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Thread: Same Faction Hunting is Now Required if you want to complete your mission
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Phaylen
Mon Aug 29, 2005 5:46 am
#1
Today was the last straw. This Faction Base Exploit has gotten so out of hand thatroughly 1 in4Jedi I hunt use it. I'm even seeingJedi grinding near faction bases now. Patch 20 was supposed to restrict entrance into all buildings when a Jedi had a bh tef. This is not the case with faction bases however.The Jedi is able to talk to the faction npc WHILE FIGHTING, wait the 5 mins then enter the base while holding the bh tef and taking shots. Pursuit into the base is impossible as its guarded by lvl 82 npcs as well as turrets. The idea of having to raise an entire army to pursue one Jedi into a base when its not even a faction fight is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. The worst part is the CSR'swill only remove the jedi about 50% of the time.
My fight with the RebJedi K'won was funto say the least asI was unable to use some of my healing enhancers because of the lag on Lok, thus increasing the challenge. However, the fun ended when the exploiting began. His force almost gone he spoke with the recruiter while I was shooting him, thenfr around the base waiting forthe ability to enter it.I warned himnotuse thebug to his advantage, but he did it anyway. I have screenshots of this, though I am new to imagedump andit told me that the file is to big. (anyone know how to make it smaller?) Anyway, I moved out of line of sight and went to chat right away. The CSR would not come in game and informedme to bug it and open a ticket with the Jedi's name. (It seems whenever I get a womanCSR they will not remove the Jedi, butthe guy CSR's almost alwayswill. Guess the guysare a bit more brutallol) After arguingwith the CSR, I gave up and got back in game.K'won of coursewas regening force, in preparation for round two. He said "I'll be right out." I told him "You'll just run back inside." He then said "Nope."So I hung around as he had told me he would fight and not use the exploit again.He then came out of the base and informed me "I'll kill you now." (all conversations posted here are screenshotted)So starting up again, with him completly ready this time, we began. After another interesting fight,he was out of force again andretreated to the base a second time. At this point I lostit, pulled my bike and left.
This bug encourages same faction hunting. Also, what if the bh is neutral? How stupid is it that a neutral bh canNEVER finish a mission vs a Jedi thatuses this bugto their advantage?
Having to resort to same faction hunting makes me sick. I understand that my ability to PvP with otherImperials will probably be reduced to nothing.However,if its the only way toensurea bh fight has an ending, (EtherMe orthe Jedi lays dead, or the Jediescapeswithout using an exploit) then I guess that's what needs to be done. Hopefully thisbug will be fixedin a future patch soon, at which pointI will revert back to hunting Rebs.
Lokanai
Mon Aug 29, 2005 5:57 am
#2
I think we should be able to enter any building and chase after them if they are at home we should have a Kick Door in option. I mean What bounty hunter would get to a locked door and say Well i know my mark is inside but the door is locked and i don't want to make a mess... LOL.. If he runs into a Reb. Base.. can't you chase him in? I know you will get about 20 rebals on you but IMO they should be aloud to run and hide in a faction base. I mean from an RP angle what would a jedi do if he was close to a rebal base..
pistolfreak
Mon Aug 29, 2005 6:05 am
#3
Phaylen wrote:
Today was the last straw. This Faction Base Exploit has gotten so out of hand thatroughly 1 in4Jedi I hunt use it. I'm even seeingJedi grinding near faction bases now. Patch 20 was supposed to restrict entrance into all buildings when a Jedi had a bh tef. This is not the case with faction bases however.The Jedi is able to talk to the faction npc WHILE FIGHTING, wait the 5 mins then enter the base while holding the bh tef and taking shots. Pursuit into the base is impossible as its guarded by lvl 82 npcs as well as turrets. The idea of having to raise an entire army to pursue one Jedi into a base when its not even a faction fight is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. The worst part is the CSR'swill only remove the jedi about 50% of the time.
My fight with the RebJedi K'won was funto say the least asI was unable to use some of my healing enhancers because of the lag on Lok, thus increasing the challenge. However, the fun ended when the exploiting began. His force almost gone he spoke with the recruiter while I was shooting him, thenfr around the base waiting forthe ability to enter it.I warned himnotuse thebug to his advantage, but he did it anyway. I have screenshots of this, though I am new to imagedump andit told me that the file is to big. (anyone know how to make it smaller?) Anyway, I moved out of line of sight and went to chat right away. The CSR would not come in game and informedme to bug it and open a ticket with the Jedi's name. (It seems whenever I get a womanCSR they will not remove the Jedi, butthe guy CSR's almost alwayswill. Guess the guysare a bit more brutallol) After arguingwith the CSR, I gave up and got back in game.K'won of coursewas regening force, in preparation for round two. He said "I'll be right out." I told him "You'll just run back inside." He then said "Nope."So I hung around as he had told me he would fight and not use the exploit again.He then came out of the base and informed me "I'll kill you now." (all conversations posted here are screenshotted)So starting up again, with him completly ready this time, we began. After another interesting fight,he was out of force again andretreated to the base a second time. At this point I lostit, pulled my bike and left.
This bug encourages same faction hunting. Also, what if the bh is neutral? How stupid is it that a neutral bh canNEVER finish a mission vs a Jedi thatuses this bugto their advantage?
