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Thread: Questions about the Jedi Loop hacks/exploits, PLEASE tell me when they are supposed to be fixed!

Sabrpaw
Wed Sep 14, 2005 8:05 am
#1

Ello all, i played from release to pub9 and quit, then came back 2 weeks and am trying out BH. I love it btw. My spec is MBH/MR 4000 CM. I have a 1313 dmg t21, 1300 dmg Nullifier X, 1246 dmg assault Bowcaster(yes im a wookiee), have 1200+ dmg retaliation(all of these are with dmg pups). in a duel, with any of my non-jedi friends, and my ONE RL friend who is a jedi, its no contest, i pull those weps out and its game over.


Heres my question, when i duel my friend who has a fully temped jedi, i get KDd, but i dont get KDd within the 30 second KD immunity timer. So far ive fought 2 jedi, 1 imp and 1 reb, where both fights left me with alot of questions.


How is it possible for a jedi to KD me 2 or 3 times within the 30 second KD immunity timer?

Doesnt root have a 30 second timer as well? And doesnt root break with dmg like stasis does?

One fight i was in, i started from max range(65 meters), with my 1313 dmg t21, did like 254 dmg on first shot after resists, i stood immediately and tried to run keeping distance to kite, i got rooted(heres where it seems fishy to me) and couldnt DO anything, i couldnt undershot to KD him to keep him off, i couldnt heal, (no it wasnt stasis). He did dmg to me and i was still rooted(is why i wanna know if you take dmg while rooted, do you stay rooted?).


Are there KD spam exploits/hacks out there that totally ignore the immunity timer now?


Saw a rebel jedi dueling a tkm on my server (sunrunner), the jedis' name is Yrean, he KDd the TKM 5 times in a matter of 2 minutes...at one point KDing him twice in immediate succession (this was when the TKM looked like he might have the upper hand).


My friend got a jedi mark, opened with conceal shot, started running to keep distance to kite, BAM...rooted, KDd, then (get this), KDd WHILE HE WAS KDd. He got to get up and run maybe once.


Are these hacks/exploits? or working as intended macro loops?

Is there any visible way you can tell when someone is using these?(to just avoid them)

Is there ANYWAY to counter(in an honest way) these exploiters/hackers? Or do i need to just avoid these jedi.

What are other exploits/hacks are there with these macros?



Im in NO WAY asking how to make them or use them...im wondering about thier existence. Of they do trully exist, because ive seen some really shady stuff these past few days, used by Jedi(im sure there are non-jedi proff exploits as well), that just made me go, "ok , theres no possible way in hell, that they should have been able to do that HONESTLY"



Thanks in advance


Sabrpaw-Sunrunner

dalessit
Wed Sep 14, 2005 8:16 am
#2

I didn't know there was a KD immunity timer on Players.


Jedi knock me down left and right when I fight.


Root doesn't break with damage but you should still be able to fight back.


Mez/Stasis/Paralyze you can't do anything but damage will break it.


Not sure how you could be rooted but not able to fight back.






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Sabrpaw
Wed Sep 14, 2005 8:35 am
#3

Yes, there are immunity timers to KD....even on mobs/npcs. Try it for yourself, duel a friend and try to spam your KD shot, or try and spam KD shots on mobs/nps, you will get a message saying you failed to KD your target.




Sabrpaw-Sunrunner


pagoa
Wed Sep 14, 2005 8:55 am
#4

yes, they are cheating. there is a way to buypass all cooldown timers, and it's a huge problem. i'm not sure how the kd thing is working, haven't quite figured that one out but it may be a macro as i don't use them. i'm not sure what happened with the root, but i suspect your toolbar locked up. are you using enhancers at all? bacta toss enhancers are bugged, they work but they will lock up and it's caused by button mashing during a fight. also they lock up if you heal as you are being kd. also there is a kd bug that prevents you from getting up. the combat is not working as intended at all. some know about it and some don't. hope that helps...
Sabrpaw
Wed Sep 14, 2005 9:45 am
#5

Ya well its BS. These people are making names for themselves as "good" pvpers, using cheats. I daresay if they didnt know how to use them, they wouldnt be as good. If they actually had to press the buttons on the hotbars, they wouldnt be as good. Its aggrevating to say the least.



