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Thread: Confirmed: AOE attacks working as intended on cloaked Jedi

JuddaFett
Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:38 pm
#1
Check the latest stratics, but it is confirmed that AOEs are working as intended with cloaked Jedi.


So for those Jedi calling me an exploiter for hitting them with Fan shot...



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ocili
Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:58 pm
#2
as they should, but don't try and convince a jedi of that.



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Everitt_Cage
Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:03 pm
#3

Thats correct. Why? First consider what the Devs said regarding the ranger revamp. They said cloak is a MIND TRICK, so that means that while the Ranger himself cant detect a cloaked Jedi, a Jedi CANNOT mind trick his gear, so hismotion detector will be able to detect cloaked Jedi. Now, that said, the Jedi isnt not immaterial when cloaked, only "invisible", so a weapon that does an area affect will hit him. He can mind trick the person to not see him, but he cant mind trick the weapon to not hit him if the person firing sprays the areaaround him withblaster bolts.

Message Edited by Everitt_Cage on 09-22-2005 07:09 PM

Maxil
Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:09 pm
#4
oh I don't have a problem with area shots hitting me, it's the dueling in front of me that irks Of course, again, it falls into the category of how smart the jedi is, as he should just move away.. think too many of my kind honestly do believe it as the "get away free card", when it's not, as it's not that difficult to counter



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-robaroo-
Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:12 pm
#5
I dont get how the AOE works. Yesterday i had a cloaked mark at the back of coronet SP who was obviously AFK cloaked. I could see exactly where she was but couldnt do too much about it. I called in a guildie to stand behind the mark then duelled him using fan shot thinking i could break the cloak. This didnt work. We must have tried all angles for about 10mins before she finally showed up whining exploit for trying to uncloak her. She had to cloak and logout after realising fighting a cm BH isnt as easy as predicted hehe However how do you manage to break cloak with AOE?? It was impossible for me



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Maxil
Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:17 pm
#6
you can't break it with AOE, you can try to do damage or even a knockdown. If they are AFK, and not running a heal macro, (especially if they are channeling as well) you will get them incapped eventually. If you can knock them down, if they use knockdown recovery, that breaks cloak.. But if they wait for the timer and just use /stand it won't.



Maxil





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moox99
Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:18 pm
#7

yes working as intended but since you dont know the jedi is really there (mind trick) why would you be randomly shooting. Just sounds like another exploiter trying to justify his tactics. Yes robaroo you do love to try this one but only prob is even using you exploits you still cant win!!



15min afk robaroo trying to break my cloak and he still couldnt do it.



Rosobado


-robaroo-
Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:21 pm
#8





moox99 wrote:

yes working as intended but since you dont know the jedi is really there (mind trick) why would you be randomly shooting. Just sounds like another exploiter trying to justify his tactics. Yes robaroo you do love to try this one but only prob is even using you exploits you still cant win!!



15min afk robaroo trying to break my cloak and he still couldnt do it.



Rosobado






LOL talking about my mark her she is.


I think i did win in the end...considering you tried to kill me 2 times then realised you were in a losing battle...had to cloak and run and log out lol Whos the real winner? Iwas able to keepplayin



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Maxil
Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:24 pm
#9
actually, they do know, cause the droid reports the position, and you can't trick the droid. Eventually this is gonna bite you in the ass though, especially with the coming nurfs to cloak



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-robaroo-
Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:31 pm
#10
Yes theresthe droids and jedi silly enough to run aura and infusion macro´s, so its not too hard to see where the mark is lol



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Opie76
Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:32 pm
#11
17:37] *Nerfed_Jedi* Will cloaked jedi be untargettable, un-followable, totally unattackable(including AOE)?

[17:38] We're working on fixing all issues that would allow hidden people to be detected/targeted outside of the intended game mechanics. Currently, AOE attacks will affect all players in the area, as a weapon has no concept of what is visible and what is not.



Sorry, but you mis understood what he was saying. He was saying currently this is how the AOE works. However they are working on rectifying the situation and making it so AOE dmg will not break cloak.


ALso where do you see in this response a statement saying "Working as intended" ?


Message Edited by Opie76 on 09-22-2005 04:33 PM

DekkoFett
Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:40 pm
#12
This one sounded like common sense to me. And as a few of my guildies claimed, it was justice for those with Smuggler/Commando cuz we were able to area concussion the cloakers and stop them from healing while cloaked.


Cloak is a jedi mind trick that makes your toon not think they are there. They ARE still there though, you just can't target them personally and shoot at them. If they are in the area where the cone is shot then they WILL get hit. It's a mind trick, not invincibility. You may be invisible, but you still take up space.



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JuddaFett
Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:43 pm
#13




Opie76 wrote:

17:37] *Nerfed_Jedi* Will cloaked jedi be untargettable, un-followable, totally unattackable(including AOE)?

[17:38] We're working on fixing all issues that would allow hidden people to be detected/targeted outside of the intended game mechanics. Currently, AOE attacks will affect all players in the area, as a weapon has no concept of what is visible and what is not.



Sorry, but you mis understood what he was saying. He was saying currently this is how the AOE works. However they are working on rectifying the situation and making it so AOE dmg will not break cloak.


ALso where do you see in this response a statement saying "Working as intended" ?



Message Edited by Opie76 on 09-22-2005 04:33 PM



AOE damage doesnt presently break cloak...



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