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Thread: Weapon Speed question

Taqwus
Mon Sep 15, 2003 9:52 pm
#1

I saw a post about what weapon speed bonus give but I can not seem to find it


Can someone explain weapon speeds for me and what exactly does a +20 speed give




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Innos
Tue Sep 16, 2003 1:35 am
#2

Some forumers claim to have tested this and the weapon skill bonus equals a direct percentage reduction to your weapon speed. I.e. 4.0s weapon and +20 skill means you fire every 3.2s. Weapon speed is however capped at 1s (a fact from the DEVs).


Discussion about this: http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=commando&message.id=15379&highlight=#M15379


BlasterForHire
Tue Sep 16, 2003 5:49 am
#3






Innos wrote:

Weapon speed is however capped at 1s (a fact from the DEVs).







not exactly true...


max. weapon speed is capped at 1s. however, the adjusted weapons speed is kept for special move calculations. so, if you have an adjusted weapon speed of 0.6 with your blaster, your regular attacks are at 1s (the cap). but, if you use a special with a 3x time mod, you attack at 1.8, not 3.


watch a master rifleman shoot headshots with a T21, sometime. the weapon speed is 7+, and ours can shoot them very close to the speed cap.

Daxl
Tue Sep 16, 2003 7:07 am
#4

What ever you speed bonus, your weapon speed is lowered by that percentage. So at level 4, +80 speed, you're 80% faster with any weapon of that type. Which means with pistol you can shoot most all of your specials at or near 1.0 second speed.



Kardask
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Daxl
Tue Sep 16, 2003 7:08 am
#5






Daxl wrote:
What ever you speed bonus, your weapon speed is lowered by that percentage. So at level 4, +80 speed, you're 80% faster with any weapon of that type. Which means with pistol you can shoot most all of your specials at or near 1.0 second speed.




Erm, you're not 80% faster, your weapon speed is reduced by 80%, which I guess makes you way more than 80% faster.



Kardask
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guxx99
Tue Sep 16, 2003 7:53 am
#6

Just curious.


Where do you guys get these numbers, figures, %, etc? Is it a fact that devs told you? Did you test it w/ a stop watch? If so, how is it true when there is a lag between server and client?



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Daxl
Tue Sep 16, 2003 7:59 am
#7

I believe a dev posted it. Additionally, you can test it by time-stamping yours logs, although I never have.



Kardask
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RaccaBoo
Tue Sep 16, 2003 8:59 am
#8

How do you time stamp your logs? I wanna test some things on speed as I have alot of time to do stuff other than lvl in game. Investigation exp is sooooo slooooowwwwwww.



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SkepticalJS
Tue Sep 16, 2003 9:02 am
#9

Its funny to see the number crunchers out there.


Really all you need to beable to observe is that with BH Pistol 3 I shoot so fast with my scatter that its like a never ending stream of death.


Faster = better.



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Shadow2k
Tue Sep 16, 2003 10:12 am
#10

(WeaponSpeed * SpecialDelayMod) - (WeaponSpeed * SpecialDelayMod) * (PistolSpeed/100)
And if result < 1.0s , result = 1.0s


Basically, +20 speed means a 20% reduction in speed, and you will never fire faster than one round per second. +100 or more gives you 100% reduction, so you'd fire once per second.




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JamsinAmo
Tue Sep 16, 2003 10:37 am
#11






SkepticalJS wrote:

Its funny to see the number crunchers out there.


Really all you need to beable to observe is that with BH Pistol 3 I shoot so fast with my scatter that its like a never ending stream of death.


Faster = better.



Skep








I agree with faster = better.


I hope for speed slices on my weapons because hitting more often is almost always better than hitting for more damage, but less often. My LLC is sliced for speed and (when it hits...) it's quite nice. When a baddie gets close i still whip out the scat and blow him off his feet.


speed = better




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SkepticalJS
Tue Sep 16, 2003 10:45 am
#12

JamsinAmo wrote...


"I agree with faster = better.


I hope for speed slices on my weapons because hitting more often is almost always better than hitting for more damage, but less often. My LLC is sliced for speed and (when it hits...) it's quite nice. When a baddie gets close i still whip out the scat and blow him off his feet.


speed = better"


I would like to clarify what I meant earlier. Faster = better as far as the speed skill mod. "More is better" should have been what I said.


There comes a point when getting a speed slice on your pistol really is the wrong way to go. Once you get under that cap, more speed doesn't make any more difference. If you shoot as fast as possible, why worry about shooting faster.


That said, I'm not sure what kind of stats you are able to get on a scatter pistol in your galaxy, but I'm pretty confident anything under a 2.0 speed would not really require a speed slice. In the case of maxed out speed, definately go for damage.


With weapons like LLC, I definatly want a speed slice. 400-800 at 3.5 is much more than 500-900 at 4.5.


Also, if you have the inclination, go buy some crates of damage powerups from a weaponsmith. +30% damage is pretty significant. It can make alot of difference on that scatter. Wish we had powerups for heavy weapons.


Above all, experiment with it. Find your balance.


Skep




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Shadow2k
Tue Sep 16, 2003 1:13 pm
#13

BTW, that formula is from the Pistoleer FAQ that their correspondent tested out. Just thought I should give credit where credit is due.,.as there tends to be quite a bit of Pistoleer bashing going on all the time.



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