So, there is no way to counter these things in an honest way? Im supposed to just drop the BH mission i have on them cause i KNOW they cheat? This is really aggrevating,


Guess ill just have to drop the BH mission if i see that its at least 3 of the jedi i have fought.



If any other jedi i fight on my server do these same things, im just gonna /sit for them(since i gather thats what they want from them using these cheats), and them /report them for cheating, and /bug report what they did. Looks like thats all we can do atm.




Sabrpaw-Sunrunner
Klinsek
Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:04 am
#6

There is so much bug exploiting going on as of late. The majority of Jedi on my server are doing it so I don't even bother huting PC's anymore.

Just another thing that is making the game painfully boring as of late.

You would THINK that with so many knowing how to sploit the bugs now that SOE would actually try to fix them quicker. Then I remember who we are talking about.




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yass
Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:49 am
#7

me > yrean , and yes i know what ur talking about i get kd rooted and crap well outside of the 32m range as well as being kd several times , not to mention being hit amazingly fast while my mark is on thyroid rupture? skill maybe , exploits possibly , i just go out and grab a new mission , no point in getting mad at something that it isnt going to be solved



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Sabrpaw
Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:57 pm
#8


Hey Ildarha, im new to the BH prof. Maybe sometime in the near future we can talk in /tell, maybe you can help with strategies/tactics to overcome or neutralize this BS cheating? Your a highly regarded BH on our server from what i can read, maybe some insight from you would me with defeating some these cheating no-skill losers.


PS. Make no mistake, relying on exploits/cheats to win, or change the tide of battle is certainly lacking in skill.



Sabrpaw-Sunrunner

TheGreatFreyr
Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:01 pm
#9

i dont really get this "kd timer" yall are talkin about, i've kded people and even npcs 2x in 30seconds before. heck even got 2 in a row on 1 bh (kinda ticked him off).



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Sabrpaw
Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:13 pm
#10

Your either A. Lying, and trying to play dumb. or B. Need to learn the game mechanics a little more bud. Im not trying to be flamatory here, and i dont mean this in any flamatory way but man cmon, how long have you been playing?



Sabrpaw-Sunrunner


GrimzKeeper
Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:16 pm
#11

I have been kd'd several time in under 30 secs by BH's as well so it is not ONLY Jedi that exploit. I have also kd'd several others several times in under 30 secs on my BH. Lag does come into play as when you press the action and it registers. We are not on 1:1 time with the servers. Could it be an exploit, who knows for sure. I dont think so but labeling a group "exploiters" when there is no proof is a bit harsh. Check your combat logs and it should be stamped when the KD's occur.




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alpinestreams
Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:25 pm
#12

2 points ... time stamp the combat log and come back to us with specific details ... name names etc ... and secondly ... someone mentioned 5 times kd in 2 mins ... now oddly enough that is actually possible ... although anyone who thought the 21st century began on the 1st of January 2000 might not quite get it




Chewen' the Cloaked Defender


Sabrpaw
Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:34 pm
#13

I was waiting for a response like this. First off, i ASKED if there were. Read the first part of my post. I asked if there wereknown exploits/hacks. There is in fact, from what ive read today, several different type of exploits involving loop macros, with several references to the jedi root/kd/root exploit. Also, i could tell from your selective reading skills that you totally ignored the fact that i acknowledged that there are exploits that BHs use, specifically the crit shot exploit ive heard about. Your the first time ive heard about BHs doing the KD spamming. I personally dont see how i can do it(im a BH), nor care to learn.


Ive have seen literally a MTK be KDd 2 times in a row, by a jedi, i myself have had this happen to me. There has only been one time in the fights ive had with Jedi, that the jedi didnt do anything questionable. The reason why it sounds like im making a blanket statement here is because mainly of your selective reading, and secondly because this is the BH Forums, where OMG.....we hunt Jedi, or at least some of us do.



Sabrpaw-Sunrunner


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