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Thread: New Expansion whats the deal?
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NJSnowblader11
Tue Oct 04, 2005 4:06 pm
#1
All kidding and wisecracks aside, does this expansion pack offer anything to non-jedi players, if there are any left....
Ruler-Jimbo
Tue Oct 04, 2005 4:07 pm
#2
reward loot to sell 
not like anyone can really tell you until it comes out...NDA on beta testers and stuff
Delta_Achilles
Tue Oct 04, 2005 4:15 pm
#3
from wat i hear this is for everyone, crafters included......
RubicksCube
Tue Oct 04, 2005 5:54 pm
#4
NJSnowblader11 wrote:
All kidding and wisecracks aside, does this expansion pack offer anything to non-jedi players, if there are any left....
Of course, its not a jedi expansion
PedricCuff
Tue Oct 04, 2005 6:09 pm
#5
My main gripe is that we keep fighting the Clone Wars, which have been over for 20 years at this point. Grrrr Sony.
Spartan-17
Tue Oct 04, 2005 7:00 pm
#6
NJSnowblader11 wrote:
All kidding and wisecracks aside, does this expansion pack offer anything to non-jedi players, if there are any left....
well u whiny bhs always call for nerf jedi here and there they better make the expansion to fix all your nerf rods
Daivan
Tue Oct 04, 2005 7:58 pm
#8
NJSnowblader11 wrote:
All kidding and wisecracks aside, does this expansion pack offer anything to non-jedi players, if there are any left....
No. This expansion offers nothing to non-Jedi players...........much in the same way that Rage of the Wookie offered nothing to non-wookie players.
DW-Acer
Tue Oct 04, 2005 11:53 pm
#9
Daivan wrote:
NJSnowblader11 wrote:
All kidding and wisecracks aside, does this expansion pack offer anything to non-jedi players, if there are any left....
No. This expansion offers nothing to non-Jedi players...........much in the same way that Rage of the Wookie offered nothing to non-wookie players.
QFE
How many times do people have to be told (NDA's don't work and we all know it) that the content is available for all players, Jedi or non? Everything I've heard from players and SOE alike is that there's no reason a non-jedi player won't have just as much fun as a jedi would with the expansion.
NarfBlinko
Wed Oct 05, 2005 5:26 am
#10
PedricCuff wrote:
My main gripe is that we keep fighting the Clone Wars, which have been over for 20 years at this point. Grrrr Sony.
In case you didn't notice, there is crap lying around our own planet from hundreds and thousands of years ago, some of it still in working condition. This is the same as the junk lying around from before EpIV that SOE is putting in the game. It adds depth to the universe. Until they decide to move us forward to EpV, the only real direction for content expansion is tying things to the past, so that's what they are doing. Oh, and the blatant marketing tie-in, of course. Lucas = Master Marketeer.
xakia
Wed Oct 05, 2005 5:50 am
#11
There will be plenty of stuff for Non-Jedi. Sure there might be a quest or two for only Jedi, but there's going to be a quest or two for only certain professions too.
Far as content included, there's suppose to be alot of encounters alike to that of the Necrosis encounter. About damn time, I say. I just hope they really drop a bomb load of this type of material onto us. We need more high level content in the game. DWG and Necrosis was a good "start."
I really look forward to participating in more unique boss type encounters.
CivicBountyHunter
Wed Oct 05, 2005 6:29 am
#12
The expansion is going to be geared for jedi, and promote the idea (to outsiders) that the game is jedi centric. Which it is now, it no longer strives to create a SW universe. Just look at the tittle, look at what is being promoted...it is all jedi, not SW. THIS WAS NOT THE POINT OF SWG.
Not to mention, the game is now more grind centric then any other MMO out there. From newbie to full template, you hunt the same mobs, generally use the same weapons, and generally wear the same armor through youre entire progession. Fun heh?
They talk about ob-y-gn 'blue glowie' give'n out quests....I bet the good guy jedi is just histatic to give an imperial BH some missions. SWG quests are dull. None of them have a compelling story line, they are usually short and apear to be half baked ideas. One good trip through Nek Castle in EQ2 has more content then almost ALL of swg. Not to mention multiple interesting story lines to follow. Heck, the $8, yes $8 digi DL mini pack for EQ2 has more content then almost all of swg. Sad really.