Having to resort to same faction hunting makes me sick. I understand that my ability to PvP with otherImperials will probably be reduced to nothing.However,if its the only way toensurea bh fight has an ending, (EtherMe orthe Jedi lays dead, or the Jediescapeswithout using an exploit) then I guess that's what needs to be done. Hopefully thisbug will be fixedin a future patch soon, at which pointI will revert back to hunting Rebs.
so true, I went neutral so that I could hunt both faction without receiving hate tells like ''YOU HUNT SAME FACTION'' messages. And lately most of the jedi I fight are using that Faction Base Exploit. At at point that one pre cu full temlate that I fought for 20 minutes ran into a base because I ran him out of force. So what does he do ? he calls in a doc, that rebuffs him and when hes full force, buffed and loaded on foods , he sends me tell '' COME ON FIGHT ME, YOUR SCARED '' ? lol Ok , that bug needs to be fixed quickly. I mean non finished template,I would agree if they ran and maybe try to hide in a base cause theyre scared like crazy about loosing xp, they might not think on the moment that is it an exploit, but full template that knows exactly that they are not suppose to use that exploit and do it anyway, makes me sick. Why not fight to the death when you a full template huh ? Nothing too loose remember.
Natania
Mon Aug 29, 2005 6:12 am
#5
The Jedi already gets an automatic tef when you attack them even if the Jedi does not attack back. What more do you want? If the Jedi chooses not to fight which is their option they need somewhere to go to escape. Or maybe now the tef should perma root them so they cant go anywhere and you can definitely get your kill. I just dont understand all the arguments if they get away go after someone else who wants to fight. Pretty simple!!!
Natania
WiseBobo
Mon Aug 29, 2005 6:16 am
#6
Phaylen, for some the reason the compression of the screenshots in SWG is way off; to reduce the file size of whatever screenshots you wish to post, simply open them up in MS Paint and save them, no editing required. The quality of the image will be exactly the same.
GlargTheKelfn
Mon Aug 29, 2005 6:29 am
#7
as i've seen the smart bh post before:
go neutral, keep 200 fp on both sides. when someone goes in a sf base, join that side, and go in.
bad part (for the bh) you have to fight in close quarters inside.
stop crying about it, or hunt npc's if jedi are too challenging for you
go neutral, keep 200 fp on both sides. when someone goes in a sf base, join that side, and go in.
bad part (for the bh) you have to fight in close quarters inside.
stop crying about it, or hunt npc's if jedi are too challenging for you
Virtuell
Mon Aug 29, 2005 6:29 am
#8
Still loses XP, whichis a good reason. Better to run and live and not loosing XP, than fight to the death with an uncertain outcome of winning or not.
pistolfreak wrote:
Why not fight to the death when you a full template huh ? Nothing too loose remember.
pistolfreak
Mon Aug 29, 2005 7:05 am
#9
Yeah looses XP, so what ? full template, dont need xp no more.
Virtuell wrote:
Still loses XP, whichis a good reason. Better to run and live and not loosing XP, than fight to the death with an uncertain outcome of winning or not.
pistolfreak wrote:
Why not fight to the death when you a full template huh ? Nothing too loose remember.
LxKane
Mon Aug 29, 2005 7:20 am
#10
Natania wrote:
The Jedi already gets an automatic tef when you attack them even if the Jedi does not attack back. What more do you want? If the Jedi chooses not to fight which is their option they need somewhere to go to escape. Or maybe now the tef should perma root them so they cant go anywhere and you can definitely get your kill. I just dont understand all the arguments if they get away go after someone else who wants to fight. Pretty simple!!!
Natania
I don't know maybe I'm miss reading the first post. I says the Jedi ran into the base WHILE tef. Jedi can hide in houses and bases all they want but that doesn't mean they should be able to do it WHILE they are tef.
Eskie
Mon Aug 29, 2005 7:20 am
#11
pistolfreak wrote:
Yeah looses XP, so what ? full template, dont need xp no more.
Virtuell wrote:
Still loses XP, which is a good reason. Better to run and live and not loosing XP, than fight to the death with an uncertain outcome of winning or not.
pistolfreak wrote:
Why not fight to the death when you a full template huh ? Nothing too loose remember.
Why not? I bet some BHs change their templates from time to time, also.
Whacked
Mon Aug 29, 2005 7:20 am
#12
Natania wrote:The Jedi already gets an automatic tef when you attack them even if the Jedi does not attack back. What more do you want? If the Jedi chooses not to fight which is their option they need somewhere to go to escape. Or maybe now the tef should perma root them so they cant go anywhere and you can definitely get your kill. I just dont understand all the arguments if they get away go after someone else who wants to fight. Pretty simple!!!Natania
QFE
Phaylen
Mon Aug 29, 2005 7:23 am
#13
Natania wrote:
The Jedi already gets an automatic tef when you attack them even if the Jedi does not attack back. What more do you want? If the Jedi chooses not to fight which is their option they need somewhere to go to escape. Or maybe now the tef should perma root them so they cant go anywhere and you can definitely get your kill. I just dont understand all the arguments if they get away go after someone else who wants to fight. Pretty simple!!!
Natania
The automatic tef that you speak of is supposed to restrict them from entering all buildings. This bug allows Jedi to enter faction bases when they should not be able to. Also, there is a secondary bug that allows to them to speak to the recruiter while I am shooting them! You are not supposed to be able to talk to an NPC while in combat.
Perhaps you dont understand what happened. Almost every Jedi that I attack fights back. The fight is usually long (if they are full template) After their force is almost gone they run for it. Everyone wants to fight, but nobody wants to die, so they use the bug to their advantage.
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