontpage.


SWG Vault: Kashyyyk is currently a safe haven for Jedi, where they can intiate combat in the wide open without any relative danger from Bounty Hunters. Are any alternatives in planning that keep the quest environment intact, but at the same time keep the danger of being a Jedi alive?

Julio Torres: The planet Kashyyyk was designed for most part as an adventure planet with a directed experience for everyone to enjoy. The current plan is to keep this planet a quested story-driven planet for all of our players. There are no current plans to change the status of the Jedi there. Please keep in mind that no one can "live" in Kashyyyk -- we are not allowing houses to be built there. Everyone eventually will have to leave the planet and expose themselves to the other planets of the universe, where there is plenty of tension between Jedi and Bounty Hunters.



So Kashyyyk is intended to be just an adventure planet, where people aren't supposed to 'live' and they are meant to go out into the galaxy. So if this actually is the case, why not just remove all xp on Kashyyyk? Almost all the npc kills on Kashyyyk right now are either for quests or loot, which supports the claim that it is a quest based planet. XP is not necessary for the Kashyyyk npc's, and the only thing it does is encourage players to grind there, where as on other planets (even for regular professions) getting killed by an npc has repercussions.

Remove xp from Kashyyyk and this issue is easily resolved, while reinforcing the claim that Kashyyyk is an adventure planet and not an intended safehouse for Jedi.



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Cada_Kai
Mon Jun 27, 2005 10:23 pm
#2


its not a safe haven for Jedi.


You just need to learn how to hunt instead of following a WP to your target.



Message Edited by Cada_Kai on 06-27-2005 10:23 PM



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LordMarr
Mon Jun 27, 2005 10:31 pm
#3

Great idea there, its a quest planet, only reason i go there is to do quests and seek adventure, experience is a nice little bonus but not the reason why i go there. If they removed experience points from the wookie planet then it would but an end the the droid issues and the LOS bug in the Rryatt trails. If you are a jedi and want to do quests just like everyone else you can go there and do them just like everyone else.


But i would make it to even the playing field is that if you get a mission on a jedi and he is on the wookie planet you dont get a tef on the jedi until he goes to a normal planet. Just trying to be fair that is all. Jedi goes there to quest, let em quest, but you dont get any experience and dont have to worry about any bounty hunters either.
Cada_Kai
Mon Jun 27, 2005 10:33 pm
#4






LordMarr wrote:

Great idea there, its a quest planet, only reason i go there is to do quests and seek adventure, experience is a nice little bonus but not the reason why i go there. If they removed experience points from the wookie planet then it would but an end the the droid issues and the LOS bug in the Rryatt trails. If you are a jedi and want to do quests just like everyone else you can go there and do them just like everyone else.


But i would make it to even the playing field is that if you get a mission on a jedi and he is on the wookie planet you dont get a tef on the jedi until he goes to a normal planet. Just trying to be fair that is all. Jedi goes there to quest, let em quest, but you dont get any experience and dont have to worry about any bounty hunters either.






yeah nar it sucks when people use the LOS exploit.


I thinkanyone Jedi/BH whoever uses it they should get punished.





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Kyyrtek
Mon Jun 27, 2005 10:36 pm
#5



Cada_Kai wrote:

its not a safe haven for Jedi.

You just need to learn how to hunt instead of following a WP to your target.

Message Edited by Cada_Kai on 06-27-2005 10:23 PM




Not once do I say it is impossible to hunt on Kashyyyk. In fact, I agree that just showing up at a waypoint is not only too easy, its also a pretty dumb move for any BH out there. The post is a constructive solution to a legitimate issue, and I thank you for trolling here to show us how threatened you Jedi are by positive ideas that could be detrimental to game systems that make your grind easier.



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Kyyrtek
Mon Jun 27, 2005 10:38 pm
#6



LordMarr wrote:
Great idea there, its a quest planet, only reason i go there is to do quests and seek adventure, experience is a nice little bonus but not the reason why i go there. If they removed experience points from the wookie planet then it would but an end the the droid issues and the LOS bug in the Rryatt trails. If you are a jedi and want to do quests just like everyone else you can go there and do them just like everyone else.
But i would make it to even the playing field is that if you get a mission on a jedi and he is on the wookie planet you dont get a tef on the jedi until he goes to a normal planet. Just trying to be fair that is all. Jedi goes there to quest, let em quest, but you dont get any experience and dont have to worry about any bounty hunters either.




excellent addition - I really like the idea about the tef not kicking in until the mark is on another planet. Much like when a mark is in space, you can follow and 'track', but you must wait until they are groundside on a regular planet to initiate combat.



