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Greetings brothers and sisters-

I've noticed a lot of concern with the god-like boss mobs and their almost-invincibility. I would like to post my observations and my experiences on how to actually defeat them. Let me make things clear right away. I'm talking about the 35k+ boss mobs that have insane regen. I will admit there are many boss mobs that seem like they are impossible, but don't actually qualify for the insane or god-like tag. Again, I am only talking about the really really vicious beasts out there. Also, I'm talking about my experiences. I'm sure others have different techniques, but I can't talk for them... I only know what I know.

History: My template is MBH/MCM/Pistol xxx3 with some FS thrown in. I have defeated two of these guys solo, and half a dozen others with backup. I now use a healer to assist me (she is CL 58), just so I don't tear up my bank account as bad (I don't use sliced armor when there's a healer). Also, this is not a bragging thread. Seriously. I have no rightto brag. These guys are tough and have owned me going solo far more than I have owned them. There is no shame in getting owned - only in giving up.

Here's what I have learned:

1) Mind is your most important stat. This means:

• Your heals must be at their most efficient. Get a med droid so you can heal for more, less often


• Stims are your friends. Do anything to save that precious blue bar


• Your foods should help you conserve / increase / regenerate your mind.

2) You have to use DoTs

• Their regen is just too fast - you have to have something that will slow it down. Even MCM DoTs won't keep them from regenerating health, but if I didn't use them, I'd never win

3) Your armor has to be top-notch

• You need high ratings on your armor


• You need AB - even if you kite, they will catch up to you and AB you... prepare for it


• NOTE: I use kinetic armor (composite) and just go toe-to-toe with them. Since I know they will pound on me, I just plan for it. I tried kiting with high energy resist, but when they started melee-smacking me, it hurt too much and I broke rule #1 - I wasted too much Mind.

4) Specials are not your friend

• These guys take a while, so don't burn up your action bar.


• Use specials wisely. Example: when the AB, knock them down, or root then run away. Only use specials when it will save your most important asset - your Mind

5) Elemental damage FTW

• They have really good armor, but it seems elemental damage squeaks in like it's supposed to. I use a slug-thrower with 170 elemental damage which hits decently against these guys. I found kinetic works better than energy attacks as well.


• Regardless, make sure your weapon does a lot of damage quickly without the need to spam specials.

6) Accuracy vs. Defense

• These stats have never been more important.


• These guys flurry, and will force you to miss (another reason not to spam specials). You will miss a lot even when they aren't in flurry mode. Get your accuracy up, or you will be healing longer (violating rule #1)


• Defense. Get your defense up, because they hit close to max damage if you don't. That will make you heal more often (again, violating rule #1)

7) Buffs are critical...

• ...but make sure you do everything in your power to make sure mind regen and pool are as big as you can get them.

That's what I know. Also, if anyone decides they want to reply with how uber they are, and how much I suck if I can't take them down in under 5 minutes, then I will just bow to your uberness and admit I suck. I don't care. BUT, I hope that this provides some information that will help at least one person defeat these guys.

/salute

- Traal

Kettemoor

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ekimocyc006 wrote:
you should not have to have all of this just to beat a solo encounter. this is not fun and sucks when everyone has to have the same temp to fight these marks.

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/agreed but some great tips there nonetheless

Good tips !!!

Having good food combos is critical too:

I use Breath of Heaven, Crispic, Athenia (SP), Spice tea, Ruby Biel

Optional foods are Syth steak, Deuterium Pyroand Elica Picu Thundercloud - I use these when things are getting dicy or if my stomach allows it.

This is also the combo used for hunting Jedi, if anyone has better food combos please share

Message Edited by Ayu on 10-27-2005 12:19 PM

Message Edited by Ayu on 10-27-2005 12:20 PM

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ekimocyc006 wrote:
you should not have to have all of this just to beat a solo encounter. this is not fun and sucks when everyone has to have the same temp to fight these marks.

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Thanks for the feedback.

I agree with your opinion, but this thread isn't about that argument - it's simply my attempt to let others know how to go about it despite the game mechanic / template limitations. I know some people will not ever be able to take them down, but I don't want to get into the argument of why they won't.

- Traal

Kettemoor

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Lurue wrote:

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Traal_ wrote:

I now use a healer to assist me (she is CL 58), just so I don't tear up my bank account as bad (I don't use sliced armor when there's a healer). - Traal

Kettemoor

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Can you get help from other players when hunting these npc bh marks?

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Yes and no. She can heal me during these battles, but she cannot attack the mark (it's a white NPC for her).