High end content quests? /bah, anything Devs make 'end content' balanced with jedi in mind. Long story short, if you dont have a jedi in youre group, you are somewhat out of luck. I.E. - DWB - Vette. If they balance it for mortals, jedi will breeze through it, trivializing what ever loot there is. Oh man loot, lets just get more weapons and armor in game that is quested or drops that is better then crafted goods. Why bother having schematics drop? When you can just cut out the middle man.
No mob variety anymore. CL85 is CL85, no matter a npc, krayt, nuna - damage delt, taken, misses, hits etc, asside from HAM they all have the same backround information going. The system is too dumbed down to allow any real variety. You will be get'n new models yes, but fighting a CL 85 mob on Must is going to be EXACTLY like fighting any other CL85 mob on ANY planet. Not to mention a large amount of any new mob ingame, all seem to be variables on the "the acklay" model in some form or another.
I think I heard there is no space sector ? Way to be consitant. Maybe if we try to fly in there we can get the message "Due to the heat and high sulfer, youre ships rockets can not ignite", then if there are instances (like kash) they can use the same lame message for BH droids that you guys can seem to learn the code for.
This will be the first time (hopefully the last) that both my accounts are going to be cancelled when a expansion comes out. Well, at least most likely. I only see the focus on jedi growing. Those of you that think ToO is going to be some kind of great experience I believe you are in for a big let down.
Opie76
Wed Oct 05, 2005 9:32 am
#13
CivicBountyHunter wrote:
The expansion is going to be geared for jedi, and promote the idea (to outsiders) that the game is jedi centric. Which it is now, it no longer strives to create a SW universe. Just look at the tittle, look at what is being promoted...it is all jedi, not SW. THIS WAS NOT THE POINT OF SWG.
Not to mention, the game is now more grind centric then any other MMO out there. From newbie to full template, you hunt the same mobs, generally use the same weapons, and generally wear the same armor through youre entire progession. Fun heh?
They talk about ob-y-gn 'blue glowie' give'n out quests....I bet the good guy jedi is just histatic to give an imperial BH some missions. SWG quests are dull. None of them have a compelling story line, they are usually short and apear to be half baked ideas. One good trip through Nek Castle in EQ2 has more content then almost ALL of swg. Not to mention multiple interesting story lines to follow. Heck, the $8, yes $8 digi DL mini pack for EQ2 has more content then almost all of swg. Sad really.
High end content quests? /bah, anything Devs make 'end content' balanced with jedi in mind. Long story short, if you dont have a jedi in youre group, you are somewhat out of luck. I.E. - DWB - Vette. If they balance it for mortals, jedi will breeze through it, trivializing what ever loot there is. Oh man loot, lets just get more weapons and armor in game that is quested or drops that is better then crafted goods. Why bother having schematics drop? When you can just cut out the middle man.
No mob variety anymore. CL85 is CL85, no matter a npc, krayt, nuna - damage delt, taken, misses, hits etc, asside from HAM they all have the same backround information going. The system is too dumbed down to allow any real variety. You will be get'n new models yes, but fighting a CL 85 mob on Must is going to be EXACTLY like fighting any other CL85 mob on ANY planet. Not to mention a large amount of any new mob ingame, all seem to be variables on the "the acklay" model in some form or another.
I think I heard there is no space sector ? Way to be consitant. Maybe if we try to fly in there we can get the message "Due to the heat and high sulfer, youre ships rockets can not ignite", then if there are instances (like kash) they can use the same lame message for BH droids that you guys can seem to learn the code for.
This will be the first time (hopefully the last) that both my accounts are going to be cancelled when a expansion comes out. Well, at least most likely. I only see the focus on jedi growing. Those of you that think ToO is going to be some kind of great experience I believe you are in for a big let down.
Another totally clueless poster I See. Obi Wan is just one facet of the expansion, and guess what He is not the only way you do missions! I take it your not in beta, so how about you refrain from posting stuff like this. Its your choice if you decide to purchase it or not, but do not be making false statements trying to discourage others from buying and enjoying it. For the record there has been 0 that I have done that required jedi. Yes, the expansion is geared to all players. The Devs have said this countless times.
Sure there might be some Jedi Related Loot (Lava Crystal) , but there will more than likley be tons more normal profession loot in comparison. For you NDA hounds, nothing I said here can not be thought of as violation because it's all derived from info that has been publically stated by the DEVS.
As far as content goes ,I'd say there is 150-200 hours worth of stuff to do. THe quests are unlike anything that has been seen in this game yet.
Buy it or not, I don't care. However by not buying it you are just providing safe passage from hunting to jedi on your server.
Ho'mer
Message Edited by Opie76 on 10-05-2005 09:34 AM
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