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Cada_Kai
Mon Jun 27, 2005 10:42 pm
#7






Kyyrtek wrote:





Cada_Kai wrote:


its not a safe haven for Jedi.


You just need to learn how to hunt instead of following a WP to your target.




Message Edited by Cada_Kai on 06-27-2005 10:23 PM





Not once do I say it is impossible to hunt on Kashyyyk. In fact, I agree that just showing up at a waypoint is not only too easy, its also a pretty dumb move for any BH out there. The post is a constructive solution to a legitimate issue, and I thank you for trolling here to show us how threatened you Jedi are by positive ideas that could be detrimental to game systems that make your grind easier.





actually if you read my posts I am very supportive of BH ideas.. atleast those that arent slated to one side.


You want Jedi hidden, you want them in the open so you can kill them easier.


there are about 450000 posts with this same exact idea posted every day. ok maybe the tef thing is different.


But no i am not threatened by you, or your ideas. I just find them to be the staus quo and nothing new is being thought up except nerf this or change that so my hunting can be easy.






Cada Kai Jedi Padawan

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"I couldn't be more bugged if my name was Buggy McBuggyPants." -FunkyZabrak

Nakahs
Mon Jun 27, 2005 10:55 pm
#8

5 stars for the original poster ! finally a very constructive and fair solution for all. Even my jedi friends say that kashyyyk is very unfair atm and they liked the idea. Well one told me its good for jedi but very unfair for bhs so why change it ? lol ( i picked it as a joke cause we all know most people want a fair game )


Only thing im afraid is that people who are actually grinding their jedi wont like the idea that they cant grind anymore without being hunted. But i hope they see that this circumstance broke the jedi/bh system totally and makes it too easy to become a full jedi what is not a real effort anymore. Also the Dead Spot where jedi cant be attacked when a very much time investigating bh even found him on this huge planet with their many instances kills the fun of being hunted and hunt... its only for those who like exploiters and not want to do it the right way.


Ok maybe i see things sometimes with a pink binocular but after all that nice changes in the last time why implement more bugs / ways to exploit and circumstances the bh prof again gets so hard punishes? Finally a bh is able to kill an average (not outskilled) jedi if he has skill,a good template and the right equipment, but now the jedi who we can kill are not reachable cause of kashyyyk and in some cases even the Dead Spot Exploit.


However the Idea of No Xp on Kashyyyk is great and would repair the broken bh/jedi system. It also fits to the idea that it should be a adventure planet and not a "group hunt" or a "safe jedigrinding place".





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Kyyrtek
Mon Jun 27, 2005 10:55 pm
#9



Cada_Kai wrote:


Kyyrtek wrote:


Cada_Kai wrote:

its not a safe haven for Jedi.

You just need to learn how to hunt instead of following a WP to your target.

Message Edited by Cada_Kai on 06-27-2005 10:23 PM




Not once do I say it is impossible to hunt on Kashyyyk. In fact, I agree that just showing up at a waypoint is not only too easy, its also a pretty dumb move for any BH out there. The post is a constructive solution to a legitimate issue, and I thank you for trolling here to show us how threatened you Jedi are by positive ideas that could be detrimental to game systems that make your grind easier.


actually if you read my posts I am very supportive of BH ideas.. atleast those that arent slated to one side.

You want Jedi hidden, you want them in the open so you can kill them easier.

there are about 450000 posts with this same exact idea posted every day. ok maybe the tef thing is different.

But no i am not threatened by you, or your ideas. I just find them to be the staus quo and nothing new is being thought up except nerf this or change that so my hunting can be easy.





I apologize if the ideas in this post have been brought up before, and I have missed them.
Also, I agree that there needs to be less 1-sidedness and more open-minded posts. I started to lace into you personally, but only because your first post to this thread was a typical 'the status quo and nothing new', 'go learn how to hunt' answer that all the jedi that troll here post.
You may not agree, but Kashyyyk is a haven for Jedi. Although its not that hard, it is extremely time consuming to hunt there.



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Cada_Kai
Mon Jun 27, 2005 11:01 pm
#10






Kyyrtek wrote:





Cada_Kai wrote:





Kyyrtek wrote:





Cada_Kai wrote:


its not a safe haven for Jedi.


You just need to learn how to hunt instead of following a WP to your target.