She sits next to me, ungrouped, and just runs a heal macro. She doesn't start to heal until I've made sure I have aggro. I don't know if the marks would ever turn on her, but I'm not willing to take the chance. I still have to heal myself during some of the ABs, but it has allowed me to concentrate on figuring these guys out better; hense my advice above. Also, since she has to sit to maintain her Mind, that gives me one more reason not to run, but rather go toe-to-toe with the mark.

- Traal

Kettemoor

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Traal_ wrote:

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Lurue wrote:

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Traal_ wrote:

I now use a healer to assist me (she is CL 58), just so I don't tear up my bank account as bad (I don't use sliced armor when there's a healer). - Traal

Kettemoor

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Can you get help from other players when hunting these npc bh marks?

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Yes and no. She can heal me during these battles, but she cannot attack the mark (it's a white NPC for her).

She sits next to me, ungrouped, and just runs a heal macro. She doesn't start to heal until I've made sure I have aggro. I don't know if the marks would ever turn on her, but I'm not willing to take the chance. I still have to heal myself during some of the ABs, but it has allowed me to concentrate on figuring these guys out better; hense my advice above. Also, since she has to sit to maintain her Mind, that gives me one more reason not to run, but rather go toe-to-toe with the mark.

- Traal

Kettemoor

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Roeven wrote:

Yes you can get help in missions but only by healers, that is pretty common now from what I hear. People paying healers to go with them on BH missions.

But with the right strategy, you shouldn't need them.

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I agree entirely. I use a healernow because:

1) I've done it solo - mission accomplished

2) I don't like to have to replace AB'ed armor

3) I want to study these guys more, and not having to worry about heals is helpful - allows me to concentrate on weapon types / specials / et cetera

/thanks!

- Traal

Kettemoor

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Roeven wrote:

Yes you can get help in missions but only by healers, that is pretty common now from what I hear. People paying healers to go with them on BH missions.

But with the right strategy, you shouldn't need them.

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Traal_ wrote:

blah blah blah-

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so no on top of my uber 1337 MBH/MCMtemp, now I gotta go buy top-o-da line armor and get it sliced for ab, just so I can survive an encounter with a boss for 30k and a jar of bugs or -if the randomizer is working inmy favor- some smuggler crap.

boy howdy! what a deal, I can't wait to rush on out and blow my cash.

well, I don't believe that crap.

I just east meh foodzpull out meh combat + 110% med droid, pound em with dots, and keep myself healed till they wear down, and they do eventually, mind food is a must.

I will admit you chumps running MBH/MCH/CM4000 might as well beg the devs for a respec, thats a cheap reproduction of a combat temp, lame in pve and worthless in pvp.

Realy its the frist sink choice in mmogs, you can choose if it's a timesink or a moneysink

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RookFence wrote:

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Roeven wrote:

Yes you can get help in missions but only by healers, that is pretty common now from what I hear. People paying healers to go with them on BH missions.

But with the right strategy, you shouldn't need them.

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I love it...the CU's whole concept of a BH was a solo machine and one on one combat...now we almost need to take someone else with us to "help". What a joke. This isn't a flame on you Roeven, but just using your statement as a catalyst.

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Please,

I understand the arguments of "BH v. Boss being solo," and I understand the arguments that "FOTM shouldn't be critical and required" to take these guys down.

BUT...

This thread isn't intended to address these very valid issues - there are many other threads that do address this problems. I encourage everyone reading this to try and provide positive assistance to those who can benefit from this type of advice. I also encourage those who want to express their view on the other mechanics issues to join the other threads that do address these issues directly.

Thanks!

/bow

- Traal

Kettemoor

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junkwaffle75 wrote:

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Traal_ wrote:

blah blah blah-

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so no on top of my uber 1337 MBH/MCMtemp, now I gotta go buy top-o-da line armor and get it sliced for ab, just so I can survive an encounter with a boss for 30k and a jar of bugs or -if the randomizer is working inmy favor- some smuggler crap.

boy howdy! what a deal, I can't wait to rush on out and blow my cash.

well, I don't believe that crap.

I just east meh foodzpull out meh combat + 110% med droid, pound em with dots, and keep myself healed till they wear down, and they do eventually, mind food is a must.

I will admit you chumps running MBH/MCH/CM4000 might as well beg the devs for a respec, thats a cheap reproduction of a combat temp, lame in pve and worthless in pvp.

Realy its the frist sink choice in mmogs, you can choose if it's a timesink or a moneysink

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I bow to your uberness.

/bow

- Traal

Kettemoor

Thats my exact temp, im down with all you got say on that. I have done tons of these missions and i have not had a problem with any NPCers. LVL 85 nightsisters are really tuff, but doable

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