Message Edited by Cada_Kai on 06-27-2005 10:23 PM





Not once do I say it is impossible to hunt on Kashyyyk. In fact, I agree that just showing up at a waypoint is not only too easy, its also a pretty dumb move for any BH out there. The post is a constructive solution to a legitimate issue, and I thank you for trolling here to show us how threatened you Jedi are by positive ideas that could be detrimental to game systems that make your grind easier.





actually if you read my posts I am very supportive of BH ideas.. atleast those that arent slated to one side.


You want Jedi hidden, you want them in the open so you can kill them easier.


there are about 450000 posts with this same exact idea posted every day. ok maybe the tef thing is different.


But no i am not threatened by you, or your ideas. I just find them to be the staus quo and nothing new is being thought up except nerf this or change that so my hunting can be easy.









I apologize if the ideas in this post have been brought up before, and I have missed them.
Also, I agree that there needs to be less 1-sidedness and more open-minded posts. I started to lace into you personally, but only because your first post to this thread was a typical 'the status quo and nothing new', 'go learn how to hunt' answer that all the jedi that troll here post.
You may not agree, but Kashyyyk is a haven for Jedi. Although its not that hard, it is extremely time consuming to hunt there.




From a jedi....

Ill tell you how to save time on kashyyyk

Go to any instance.

Write down the names of the people grindingg there.

Go to a terminal.

Find the mission

return to kashyyyk and take out your mark.



Sorry for the originaly status quo response I gave. Iam just blown away by the amount of hate for things ina game.




Cada Kai Jedi Padawan

Iak Adac Jedi Hunter

"I couldn't be more bugged if my name was Buggy McBuggyPants." -FunkyZabrak

The_Shruberer
Mon Jun 27, 2005 11:27 pm
#11






Cada_Kai wrote:






Kyyrtek wrote:





Cada_Kai wrote:





Kyyrtek wrote:





Cada_Kai wrote:


its not a safe haven for Jedi.


You just need to learn how to hunt instead of following a WP to your target.




Message Edited by Cada_Kai on 06-27-2005 10:23 PM





Not once do I say it is impossible to hunt on Kashyyyk. In fact, I agree that just showing up at a waypoint is not only too easy, its also a pretty dumb move for any BH out there. The post is a constructive solution to a legitimate issue, and I thank you for trolling here to show us how threatened you Jedi are by positive ideas that could be detrimental to game systems that make your grind easier.





actually if you read my posts I am very supportive of BH ideas.. atleast those that arent slated to one side.


You want Jedi hidden, you want them in the open so you can kill them easier.


there are about 450000 posts with this same exact idea posted every day. ok maybe the tef thing is different.


But no i am not threatened by you, or your ideas. I just find them to be the staus quo and nothing new is being thought up except nerf this or change that so my hunting can be easy.









I apologize if the ideas in this post have been brought up before, and I have missed them.
Also, I agree that there needs to be less 1-sidedness and more open-minded posts. I started to lace into you personally, but only because your first post to this thread was a typical 'the status quo and nothing new', 'go learn how to hunt' answer that all the jedi that troll here post.
You may not agree, but Kashyyyk is a haven for Jedi. Although its not that hard, it is extremely time consuming to hunt there.




From a jedi....

Ill tell you how to save time on kashyyyk

Go to any instance.

Write down the names of the people grindingg there.

Go to a terminal.

Find the mission

return to kashyyyk and take out your mark.



Sorry for the originaly status quo response I gave. Iam just blown away by the amount of hate for things ina game.






Works like a charm... except the 90% of the time that they run to the bridge.



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Cada_Kai
Mon Jun 27, 2005 11:44 pm
#12

yeah i agree teh bridge sucks.


as ive said 1000000 times anyone using it Jedi/BH whatever should get punished.



Funny thing. Idont use it, but I have had BHs come for me use it to heal up. iusually just drag them to the blackscale camp after that and let them do my work for me.






Cada Kai Jedi Padawan

Iak Adac Jedi Hunter

"I couldn't be more bugged if my name was Buggy McBuggyPants." -FunkyZabrak

_Apache
Tue Jun 28, 2005 4:09 am
#13


Why are there so many CL 80+ critters on Kashyyk anyway? Anybody went to fight Grievous yet? There are what seems to be Hundreds of CL 80+ spiders along the way.


I understand that SOE wants us to be more Group oriented, and I understand that Grievous isnt supposed to be easy to get too, but ...Wow.



On an unrelated topic.....whats up with this "Invaled HTML" stuff?



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